Complete/ Near Complete Neo Geo AES or MVS collection???

[MagicMajenta]

I know vincewy falls under the AES category. I am pretty sure he's got a complete or near complete collection, but I'm pretty sure it's complete. I have both but nowhere near a complete collection especially since I don't buy games that I already own for one on the other one. Anyone else out there have a complete/near complete collection of either AES or MVS?

[pooch]

I know 8man and Shawn at NG.com have a near complete/complete sets of AES and this other guy there has a near complete MVS collection. Check www.neo-geo.com

[Nez]

What his face abdul of adul or something like that.

[MagicMajenta]

I know 8man and Shawn at NG.com have a near complete/complete sets of AES and this other guy there has a near complete MVS collection. Check www.neo-geo.com

Yeah I know about that site. I also post there, but was specifically asking here if maybe there are members here who don't go there but still collect AES or MVS.

[Kevincal]

I'm curious to know how much a complete AES collection would set one back $.... @_@

[pooch]

I made a rough estimate of $75000


I'm curious to know how much a complete AES collection would set one back $.... @_@

[pooch]

OIC.

I would be most curious to know if anyone on this forum has a original English AES copy of Kizuna Encounter or Ultimate 11.@_@



I know 8man and Shawn at NG.com have a near complete/complete sets of AES and this other guy there has a near complete MVS collection. Check www.neo-geo.com

Yeah I know about that site. I also post there, but was specifically asking here if maybe there are members here who don't go there but still collect AES or MVS.

[Darren870]

DreamTR has a near complete AES collection. I think he is missing certain games, and also like boxes for certain games. If I remember correctly he is missing the Metal Slug Box.

Im going for a complete MVS set, first cart only then when i get older and have more to spend complete kits. Not that I don't have some already though.

[pooch]

DreamTR has a near complete AES collection. I think he is missing certain games, and also like boxes for certain games. If I remember correctly he is missing the Metal Slug Box.

Im going for a complete MVS set, first cart only then when i get older and have more to spend complete kits. Not that I don't have some already though.

Do you really intend to go for complete sets for dreamcast, N64, playstation, Xbox, gamecube and whatnot? Do you know how much that will cost you? @_@

I want to go for complete sets for dreamcast, N64, and MVS too, but I figure that will already cost alot.

The only complete set I have is virtual boy.

[Darren870]

Well one day, hahah. I have a complete set of dreamcast already, just missing a manual and back insert to one game.

Right now im working on MVS and ps/saturn i suppose. Not really close to finishing any but come xmas I hope to finish another small one.

Yea its going to cost a lot of money, but so does everything these days. Its just about enjoying life and making yourself happy, without going in debt of course (LOL).

[Tron 2.0]

I'm halfway done on the mvs collecting.

Mind you not all kits some loose and some are kits.

Once i pick up what i want i'll be finsh.

[Kevincal]

I made a rough estimate of $75000


I'm curious to know how much a complete AES collection would set one back $.... @_@

I figured it would be something insane like that... I think I'd take a new 500 hp Corvette Z06 over that. 8-) Then again, It would be awesome to have a complete AES collection... :evil:

[CosmicMonkey]

I have what I consider to be the best 58 / 60ish games on the Neo in MVS format. There's no way I'd get the rest of the games as there's no point. Plus the amount I'd have to spend on Shockboxes and inserts would be obscene.

For those that are going for a complete MVS set: what about the homebrew titles? Are you gonna get Diggerman, V-Liner, Neo Bubble Pop or Jockey Grandprix?

It would also appear that the NG : Dev Team are finally considering an MVS release of Last Hope. Check out the FAQ (http://www.ngdevteam.com/lasthope_faq.htm), and register your interest for an MVS version.

[pooch]

I have what I consider to be the best 58 / 60ish games on the Neo in MVS format. There's no way I'd get the rest of the games as there's no point. Plus the amount I'd have to spend on Shockboxes and inserts would be obscene.

For those that are going for a complete MVS set: what about the homebrew titles? Are you gonna get Diggerman, V-Liner, Neo Bubble Pop or Jockey Grandprix?

It would also appear that the NG : Dev Team are finally considering an MVS release of Last Hope. Check out the FAQ (http://www.ngdevteam.com/lasthope_faq.htm), and register your interest for an MVS version.

This is exactly what I am looking for. I cannot find a list of homebrew MVS titles. I tried asking the question on NG.com but no replies to far. Do you have a complete list of homebrew titles? Any idea where I can buy them? Please help out. Thanks!!!!!

[CosmicMonkey]

For most Neo Geo related queries, check the Master List (http://neo-geo.com/snk/masterlist.htm) over at Neo-Geo.com.

There are only those 4 homebrew titles: Diggerman, V-Liner, Neo Bubble Pop and Jockey Grandprix. The unreleased Ghostlop did also receive an unofficial MVS release. Although they are also including Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. It's a hack, but much better done than most, from what I hear. But then you have to wonder where to draw the line with other hacks like KoF 10th Anniversary?

[Geddon_jt]

For most Neo Geo related queries, check the Master List (http://neo-geo.com/snk/masterlist.htm) over at Neo-Geo.com.

There are only those 4 homebrew titles: Diggerman, V-Liner, Neo Bubble Pop and Jockey Grandprix. The unreleased Ghostlop did also receive an unofficial MVS release. Although they are also including Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. It's a hack, but much better done than most, from what I hear. But then you have to wonder where to draw the line with other hacks like KoF 10th Anniversary?

Thanks for the plug. :)
Man, I *really* need to update the list.
Obviously the biggest omission now is the Last Hope homebrew release, which is definitely the best homebrew Neo effort thus far. All Ghostlop carts (MVS and AES) are just hollowed out official releases with the rom chips and stickers replaced ;) V-Liner and Jockey Grand Prix are difficult to classify for a couple of reasons - they aren't really homebrew games as they are officially licensed Brezzasoft titles. However, they require special MVS hardware to be fully functional and they arent really "games" per se, but more like gambling/slot machine software. You can get them running on a normal Neo Geo but there isn't much meaningful to do. (Neither was assigned a NGH number like all other Neo titles). I think of them the same way I think of Neoprint carts - not really official "Neo Geo" games unless you are a wacky completist.

As for me, I have around 65 AES games and a dozen MVS games, so I'm about half way there. I actually do have a goal of having every AES game and all MVS exclusive carts someday. It's not as crazy as a lot of people think - yes some carts are crazy expensive, but that really is a small percentage, and if you are patient and willing to do a little "leg work" Neo collecting is feasible on a modest budget (even AES!). Many people get into the hobby the wrong way, buying the rarest games first for premium prices, getting jaded with it, selling out, "going MVS" or whatever. Patience is really the key and makes Neo collecting the most enjoyable.

Oh, and as a more general answer to the question of a full list of homebrew releases... its a very difficult proposition as most homebrews originate (and stay) overseas, in Japan and Korea, for example. There are so many KOF hacks I can't really keep up anymore. Some have very minor gameplay tweaks and others are full blown hacks (like Crouching Tiger).

[CosmicMonkey]

So how will the homebrew section of the list be dealt with? Obviously the 4 main homebrew games and Last Hope are going to be on the list. These are proper full-on started from scratch games. Oh, and Frog Feast for the NeoCD!

But where to draw the line on hacks being included? CT,HD and KoF:10th may be impressive hacks, but they're still that: hacked bootlegs. And as you say, there's bloody loads. Including the rather laughable Metal Slug Chang Egun and MS6 hacks. You're never gonna be able to list all the million and one hacks, as there are indeed hundreds, ranging from crap and glitchy to quite impressive.

Also, one thing I have noticed about the Master List is that games given a US AES release from NeoGeoFreak USA aren't included. Now, this doesn't surprise me realisticaly and I dont want to open up the whole Dakis-can-of-worms here. But surely the Master List should contain NGF releases (and !Arcade! conversions, like S1945+) to be fully complete, even if they're in a seperate section. Then people will at least know what is out there and can make their own choice. I'm not promoting NGF in any way, but English KoF 2000 AES does exist. And according to the Courts, it is legal. NGF are a a part of NG history, there's no point trying to hide what's there (and what a saga it is).

[MagicMajenta]

So how will the homebrew section of the list be dealt with? Obviously the 4 main homebrew games and Last Hope are going to be on the list. These are proper full-on started from scratch games. Oh, and Frog Feast for the NeoCD!

But where to draw the line on hacks being included? CT,HD and KoF:10th may be impressive hacks, but they're still that: hacked bootlegs. And as you say, there's bloody loads. Including the rather laughable Metal Slug Chang Egun and MS6 hacks. You're never gonna be able to list all the million and one hacks, as there are indeed hundreds, ranging from crap and glitchy to quite impressive.

Also, one thing I have noticed about the Master List is that games given a US AES release from NeoGeoFreak USA aren't included. Now, this doesn't surprise me realisticaly and I dont want to open up the whole Dakis-can-of-worms here. But surely the Master List should contain NGF releases (and !Arcade! conversions, like S1945+) to be fully complete, even if they're in a seperate section. Then people will at least know what is out there and can make their own choice. I'm not promoting NGF in any way, but English KoF 2000 AES does exist. And according to the Courts, it is legal. NGF are a a part of NG history, there's no point trying to hide what's there (and what a saga it is).

What ever happened to Chris Ray and Dion Dakis.!!!!!!! I remember 4-5 years ago when they were just being trashed all over the place on the neo geo forums. Now it's like they just dissapeared; nobody even talks about them over there anymore. I know they were taken to court, and it seems like they just dissapeared from the scene since then. Have they moved on to other things?

[CosmicMonkey]

Mr Ray pops up on N-G.com once in a while I beleive. Dion showed up on the Neoempire forums most recently, proclaming his whole 'saviour of NeoGeo' spiel again.

As for the Master List maybe V-liner, JGP, Irritating Maze and the Neo Print stuff should go under a 'Non-Standard NG Hardware' section?

[Geddon_jt]

So how will the homebrew section of the list be dealt with? Obviously the 4 main homebrew games and Last Hope are going to be on the list. These are proper full-on started from scratch games. Oh, and Frog Feast for the NeoCD!

But where to draw the line on hacks being included? CT,HD and KoF:10th may be impressive hacks, but they're still that: hacked bootlegs. And as you say, there's bloody loads. Including the rather laughable Metal Slug Chang Egun and MS6 hacks. You're never gonna be able to list all the million and one hacks, as there are indeed hundreds, ranging from crap and glitchy to quite impressive.

Also, one thing I have noticed about the Master List is that games given a US AES release from NeoGeoFreak USA aren't included. Now, this doesn't surprise me realisticaly and I dont want to open up the whole Dakis-can-of-worms here. But surely the Master List should contain NGF releases (and !Arcade! conversions, like S1945+) to be fully complete, even if they're in a seperate section. Then people will at least know what is out there and can make their own choice. I'm not promoting NGF in any way, but English KoF 2000 AES does exist. And according to the Courts, it is legal. NGF are a a part of NG history, there's no point trying to hide what's there (and what a saga it is).

Yep, Frog Feast definitely needs to be added.
You're right about the hacks, I'm really thinking about just scrapping them from the list entirely.

Here's the thing about the NGF/Arcade releases etc. The whole reason the master list was created back in 2000 was because, back then, NGF was passing off fake carts as official SNK releases, showing stuff like a US Pulstar or a Jpn Shock Troopers and claiming they were ultra-rare SNK official releases. So the whole idea is to let people see what carts were officially released by SNK and in what formats. NGF *technically* had at least an insert made for every game so there is no reason to list those. I've always debated about KOF 2000, it's been on and off for a number of years, which is their only REAL "release" as it was licensed by SNK, and the insert and manual were SNK-designed. But in the end the paperwork was printed by them and and the carts were created by altering official Japanese 2k carts. It probably should be listed with an asterisk explaining all that. !Arcade! releases are just conversions (nice ones, though), but there are a billion different entities making high-quality conversions these days. I've never really had an interest in listing/mentioning unofficial versions of officially released games.

I like the idea of a new section for V-Liner, JGP and the Neoprint carts for a special non-standard hardware section. Irritating Maze is trickier because it was assigned an NGH number and the only reason you can't really play it on an AES is because there is no trackball interface. I'll think about that.

[ClubNinja]

I had what I considered to be a complete MVS collection. It included V-Liner and JGP, but not the "homebrews", hacks, and otherwise. I did, however, also have most of the Neo Print stuff. Regardless, once I got there, I remembered that I got into Neo Geo to *play*, not to collect, so I sold off the majority of my collection over the course of several months. If I had to guess, I'd say I have 30-35 or so games left. I'd still sell about 15 of those and not really miss them, before hitting the stuff I really care about.

[CosmicMonkey]

Anyone got pics of the NeoPrint stuff they can post please?

I've found a crap pic of the cab, but no pics of the main board, printer unit, camera or carts. There's a couple of old threads over at N-G.com, but the pics are long gone.

[pooch]

Well, I am a noob.

What are Neoprint carts? x_x

[CosmicMonkey]

The NGH # is the individual reference number assigned to each NeoGeo game. The Master List (http://neo-geo.com/snk/masterlist.htm) has each game's NGH # (i.e - Blazing Star is NGH #239). The ROM chips inside each MVS/AES cart have this # printed on them. It's one way to tell a real cart over a bootleg.

There's also the big puzzle surrounding the unreleased games and the missing NGH #s. A puzzle which Billy Pitt (http://members.tripod.com/fresa/proto/) is trying to solve, Bless him.

NeoPrint is a photobooth jobbie, but I'm sure the other guys can provide better explanation.

As for the infamous NGF, I'd suggest searching the N-G.com forums. It really is a saga in itself, and should keep you entertained for a while.

[orrimarrko]

I basically only collect for two systems now-a-days...

Atari 5200
and
Neo-Geo MVS

I have a dedicated 6 slot, so I thought that it would be nice to have a complete MVS library.

Initially, my goal was to collect kits, but with the advent of the shockbox and the gorgeous inserts that we're making, they look even better than most of the original AES box art (in my opinion.)

Anyway, I decided to just get 100% original, carts in great shape with 100% original English labels (also have to be in great/minty shape.)

In addition, I collect a mint original English mini marquee for each title.

When not in the cabinet, the mini rests in the shockbox with the cart.

The other reason I decided against the kit collecting is that the real premium isn't for the cart, mini or even the artset.
It's the box, with the matching serial numbers (in my experience) that makes up the majority of the value.

For example:

A Neo Mr. Do kit runs anywhere from $200 - $250, complete and in near mint condition.

However, the cart can be purchased for $90, and a complete art set (brand new) can be bought for $30 (I know, because I bought one new, just for the mini - then sold the rest.)

Total cost = $120. Even the box alone wouldn't run more than $20.

On the generous side, it would cost you $80 - $100 more if you bought the kit, rather than piece mailed it together.

On the other hand, a shockbox is $8.50, and the insert printing and cutting is $4.25. That's $12.75 plus the cost of the cart and the mini.

It not only looks better on a shelf, but costs less too.

Again, just my opinion, but as someone who had a decent sized kit collection, there's no justification, in my opinion.

As for my MVS collection, it's big.

Let's just say that I'm working on my last 50 carts, and last 60 minis.

Good luck!

Steve

[orrimarrko]

There's also the big puzzle surrounding the unreleased games and the missing NGH #s. A puzzle which Billy Pitt (http://members.tripod.com/fresa/proto/) is trying to solve, Bless him.

As for the infamous NGF, I'd suggest searching the N-G.com forums. It really is a saga in itself, and should keep you entertained for a while.

LOL!

If you have a LOT of time on your hands, you could find enough drama to read about for quite some time.

I do mean a LOT of drama.

Interesting stuff though. LOL

[MagicMajenta]

There's also the big puzzle surrounding the unreleased games and the missing NGH #s. A puzzle which Billy Pitt (http://members.tripod.com/fresa/proto/) is trying to solve, Bless him.

As for the infamous NGF, I'd suggest searching the N-G.com forums. It really is a saga in itself, and should keep you entertained for a while.

LOL!

If you have a LOT of time on your hands, you could find enough drama to read about for quite some time.

I do mean a LOT of drama.

Interesting stuff though. LOL

That forum about 4-5 years ago did nothing but trash NGF. But besides that there's still a lot of drama there of people scamming other people and whatnot.