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Chainsaw_Charlie
08-04-2006, 07:35 AM
an auction of a user that had been suspended from Ebay?
Darth Sensei
08-04-2006, 08:04 AM
I'd pass.
jajaja
08-04-2006, 08:04 AM
Depends, how many feedback?
I recently won a GBA game from a guy with 0 feedback and he got suspended. Seller was from France. I sent mail, asked why, he said something about debit account. The english was the greatest, but the way i understood it was that he didnt pay the fees. I sent another mail days ago, no reply. I will most likely pay if he gets his account back.
Also recently, i won a NES bundle from a guy in Germany. He had ~40 in feedback when his account got suspended. I payed, knowing that his account was suspended. 2 weeks later i recived everything :) Its a gamble.
Chainsaw_Charlie
08-04-2006, 08:07 AM
his feedback is 2945 but he had 30+ negs in the last 6 months
Probably depends on whether you really want the item or not...
Chainsaw_Charlie
08-04-2006, 08:28 AM
it was a grab bag type deal
jajaja
08-04-2006, 08:48 AM
If these negatives is because people havnt recived the stuff i wouldnt pay.
Chainsaw_Charlie
08-04-2006, 08:52 AM
The majority of the negs are people pissed that they didnt get what was listed but that's the risk you take with grab bag auctions
50TBRD
08-04-2006, 08:53 AM
Listen to your gut, man. If I listened to my gut, I'd have not been in quite so many compromising situations. That'll help you out in the future. This is a situation with no certainty, you should pass. You just might not get what you paid for.
In the future you should also pay very close attention to feedback. It tells you a lot. A long absence from selling, screwing people recently, being hit and miss, taking long to ship, or not having any feedback are all situations to avoid. They could mean bum sellers.
8bitnes
08-04-2006, 02:30 PM
No way ... he's NARU for a reason, which is likely related to some form of fraud.
ryborg
08-04-2006, 08:09 PM
The majority of the negs are people pissed that they didnt get what was listed but that's the risk you take with grab bag auctions
Many "grab bag" auctions are complete frauds. All it takes is a seller with relatively high feedback and a dozen shill accounts to leave frequent fake feedback saying they got an AMAZING find. I've never heard of anyone actually getting more than their money's worth out of them.
But to answer your question, if it was an item you really wanted and couldn't get elsewhere for a similar price, I'd complete the transaction and make sure to use PP or a similar credit card service. Either the seller will complete the transaction as usual, or he will simply ignore you and your payment, in which case you chargeback.
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unwinddesign
08-05-2006, 02:54 AM
No way ... he's NARU for a reason, which is likely related to some form of fraud.
Or it could be that eBay suspends and dicks over some of their best sellers.
A lot of the NARUs you see are because people are frauds, or people didn't pay for stuff they won. But some of them aren't. Honest people get dicked by eBay, and it's a shame too, because eBay doesn't get enough of the dishonest ones to make up for it.
That being said, you're not covered by eBay protection (whatever that's worth) if you pay for the auction. So it's your call. He could be back within a couple of weeks anyway, so you may just want to wait it out and see.
50TBRD
08-05-2006, 07:45 AM
Grab Bag Auctions are a ploy to get more money for items that would not fetch much on they're own. You never get the one that you want even if the seller is putting the games that you want in the grab bags.
I'd say that you lucked out, take it as a blessing and come away a little wiser.
8bitnes
08-05-2006, 02:47 PM
No way ... he's NARU for a reason, which is likely related to some form of fraud.
Or it could be that eBay suspends and dicks over some of their best sellers.
A lot of the NARUs you see are because people are frauds, or people didn't pay for stuff they won. But some of them aren't. Honest people get dicked by eBay, and it's a shame too, because eBay doesn't get enough of the dishonest ones to make up for it.
That being said, you're not covered by eBay protection (whatever that's worth) if you pay for the auction. So it's your call. He could be back within a couple of weeks anyway, so you may just want to wait it out and see.
The only reason I can think that a "good" seller gets NARU is for failing to pay seller fees which can happen when a credit card is reissued after passing expiration date and the seller simply forgetting to update. If you have more examples, please share them with us.
On the other hand, I've seen numberous sellers that fail to ship or have feedback below 95% with over 1000 ratings and even those you use shill bidding tactics to bump their bids still keep their accounts. With that knowledge, I will stand by my belief that it takes one heck of an atrocity for a seller to get kicked off ebay. Probably a crime in many states even.
Promophile
08-05-2006, 08:37 PM
Its possible to get NARU'ed if you have a large quantity of sales and get unlucky enough to get a few bad and/or crazy buyers who file false complaints against you.
Felixthegamer
08-05-2006, 11:32 PM
I have had two users get NARU'ed while dealing with them. For various reasons I went ahead with the transations. I got both items. I feel I am lucky and I don't think I would risk it again. Take this for what it is worth
ryborg
08-06-2006, 03:09 PM
Its possible to get NARU'ed if you have a large quantity of sales and get unlucky enough to get a few bad and/or crazy buyers who file false complaints against you.
Define "complaints." Do you mean negative feedback, Item-Not-Recieved reports done via ebay or PP, Squaretrade disputes, etc?
All the negative feedback in the world won't get you suspended. If you don't respond at all to official ebay, PP, or Squaretrade complaints, you will eventually get suspended. As long as you're cooperating with the system and responding, you won't be NaRUed (unless of course you are receiving an obscene amount of these complaints).
In my experience, the sellers who get suspended for non-fraud reasons get suspended for violating other ebay policies, most commonly posting copyright infringing items, advertising that you sell items off ebay, stealing images/text, and other ebay-illegal item description violations.
If you're a good seller and post ebay-legal items and ship them out to the winners, I wouldn't worry about a suspension.
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