New SNES Rarity Guide

[Fleck]

I just thought that I would let this community know that I have been working on an SNES rarity and price list for the last year and a half, almost two years now. It is styled like the Etler and Antseezee guides for the NES. I mostly frequent GameFAQs and, if you frequent the site, you can always find me on the SNES board as Fleck.

This work began because a lot of people complained about the accuracy of this site. I found it to be off on a lot of things, as well. I want to post the link to my guide so that I can get feedback from this community on the rarity values as well as the price guide.

A few people helped me with the pricing part as it was a huge undertaking. Over the last year we searched for every game on Ebay to compile the pricing guide. The prices are listed as ranges that were the average of what these games have gone for over the last year. Anyway, here is the link to the guide.

http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/snes/file/snes_rarity_list.txt

Feel free to e-mail me with any suggestions or comments or post them here. I will be monitoring this thread to see what you all have to say. Thank you for your time.

[Kid Ice]

referer link error

I'm sure that will be very disappointing to all those complaining about the accuracy of this site. :roll:

[Fleck]

Why do you say that? What do you see that is inaccurate? I have no problem with you not liking it or thinking that another guide is better (I kind of expected that when I posted here), but can you at least be pro-active and suggest what might be off or what should change? I feel pretty confident about its accuracy, but I am all ears for suggestions.

[Jumpman Jr.]

Why do you say that? What do you see that is inaccurate? I have no problem with you not liking it or thinking that another guide is better (I kind of expected that when I posted here), but can you at least be pro-active and suggest what might be off or what should change? I feel pretty confident about its accuracy, but I am all ears for suggestions.

No, see, you don't seem to understand.
He was saying that the link you posted doesn't work. When you click on the link provided, it brings you to a page that says: "Referer Link Error"

Furthermore I think, if anything, Mr. Ice was making fun of our guide (the DP guide) because of how much people complain about the 'inaccuracies' of it.

That's just what I got from his post, though.

[Mayhem]

REFERER LINK ERROR

You can't directly link to any files on GameFAQs cos that's their policy (and server code). You can copy and paste the URL into your browser however.

[suppafly]

I just thought that I would let this community know that I have been working on an SNES rarity and price list for the last year and a half, almost two years now. It is styled like the Etler and Antseezee guides for the NES. I mostly frequent GameFAQs and, if you frequent the site, you can always find me on the SNES board as Fleck.

This work began because a lot of people complained about the accuracy of this site. I found it to be off on a lot of things, as well. I want to post the link to my guide so that I can get feedback from this community on the rarity values as well as the price guide.

A few people helped me with the pricing part as it was a huge undertaking. Over the last year we searched for every game on Ebay to compile the pricing guide. The prices are listed as ranges that were the average of what these games have gone for over the last year. Anyway, here is the link to the guide.

http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/snes/file/snes_rarity_list.txt

Feel free to e-mail me with any suggestions or comments or post them here. I will be monitoring this thread to see what you all have to say. Thank you for your time.

Theres a game I have in my collection three times and you say its a bootleg...well..it isnt...more info?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=011&item=320012420803&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1

[Fleck]

Try this link:

http://www.neoseeker.com/Games/Products/SNES/snes/faqs.html

Neoseeker just asked permission to host it and have put it up.

As far as the ISS games go, there has been arguments eitehr way on whether or not they were actually released in the States. I actually have a copy of the one that is being auctioned on Ebay right now and when I opened it up there were wires connecting chips which would indicate that it was a bootleg. The auction that is up right now is the first one in about two months and I am monitoring it as well. I have the serial numbers for the "US release" ISS games, but every one that has come out in the open was either released in Mexico, South America, or was a bootleg. Until I find sufficient evidence that the game was actually released here, I can't bring myself to change it. Would you be willing to post the serial numbers of your carts and open them up to check for authenticity? Or, I'll buy one from you and do it myself. E-mail me. I really would like to settle that little mystery. I feel like that is the only piece left in the puzzle to finish this guide up. Also, somebody claims to have a proto of Syvalion. I am waiting to get that verified.

[suppafly]

Try this link:

http://www.neoseeker.com/Games/Products/SNES/snes/faqs.html

Neoseeker just asked permission to host it and have put it up.

As far as the ISS games go, there has been arguments eitehr way on whether or not they were actually released in the States. I actually have a copy of the one that is being auctioned on Ebay right now and when I opened it up there were wires connecting chips which would indicate that it was a bootleg. The auction that is up right now is the first one in about two months and I am monitoring it as well. I have the serial numbers for the "US release" ISS games, but every one that has come out in the open was either released in Mexico, South America, or was a bootleg. Until I find sufficient evidence that the game was actually released here, I can't bring myself to change it. Would you be willing to post the serial numbers of your carts and open them up to check for authenticity? Or, I'll buy one from you and do it myself. E-mail me. I really would like to settle that little mystery. I feel like that is the only piece left in the puzzle to finish this guide up. Also, somebody claims to have a proto of Syvalion. I am waiting to get that verified.

Ive got 3 of them. All 100% genuine and original. Ive got a bootleg too. THe label is different and you can see that the overall quality of the cart and label is lower.

I have plenty of pics if u want

I would open them if i had the gamebit screwdriver....i dont have one yet. :D

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/6826/img0749a10009ua.th.jpg (http://img125.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0749a10009ua.jpg)

Find me in my msn messenger if youd like to talk about it
suppafly@hotmail.com

thanks

[Kid Ice]

Why do you say that? What do you see that is inaccurate?

After coming here and stating that the DP guide is inaccurate, I find it hilarious that you would ask these questions.

Whenever I have challenged anyone who has questioned the validity of the DP guide, it has come down to looking at random games and determining their value on ebay and in collecting circles. In every instance I have done this, the guide has been accurate. Sure, if you pinpoint one or two specific games you may find their rarity or value inaccurate, but that is one or two games out of thousands.

Also keep in mind DP is a "collector's guide"...not a guide to what you would pay for a game at a flea market (where the value would be much lower) or on ebay (where it would be higher).

Now that we have a working link to your guide, the first thing I can tell you that I like is that you have separate values for complete and loose.

Question: How are you determining rarity?

[50TBRD]

I just thought that I would let this community know that I have been working on an SNES rarity and price list for the last year and a half, almost two years now. It is styled like the Etler and Antseezee guides for the NES. I mostly frequent GameFAQs and, if you frequent the site, you can always find me on the SNES board as Fleck.

This work began because a lot of people complained about the accuracy of this site. I found it to be off on a lot of things, as well. I want to post the link to my guide so that I can get feedback from this community on the rarity values as well as the price guide.

A few people helped me with the pricing part as it was a huge undertaking. Over the last year we searched for every game on Ebay to compile the pricing guide. The prices are listed as ranges that were the average of what these games have gone for over the last year. Anyway, here is the link to the guide.

http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/snes/file/snes_rarity_list.txt

Feel free to e-mail me with any suggestions or comments or post them here. I will be monitoring this thread to see what you all have to say. Thank you for your time.

I really don't see in inaccuracies in the DP guide. I see a difference in what I can get game x for and what DP says that it can be gotten for. That is my main complaint about the guide and a lot of people confuse that with inaccurate data. I will say that I like the fact that you use a price range for value. I think that that is more conducive to the market of video games. Giving it a coursary look, I see that you are not offering anything that I personally need over the DP guide. I would perfer the DP as it tells a lot of info on each game including re-releases for a few games. I would however like to see more info added to the DP guide. The data that I am working on in the Variant Definative Guide Thread may help update the guide to make it more complete. I'm looking to give DP more data because it is the closest to being definative and complete. But I can only lead a horse to water.

Suppafly- I have heard a lot about Super Copa and ISSD and all from you. If I had so many questions about the validity of the items that I had in my possession, then I would put those questions to rest. Get a security bit and show everyone that you have the real deal. I want to know. I have heard that you can heat up a piece of plastic and form it around the screw in order to make your own bit, but please don't do it on these two titles. Don't get upset but you keep putting this out there and not proving that it is legit. All we have to see is one good one and it will be put to rest.

[D_N_G]

remember pricing in the dp guide is based on data from 2+ years ago.

the rarity ratings are however pretty much spot on

[suppafly]

I just thought that I would let this community know that I have been working on an SNES rarity and price list for the last year and a half, almost two years now. It is styled like the Etler and Antseezee guides for the NES. I mostly frequent GameFAQs and, if you frequent the site, you can always find me on the SNES board as Fleck.

This work began because a lot of people complained about the accuracy of this site. I found it to be off on a lot of things, as well. I want to post the link to my guide so that I can get feedback from this community on the rarity values as well as the price guide.

A few people helped me with the pricing part as it was a huge undertaking. Over the last year we searched for every game on Ebay to compile the pricing guide. The prices are listed as ranges that were the average of what these games have gone for over the last year. Anyway, here is the link to the guide.

http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/snes/file/snes_rarity_list.txt

Feel free to e-mail me with any suggestions or comments or post them here. I will be monitoring this thread to see what you all have to say. Thank you for your time.

I really don't see in inaccuracies in the DP guide. I see a difference in what I can get game x for and what DP says that it can be gotten for. That is my main complaint about the guide and a lot of people confuse that with inaccurate data. I will say that I like the fact that you use a price range for value. I think that that is more conducive to the market of video games. Giving it a coursary look, I see that you are not offering anything that I personally need over the DP guide. I would perfer the DP as it tells a lot of info on each game including re-releases for a few games. I would however like to see more info added to the DP guide. The data that I am working on in the Variant Definative Guide Thread may help update the guide to make it more complete. I'm looking to give DP more data because it is the closest to being definative and complete. But I can only lead a horse to water.

Suppafly- I have heard a lot about Super Copa and ISSD and all from you. If I had so many questions about the validity of the items that I had in my possession, then I would put those questions to rest. Get a security bit and show everyone that you have the real deal. I want to know. I have heard that you can heat up a piece of plastic and form it around the screw in order to make your own bit, but please don't do it on these two titles. Don't get upset but you keep putting this out there and not proving that it is legit. All we have to see is one good one and it will be put to rest.

Oh, theyre real! :D

I had a complete boxed copy. You dont know very well what youre talking a bout. Heres a small explanation:

Mexico is a place full of bootlegs. I can spot one from a mile away. ANd its much easier when you are actually touching the box, manual, game and carefully looking all around it.

These games are real. I have old issues of "CLUB NINTENDO" (Mexico´s official magazine) where they advertised and reviewed the game. THis game was immensely popular here (soccer is the national pasttime), and many many friends bought it back then and Ive been playing this game since 1995...:D

Someday I will get the gamebit. I need it for other porpuses (like opening genesis games to clean them). But i cant just get to spend 10 dollars on a screwdriver ....maybe in the near future :D

BTW I sold my complete ISSD to "videogames" for 167 dollars. I can ASSURE YOU he wouldve complained if i had sold him a bootleg, right?. He said that everything was fine.

[Fleck]

Why do you say that? What do you see that is inaccurate?

After coming here and stating that the DP guide is inaccurate, I find it hilarious that you would ask these questions.

Whenever I have challenged anyone who has questioned the validity of the DP guide, it has come down to looking at random games and determining their value on ebay and in collecting circles. In every instance I have done this, the guide has been accurate. Sure, if you pinpoint one or two specific games you may find their rarity or value inaccurate, but that is one or two games out of thousands.

Also keep in mind DP is a "collector's guide"...not a guide to what you would pay for a game at a flea market (where the value would be much lower) or on ebay (where it would be higher).

Now that we have a working link to your guide, the first thing I can tell you that I like is that you have separate values for complete and loose.

Question: How are you determining rarity?

There are several significant differences between the two guides, I think. As one example, and not to overload this thread with 100 different game rarity variances, most sports games on this site have a rarity value that is very low, but there are several that are actually very rare and show up very little on Ebay or in stores/markets. Most aren't worth much, but the rarity is still high.

As far as how the rarity values were determined, I used a lot of the same theories that Antseezee did when he updated Etler's list for the NES. I searched for every game on Ebay in titles and descriptions (in case it shows up in a lot), completed auctions, and in Ebay stores. I took a statistical anaysis of the number of copies that were available at any given time. These numbers were gathered for all games three times over the course of about a year and a half. Those numbers were used as a rough draft at a first rating. Then, I searched other on-line stores and auction sites for availability. And, I used some of my own experiences with collecting over the last five years in considering the rating of a game as well. I put together a formula that factored all this in and then went through each one and checked it against what I had already found on-line. I got a pretty good cross-reference, IMO of the availability of all of these games.

I was also given some release numbers for about half of the games, but the person who gave them to me kept saying that they couldn't tell me how they got them. Shady, I think. So I really didn't factor those in. The only time I referenced them was if a game was right on the cusp compared to another and I looked to see if the release numbers could give it a push over the edge either way. Most times, though, this didn't happen.

[dj_spryte]

I think you can get the donkey kong competition cartridge complete, it comes with the green box

[badinsults]

ISSD and Super Copa are certainly not bootlegs, and had offical releases, although not in the United States. I would still consider them as part of the list though, as they are labeled as a generic -USA release. As a comparison, I'm sure the GBA people would include Mr Pants in the US release list, even though it was only released in Canada.

[vintagegamecrazy]

I would definitely love to see those added to the US releases, they just fit better there. We have games in the Colecovision section that are released in canada only and they are in the us section.

[Fleck]

Well, try as I might, I can't find a reference for Super Copa on Ebay, Yahoo Auctions, or any store page. Does anyone have an idea of a price range for cart only and complete?

Also, if ISSD was released in Mexico, was ISS also? I have seen a complete copy of it as well on-line.

[50TBRD]

There's one on Ebay Brazil of Super Copa. And one ISSD there too. There is one other cart that I've heard about but never seen in person and is iffy and that's a Ronaldinho cart but the only one that's on Ebay Brazil is a bootleg and I'm not sure if I ever heard anyone say that there is an official cart. There are none of any of these carts on Ebay Mexico or Argentina at this time. As far as I know of Suppafly is the only one to have imported any of these as of recent and sold them on Ebay.

[badinsults]

http://snescentral.edgeemu.com/0/7/9/0791/SNS-75-USA.jpg

I think it would be difficult to get a good price on the games that were released south of the US. For Super Copa, the actual run of the game was quite high, but you would have to go to South America to find them. The price would be more from finding someone who has them and can speak English to sell them to you. For instance, I talked to someone from Brazil about ISSD, and he says that it is pretty common, but still sell for the equivalent of $20 because soccer is so popular, and that older systems are still very popular.

[suppafly]

My credit card debt is killing me.

Thus im forced to sell my only copy of this game.

THanks for your help! please bid!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320020243894

[scott21]

this guide is perfect fleck. i planned on going to see my gf (4 hrs away :() either this weekend on next and she has a huge used game/book/cd store with stacks and stacks of old nes/snes for a few bucks a games. its way out in a small town so i hope it hasnt been picked over by other collects. sadly i dont collect or know much about the values/rarity of those systems but this is just what i was looking for..

now its treasure hunting i go!

[JerseyDevil65]

As far as how the rarity values were determined, I used a lot of the same theories that Antseezee did when he updated Etler's list for the NES. I searched for every game on Ebay in titles and descriptions (in case it shows up in a lot), completed auctions, and in Ebay stores. I took a statistical anaysis of the number of copies that were available at any given time. These numbers were gathered for all games three times over the course of about a year and a half.

Any rarity guide that uses E-Bay at all is going to be seriously flawed.

1) Two games could have the same rarity level but 1 may pop up on E-Bay more often than the other because it may get a higher price. A seller may check to see what a game is worth on E-Bay and if it only sells for a buck or 2 they may decide to not list it.

2) How do you know if a game listed is the same game listed a few different times? This is especially relevant if you are monitoring E-Bay for a year and a half. The same copy could be sold multiple times in that year and a half.

That being said, I will use your guide because I use any resource that is available. Its always better to have more opinions of a games rarity.

[bangtango]

Why do you say that? What do you see that is inaccurate?

After coming here and stating that the DP guide is inaccurate, I find it hilarious that you would ask these questions.

Whenever I have challenged anyone who has questioned the validity of the DP guide, it has come down to looking at random games and determining their value on ebay and in collecting circles. In every instance I have done this, the guide has been accurate. Sure, if you pinpoint one or two specific games you may find their rarity or value inaccurate, but that is one or two games out of thousands.

Also keep in mind DP is a "collector's guide"...not a guide to what you would pay for a game at a flea market (where the value would be much lower) or on ebay (where it would be higher).

Now that we have a working link to your guide, the first thing I can tell you that I like is that you have separate values for complete and loose.

Question: How are you determining rarity?

There are several significant differences between the two guides, I think. As one example, and not to overload this thread with 100 different game rarity variances, most sports games on this site have a rarity value that is very low, but there are several that are actually very rare and show up very little on Ebay or in stores/markets. Most aren't worth much, but the rarity is still high.

As far as how the rarity values were determined, I used a lot of the same theories that Antseezee did when he updated Etler's list for the NES. I searched for every game on Ebay in titles and descriptions (in case it shows up in a lot), completed auctions, and in Ebay stores. I took a statistical anaysis of the number of copies that were available at any given time. These numbers were gathered for all games three times over the course of about a year and a half. Those numbers were used as a rough draft at a first rating. Then, I searched other on-line stores and auction sites for availability. And, I used some of my own experiences with collecting over the last five years in considering the rating of a game as well. I put together a formula that factored all this in and then went through each one and checked it against what I had already found on-line. I got a pretty good cross-reference, IMO of the availability of all of these games.

I was also given some release numbers for about half of the games, but the person who gave them to me kept saying that they couldn't tell me how they got them. Shady, I think. So I really didn't factor those in. The only time I referenced them was if a game was right on the cusp compared to another and I looked to see if the release numbers could give it a push over the edge either way. Most times, though, this didn't happen.

Not all games are bought and sold online. There are people buying, selling or hoarding games who have never even heard of this web site or GameFAQ's. Something has to be said for games being bought and sold offline.

With that said, you seem to have put together a fine effort. The more people getting or sharing data the better......