Who has a thing for 16 bit cd games?

[Richter Belmount]

Like I cant really pick up a plain 16 bit cartridge without wishing it was a cd game I always look around for the cd version on the turbo grafx cd or sega cd. After the turbo duo its been that way since >.> . Playing games like lords of thunder , double dragon cd , Ys book 1 and 2.

[LiquidPolicenaut]

I'm kinda like this too. I mean, I still like it even if its only cartridge, but for some games I think "what if..." and others Im glad it was released on cd. Some of my "what ifs" are:

Streets of Rage on Sega CD - If only for the tunes on cd..mmmmm

Castlevania on the Sega CD - I would say Bloodlines, but I think Konami could have done an even better Castlevania game (even on the genesis). With it being on CD, we'd have an awesome soundtrack and hopefully some great anime cutscenes.

Devils Crush on Turbo CD - Again, just for crystal clear CD audio

Other games Im glad were on CD are Snatcher, both Lunars (especially EB with all the voice and animation on it..and the music!), Lords of Thunder, Sonic CD, Keio Flying Squadron, Dracula X, Ys series, and a good amount more I cant recall right now.

Unlike most, I actually love my Sega (and Mega) CD and my trusty ol' Turbo CD :)

[Richter Belmount]

I would be up for homebrewing final fantasy 6 on turbo duo that would be bad ass remake the music for cd.
I like the sega cd also (wish i had sonic cd jp)

[Jorpho]

Hmm. The niftyness of redbook audio soundtracks is occluded by the dreadfulness of the multimedia dreck that got cranked out.

And load times, let's not forget about those.

[Blanka789]

I actually think I have more SegaCD games then Genesis games.

[NintenDk]

Who has a thing for 16 bit cd games?
Nice thread title, sure I'll go next

a thing for 16 bit cd games? What do you need specifically, I might have whatever it is you're looking for?:P

Just let me know which component, adapter, or what the name of the part is you need to get you game rig working and I'll see if I have an extra "thing" layin around here or will look into getting it for you. LOL hoooooooo :hmm: ok thats not that funny but If I had a Sega CD right now I 'd join the mischeif for sure.

[j_factor]

I, too, have a particular affinity for Turbo CD and Sega CD. Someday I want to get an Amiga CD32. CDi sucks, though.

[Anthony1]

I love Turbo CD, Super CD and Arcade CD games, which are all 8-bit CD games by the way, and I also love the F out of the Sega CD. You get that classic 8 bit/16 bit ish gameplay with the CD sound added on top. And with Sega CD, I'm actually one of the rare gents that can enjoy a good FMV game like Ground Zero Texas. So if you can also deal with FMV, then that adds a ton more Sega CD games as well.


The one thing I really wish could happen, would be to somehow get Mega CD games working on my Sega CD. I have a U.S. Sega CD that has a S-Video mod, and I would love to somehow get Mega CD games to work on my Sega CD, but it's just too damn complex. I guess I need to find a Mega CD unit and a MegaDrive. But what a damn hassle to have to get both of those things just to play some Mega CD's. There are definitely some shooters that never came to America that I would love to play, as well as the Japanese version of Sonic with much better music (supposedly). Also other games like Earnest Evans and stuff like that, that I would like to play the Mega CD version.


Gotta love the 8 bit and 16 bit CD games on console. I guess, it's pretty much just the Turbo/PC Engine and the Sega CD/Mega CD to contend with, when considering consoles. FM Towns Marty was 32bit, CD-I technically was 32bit, 3DO was 32bit, hmmm what about Neo-Geo CD? I guess you could consider Neo-Geo CD as a 16 bit cd system right? Or does the Neo have a different graphics chip compared to the AES? Jaguar was kinda 16-bit in my opinion, but I'm not sure I would consider the CD games to be 16-bit cd games.


Interesting. I guess I would just consider the NEC cd games, and the Sega cd games. Am I forgetting anything? (not counting any computer type devices)

[Jorpho]

The one thing I really wish could happen, would be to somehow get Mega CD games working on my Sega CD.

Surely it is a trivial matter to rip them, use that fancy region-switching utility, burn them, and play them?

...There we are, SCDconv.
http://www.eidolons-inn.net/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=4
Well, the compatibility list suggests that the Euro -> American conversion doesn't work very well, but the Japanese -> American list looks pretty good. At least it would be a trivial matter to swap audio tracks in the burning process, no?


CD-I technically was 32bit

The CD-I ran off a Motorola 68k and is thus surely 16-bit, especially if you're going to call the PC-Engine 8-bit. Or not?

[MarioMania]

Street Fighter II CE on PC Engine CD

[Anthony1]

Surely it is a trivial matter to rip them, use that fancy region-switching utility, burn them, and play them?

...There we are, SCDconv.
http://www.eidolons-inn.net/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=4
Well, the compatibility list suggests that the Euro -> American conversion doesn't work very well, but the Japanese -> American list looks pretty good.

[/quote]


It's not a trivial matter for me, I can barely use a program like Clone CD. I'm just not that good with doing stuff like that. I need to find somebody that is an expert on it, and see if they can help me out.

[blue lander]

Making the SegaCD multiregional isn't too difficult or expensive if you're handy with a soldering iron. But if CloneCD is too complicated, modding the SegaCD is out of the question.

[LazingBlazers]

Turbo Duo??? What the H-E-double-hockey-sticks is that??? LOL

[T2KFreeker]

I laugh these days when I look around at most of the gamers and they just don't get it. They look at the older games and think that they are a cake walk because they aren't the new deal. I really hope that Revolution and XBOX Arcade continues to put this to rest. The 16 bit games, especailly on the Sega CD and Turbo Grafx CD/Duo wer just awesome. Great classic stuff, the likes of which alot we will never see again in gaming. The CD era was awesome because everything was so experimental and we really got alot of new stuff that we wouldn't have gotten otherwise. 8-)

[Ascending Wordsmith]

At the time of their release, I had no 16-bit CD games. I couldn't afford a Turbo Duo or a Sega CD. In fact, the SNES and the Genesis were enough to satisfy me until the likes of Saturn and Playstation appeared.

http://mednafen.com/screenshots/pcecd/Gate%20Of%20Thunder%20(J)(SCD2)(Raph99)-0.png
Gate of Thunder

When I finally bought a Turbo Duo, long after NEC had stopped producing the unit, and picked up some titles along with it. I was like, "I can't believe I missed out on all this!" It was fun. Super Air Zonk, Gate of Thunder, and a few other SHMUPS were simply fun as hell! I even got into the import scene since the Duo could play exclusive Japanese titles. Ane-San and Hot Blooded High Soccer were the first titles I got from overseas.

http://213.251.175.157/./data/roms/pce/Jeux/Nekketsu%20Koukou%20Dodgeball%20Bu%20PC%20Soccer%2 0Hen/Nekketsu%20Koukou%20Dodgeball%20Bu%20PC%20Soccer%2 0Hen%20(J).png
Nekketsu Koukou Dodgeball Bu PC Soccer Hen (Hot Blooded High School Soccer)

I haven't gotten a Sega CD yet, but just the thought of playing Sonic CD alone is nearly enough motivation.

[Fighter17]

The 16-bit CD games was just interesting.

On one side you got the Turbo CD and many great shmup titles. Games like Gate of Thunder and Lords of Thunder is a reason why you should purchase a Duo or the Turbo CD attachment. Also don't forget the support Konami did for the Turbo CD like Dracula X, the good port of Gradius II, and of course Snatcher (which later was ported onto the Sega CD). While they were few or no FMV titles on the Turbo CD, they were plently of great titles that made the CD-ROM attachment a huge success in Japan.

Now you got the Sega CD, while they were plently of trash on the hardware (mostly FMV related), they were a few jems that people tollaly missed out on the Sega CD. Lets start by saying that Snatcher is a must on the Sega CD (no question about it). Then you have the four Working Designs games for the Sega CD (Lunar 1 + 2, Popful Mail, and Vay), which are all must buys. Then you have some of the unknown RPG type games like Dark Wizard (which I love so very much), Shining Force CD (great for the fan of the series), and Rise Of The Dragon (I know it's not a RPG, but meh to you).

Unlike the Turbo CD, the Sega CD has only a few shmups. Games like Android Assault, Robo Aleste, and Shilpheed are a must for the Sega CD. Also on the Sega CD was the games developed by Core (the same people who later created the Tomb Raider series). The UK-based developer had truly tapped in the Sega CD hardware to its limits. Games like AH-3 Thunderstrike (Thunderhawk elsewere), and Soul Star showed what the Sega CD really able to do.

While most of the FMV games on the Sega CD were crap, if you just buy the animated FMV games then you will be alright. If you like the Readysoft's FMV titles (Dragon Lair and other games from the same people) then you would enjoy them very much (I didn't like Dragon Lair at all). Wolf Team did a great thing by porting some of the best Laserdisc arcade games onto the Sega CD. Data East's Cobra Command (Thunder Storm FX in Japan), and Road Avenger (Road Blaster FX in Japan) are some of the best FMV game action you can ask for (both games personally are my favorite FMV games on the Sega CD). A great thing about both Data East games on the Sega CD was the audio was improved (both games had 10x better intro music than the orginal arcade music). Also Wolf Team ported both Taito's Time Girl and Ninja Hayate (the Sega CD port of Ninja Hayate was only release in the US as "Revenge of the Ninja.").

Then of course you got Sonic CD. Word of advice, GET THE JAPANESE VERSION. The soundtrack makes all the difference for me.

I think I've spoken enough.

[CosmicMonkey]

Yes, it certainly is interesting to see how CD Attachments affected Sega and NEC/Hudson differently.

I wouldn't have a PC Engine without a CD because there really are so many excellent CD games. But I had a hard time finding enough Mega CD games to warrant the purchase of a unit. Also, to get the best from a Mega CD you really need a multi-region unit. Japanese versions of Sonic and Final Fight are a must, plus USA versions of both Lunars, Popful Mail, Heart of the Alien and Flashback.

Makes you wonder what would have happened to Nintendo had the SNES CD been released? Personally, I don't think it would have suffered the same fate as the Mega CD. I reckon the system would have had many, many excellent RPGs. Aren't there some SNES RPGs that were meant for the CD and released on cart that seem to have missing or closed off areas?

[LiquidPolicenaut]

Ok, even though, I posted of my fondness for both cd systems (especially the Sega CD), I have read all of the posts and need to add a few more comments.

Pretty much all the good stuff had been said about the Turbo/PC-Engine CD/SCD games, so I will just stick with the Sega/Mega CD (of which Im more into anyway).

So many people say the system was a failure, but not to me. Some say there were a "few" gems, yet to me there were more than that. We have the obvious superstar standouts like Snatcher (of which to me is THE best conversion of the game. For once the US/EUR version had MORE content in it than the original did.), Lunar, and Lunar:EB. Others that definitely are good for the system are: Keio Flying Squadron, Silpheed, The Terminator (if mostly just for the music), Popful Mail, Lords of Thunder (I know many say the Turbo version is better, but at least the Sega CD got a conversion of it), Shining Force CD, Final Fight CD, Time Gal, Road Avenger (again, the US/EUR market got a special English sung version of the opening) are the main ones I can rattle off right now.

Sonic CD is great but I seperated it here because of the oft discussed "import soundtrack totally roxxx!". After so many years of hearing it, I finally bought the import version and you know what?? Its not that much better imho. The opening especially is horrid in the import version. There are still many great tracks, but it made me appreciate how not fully-crappy the American version is.

There are some games, while not great, had some redeeming merit. Some hate FMV games, but to some Night Trap is a classic. An actual decent FMV game to me is Dracula Unleashed. The video was a little less grainy than usual and now it was near full screen. Rise of the Dragon is an ok adventure..nowhere near Snatcher but still enjoyable. The Adventures of Batman and Robin - a game brought heavily down by horrid controls, but it had special animation created for the game which adds up to a nice little episode of the animated series...with very decent quality for ther Sega CD.

2 years ago, after purchasing my Wondermega, I discovered even more gems from the import side. Games like Urusei Yatsura, Yumimi Mix, Final Fight CD (yes, I listed it already but the import is uncensored), 3x3 Eyes, the average-but-still-ok Shadowrun and Nostalgia 1907 (one of the first Mega CD games but still decent).

Sorry to go on an extreme rant, but, as you can see, I do love my Sega/Mega CD and thats exactly what the topic is all about :)

[Richter Belmount]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMf5_S5pzBI
One of my fav intros not quite as good as the original ys book 1 and 2 but I love it .

this game is cool but do not buy it for 300 ever! ( i spent 100) for its 100 dollar cool not 300 dollar cool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTubjpAPwCE
dungeon explorer 2

I come across alot of people that seem to detest the turbo grafx but I respect there opinion , I just think they dont know what they missing when they are asking for me what I think is an amazing game.

[alexkidd2000]

I must be the only person on the planet that thinks the USA Sonic CD soundtrack kicks ass and is better then the JAP version.

[Anthony1]

I must be the only person on the planet that thinks the USA Sonic CD soundtrack kicks ass and is better then the JAP version.


I actually love the U.S. soundtrack too. Especially I think it's the second track, where it has like some ladies in the background singing.... ohh ohhh eee ohh......ohh ohh eee ohh, and the bass is rumbling, it's a damn good soundtrack, pretty amazing for it's time, but I've always heard people talk about the one in Japan being much better. Which if true, would be spectacular!

[Masked Avenger]

I think I would have prefered an enhanced Sonic 2 on Sega CD over the Sonic CD we got.

[Ed Oscuro]

I tend to like 16-bit CD-ROM games, though the Sega CD didn't have very many good ones (lousy port of Night Striker, for instance, though I like the port of The Ninja Warriors).

In other news: I was alt tabbing like a crazy man, and the topic title momentarily shocked me as all I saw was "Who has a thing for 16..."

[Masked Avenger]

I must be the only person on the planet that thinks the USA Sonic CD soundtrack kicks ass and is better then the JAP version.


I actually love the U.S. soundtrack too. Especially I think it's the second track, where it has like some ladies in the background singing.... ohh ohhh eee ohh......ohh ohh eee ohh, and the bass is rumbling, it's a damn good soundtrack, pretty amazing for it's time, but I've always heard people talk about the one in Japan being much better. Which if true, would be spectacular!

The soundtrack in the Japanese version is better, IMHO. The US version is still good, but what puts the Japanese one higher is that it sounds closer to the soundtracks of the Genny Sonics (though still a departure).

[bangtango]

Turbo Duo??? What the H-E-double-hockey-sticks is that??? LOL

Are you being serious or facetious? If you are serious, it is simply a system designed to play both the Turbografx game cards and the Turbo cd games. Really, a console meant to replace the Turbografx 16 game system and the original cd player. Some later cd games, I recall, were Duo only.

I am surprised someone (i.e. hardcore Sega 32X fans) hasn't come out of the woodwork to list the Jaguar CD in this thread "because the Jaguar was really 16-bit and not 64 bit." LOL

[Ed Oscuro]

I would be up for homebrewing final fantasy 6 on turbo duo that would be bad ass remake the music for cd.
I like the sega cd also (wish i had sonic cd jp)
Too bad fan remixes suck...unless you know of OST remixes?

[T2KFreeker]

At the time of their release, I had no 16-bit CD games. I couldn't afford a Turbo Duo or a Sega CD. In fact, the SNES and the Genesis were enough to satisfy me until the likes of Saturn and Playstation appeared.

http://mednafen.com/screenshots/pcecd/Gate%20Of%20Thunder%20(J)(SCD2)(Raph99)-0.png
Gate of Thunder

When I finally bought a Turbo Duo, long after NEC had stopped producing the unit, and picked up some titles along with it. I was like, "I can't believe I missed out on all this!" It was fun. Super Air Zonk, Gate of Thunder, and a few other SHMUPS were simply fun as hell! I even got into the import scene since the Duo could play exclusive Japanese titles. Ane-San and Hot Blooded High Soccer were the first titles I got from overseas.

http://213.251.175.157/./data/roms/pce/Jeux/Nekketsu%20Koukou%20Dodgeball%20Bu%20PC%20Soccer%2 0Hen/Nekketsu%20Koukou%20Dodgeball%20Bu%20PC%20Soccer%2 0Hen%20(J).png
Nekketsu Koukou Dodgeball Bu PC Soccer Hen (Hot Blooded High School Soccer)

I haven't gotten a Sega CD yet, but just the thought of playing Sonic CD alone is nearly enough motivation.

It's not until just reacently that fortune smiled upon me and granted me a Turbo Grafx CD unit. I also just got a Duo. The Turbo was always my favorite system because of truely unique games like Bonk and the Y's series. The Shmups on the system were always some of the best. Even before the CD released it had R-Type and Super Star Soldier, among other really awesome games.