people using the word mint too passively

[raregamergirl]

actually, wrong on the MIB. MIB was originally meant to describe that the item and the game were mint together in the box. this does not necessarily pertain to the manual.
also, I personally do not agree with you on the feedback system. There is a reason it works and has worked for so long. I have recieved a lot of retalitory neg feedback myself and also from sellers who purchase my items to make me look bad. no system can be perfect, but it as good as it can be.

also, go take a look at my feedback. considering almost all people that purchase items from me DO leave feedback, look at how many people say great item and as described! pretty much EVERY feedback comment!

[ckendal]

Of course you disagree, but the question wasn't really targetted at you...

[Jimmy Yakapucci]

I think that part of the confusion in the title:

Marble Madness Nintendo NES Complete Mint Like New MIB

comes from the 'Complete Mint' part. A bettter title would be:

Marble Madness Nintendo NES Complete. Cart & Box Mint

I have never used the term 'Mint' when describing anything. I figure there is probably someone more anal than me about quality reading it. Then again, I have seen lots of stuff that is NIB that is not MIB.

[fishsandwich]

actually, wrong on the MIB. MIB was originally meant to describe that the item and the game were mint together in the box. this does not necessarily pertain to the manual.
also, I personally do not agree with you on the feedback system. There is a reason it works and has worked for so long. I have recieved a lot of retalitory neg feedback myself and also from sellers who purchase my items to make me look bad. no system can be perfect, but it as good as it can be.

also, go take a look at my feedback. considering almost all people that purchase items from me DO leave feedback, look at how many people say great item and as described! pretty much EVERY feedback comment!


$20

[ckendal]

and MIB does mean that everything, including the box is MINT. Most would consider this one step up from CIB as Complete in Box could mean any condition, while MIB one can assume it is generally complete and mint.

[gum_drops]

$20

She makes way too much money off buying and reselling on these boards, you are going to have to up that payoff, a flat $20 is nothing.

:deadhorse:

[ckendal]

$20

She makes way too much money off buying and reselling on these boards, you are going to have to up that payoff, a flat $20 is nothing.

:deadhorse:

There is another way. Just stop dealing with her period and then she will have no reason to troll around here.

[CosmicMonkey]

jabber, jabber, jabber

Yeah, but I'd still kick yo ass on Matrimelee..... [/off topic]

So wait, you freely admit that you don't leave your customers feedback because you're too busy!!! Except for negatives. And you also mis-represent items. Yes, you're really doing yourself a lot of good here. I can see your business increasing 10-fold infact x_x :hmm:

Look everyone, she's not gonna change her position on this. Just like another individual that doesn't class a LaserActive as a MD, but that's another rant.

Anyway, back on topic:

http://www.glico.co.jp/pocky/images/noframe.jpg

Best munchie food ever. And I've just discovered they do Strawberry ones too!! They don't sell any Pocky in the UK though, apart from Cafe Manga in London. Damn them. Someone in Japan please help with my POcky addiction.

[sisko]

$20

She makes way too much money off buying and reselling on these boards, you are going to have to up that payoff, a flat $20 is nothing.

:deadhorse:

There is another way. Just stop dealing with her period and then she will have no reason to troll around here.

Of course, but we would still have to deal with her over at Neo-Geo, Atari Age, GTZ, and CAG.

[raregamergirl]

Lol, so now I apparently buy and resell from these boards? fascinating, would love to see this. please, go ahead and show me. you do realize I have quite a large collection? oh yeah, I am a troll because I defend myself by providing the WHOLE picture and the facts. :roll:

[bangtango]

I'd like to be able to list 20 items per hour on Ebay. That's for sure. I'm lucky to get 3-4 items up a week, though part of it is that I work two other jobs and have to list after supper.

raregamergirl does have a point. Boycotting her on this board isn't going to do her any harm. There are more people "happy" with her items than you might believe. The only people who are likely to get worked up into a lather would be the collectors that happen to frequent this board or have left her various forms of negative feedback. An ordinary gamer will probably be satisfied with that copy of Marble Madness if all they want to do is play it.

Sure, her listing style is more likely to attract a novice, casual or hardcore collector but more often than not, she'll end up selling to a gamer who just happens to want the game because they enjoy playing it or will give it to someone who enjoys playing it (and isn't a collector).

I'm not defending the way she lists her items. Just saying that I'm sure there will be a large number of people who are happy buying from her on a consistent, whether she gets boycotted on here or not.

[devils advocate]

Lol, so now I apparently buy and resell from these boards? fascinating, would love to see this. please, go ahead and show me. you do realize I have quite a large collection? oh yeah, I am a troll because I defend myself by providing the WHOLE picture and the facts. :roll:

I think you actually believe the crap that you spew.

If you have time to post so much here, why don't you have time to post the feedbacks you owe your customers.

You are right about the feedback system. It certainly does work.

[raregamergirl]

Yes I do believe the FACTS. Please go ahead and prove me wrong. Please go look at my feedback and view all my happy customers who label item as described. Please view my items over the past 30 months with the word mint. Find me more than say 3 percent that are not mint. I continue to post the facts that can be proven. You are stating your opinion which is not based on the facts presented.

[ckendal]

STOP DEFENDING YOURSELF. It is obvious that you are super defensive.

SHUT THE HELL UP! I think you actually believe what you say and that is scary.

I started this thread as a way to see what other people thought about using the word mint when stuff wasn't mint. And all it has done is turn into a HUGE flaming war.

Someone please lock this thread.. sigh!

[lendelin]

actually, wrong on the MIB. MIB was originally meant to describe that the item and the game were mint together in the box. this does not necessarily pertain to the manual.

LOL, damn, girl, you are some crook!

Just don't answer anymore and try to justify dishonesty...it is getting worse and worse.

[devils advocate]

Yes I do believe the FACTS. Please go ahead and prove me wrong. Please go look at my feedback and view all my happy customers who label item as described. Please view my items over the past 30 months with the word mint. Find me more than say 3 percent that are not mint. I continue to post the facts that can be proven. You are stating your opinion which is not based on the facts presented.

Sigh. There really is no defeating circular logic. I submit. You are a fantastic seller. Possibly in the top 5 I have ever seen. Excuse me now, while I go buy a few games........ Elsewhere.

[Kuros]

The FACTS, as you put it, are that you are misrepresenting your product.

You claim Mint and New, but you can't say that and go "Ok, the game and box are mint and new but the manual isn't so it's mint and new." You can't pick and choose which parts you represent. If someone asks me the condition, I will tell them that the game is mint and so is the manual, but the box is beat up. It's not that hard to do.

I don't care what the Ebay feedbacks say because they all have the same feeling if they don't leave good feedback, you will retaliate.

If big name companies were to try this kind of bullcrap in stores, we would have a huge problem on our hands. You say that you deal with a huge amount of games, how about looking at a Gamestop?

They deal with a huge amount of games, the thing is though is that they don't make claims to the condition of their used games like you do. I suggest either properly representing your games AS A WHOLE or just let the pictures show the condition.

[raregamergirl]

I am trying to prove a point.
If you have an opinion based on the facts, all of them, then please prove yourself and prove your reasoning using the entire situation as a whole. You will not be able to do this. I sell collectors type of items. I know that and anyone who has bought from me knows that. I am trying to prove that all of you are basing your statements on are you opinions that are not looking at the whole picture. Look at the whole picture, look at my other items with the word mint in the title. Prove me wrong! Look at my feedback and prove me wrong! You started this thread with a terrible example, that is not my fault. All I continue to do is represent the facts. If you think I am not going to defend myself and let anyone know the true facts, then that is ridiculous. I am not being defensive, I am simply supplying the facts that you are not. You want to look at one situation (in which the item was pictured and not even desribed as mint) out of my thousands and thousands of items and decided instantly that I do not use the word properly. This is clearly wrong as I list thousands of items. There are the occasional errors, but they are rare. Again, I ask you to look at the link I gave with the word mint in the title and view for yourself the pictures.

[devils advocate]

I am trying to prove a point.
If you have an opinion based on the facts, all of them, then please prove yourself and prove your reasoning using the entire situation as a whole. You will not be able to do this. I sell collectors type of items. I know that and anyone who has bought from me knows that. I am trying to prove that all of you are basing your statements on are you opinions that are not looking at the whole picture. Look at the whole picture, look at my other items with the word mint in the title. Prove me wrong! Look at my feedback and prove me wrong! You started this thread with a terrible example, that is not my fault. All I continue to do is represent the facts. If you think I am not going to defend myself and let anyone know the true facts, then that is ridiculous. I am not being defensive, I am simply supplying the facts that you are not. You want to look at one situation (in which the item was pictured and not even desribed as mint) out of my thousands and thousands of items and decided instantly that I do not use the word properly. This is clearly wrong as I list thousands of items. There are the occasional errors, but they are rare. Again, I ask you to look at the link I gave with the word mint in the title and view for yourself the pictures.


http://www.millan.net/anims/giffar/kookoo.gif

[gum_drops]

If big name companies were to try this kind of bullcrap in stores, we would have a huge problem on our hands. You say that you deal with a huge amount of games, how about looking at a Gamestop?


Although they did buy a group of reprints from game quest direct and sell them as used Mint copies, such as with Persona 2, Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure. :angry: Thats a whole other topic on its own, dont get me started on Game Quest.

[Kuros]

If big name companies were to try this kind of bullcrap in stores, we would have a huge problem on our hands. You say that you deal with a huge amount of games, how about looking at a Gamestop?


Although they did buy a group of reprints from game quest direct and sell them as used Mint copies, such as with Persona 2, Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure. :angry: Thats a whole other topic on its own, dont get me started on Game Quest.

Yes that is a whole other topic, but I will say that the blame shouldn't be placed on GS for this since they were just making a smart business move.

[Funk Buddy]

Yes I do believe the FACTS. Please go ahead and prove me wrong. Please go look at my feedback and view all my happy customers who label item as described. Please view my items over the past 30 months with the word mint. Find me more than say 3 percent that are not mint. I continue to post the facts that can be proven. You are stating your opinion which is not based on the facts presented.

The problem is, you (your employees) put the word "mint" or like "new in" the title when it's not. You believe that the title means nothing and the description is all that matters. If this is true then leave out the words in question and that solves the problem.

Shame on the buyer for not asking questions first if needed. I bet if we run a poll, a lot of people will say that the title is also important as the description when looking at auctions.

[qbertandernie]

looking at this sellers prices(and volume of listings), i find it VERY hard to believe that she makes 'a little profit'. if you are, you are doing something HORRIBLY wrong. a lot of your prices are laughable, even on items that HAVE SOLD. my prices are reasonable and i describe things properly - and still make a good amount of money, even at 200 items a month.

and the feedback system? it has worked for a long time. why dont you use it then? you pay people to list all day long, how long does it take to copy and paste the same positive feedback over and over? even 2000x a month?

i think the trouble comes in sorting through the large number is dissatisfied customers and making sure they dont get positives...

[devils advocate]

I actually have three questions for raregamergirl. Let's see if she can give a direct answer to either of these. It's a challenge. Can she respond , or will it be more circular BS?!?!?

1. Have you ever NOT responded to a negative feedback with a negative of your own. (psst.. I know the answer, so don't lie)

2. If you answer "no" to the above question, Do you REALLY believe that every negative you have EVER received are all the buyers fault. Never your own?

3. Have you called every buyer a "liar" or a "cheat", in every negative you have left, regrdless of how good their other feedback is?(psst.. I know the answer again, so don't lie!)

Answer the questions in English, with no BS or circular responses. Can you?

[devils advocate]

I thought for fun, I would google her real name. Here is the FIRST listing in google. LOL

http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=88994&st=25

[devils advocate]

My personal favorite.... Exposed! LOL LOL LOL

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150979

[Lady Jaye]

Well, all this drama here, and at AtariAge and all the negs feedbacks have convinced of one thing: I will never, ever do business with her.

[devils advocate]

Well, all this drama here, and at AtariAge and all the negs feedbacks have convinced of one thing: I will never, ever do business with her.

And I would say, A mighty good plan you have!! LOL

[gum_drops]

i think the trouble comes in sorting through the large number is dissatisfied customers and making sure they dont get positives...

Even that isnt an issue. She just doesnt care about her bidders, simple as that. There is no other reason not to leave FB. And dont try feeding use that "I dont have time".

Under My ebay:feedback you can sort it so that all the positives you have recieved show up, seperated from the negatives/neutrals which are at the very bottom of the page together.

There really is no excuse for not leaving FB. Using what i mentioned above I can leave 10 fb a minute using copy and paste along with the tabs used by the firefox brower, i timed myself.

If she or an employee spent 5 minutes a day after some quick math that comes to 1500 feedback a month, not too difficult.

[raregamergirl]

lets see, there is NO negative feedback on atariage. ANYONE knows what happenned knows that it has long since been worked out and there IS NO ISSUE. it takes zmweasel a LONG time to reply (view the thread for evidence of this) and I was not aware of who he was at the time. I had sent him quite a bit of money and had no responses. since then, he has made 3 more purchases to me totalling about $800. we worked the transaction out. as for the buyer on neogeoforums, view the auctions for yourself. shipping is clearly listed at $5 for the first item and $3.50 per additional. I cant control what the user deems excessive, but they agreed to those clear conditions when they purchased the item.
As for feedback, I could GLADLY provide you many instances where negative feedback was NOT left for a user when it was left for me. there are instances where I have felt negligible. not for anything I left negative feedback for. please view the feedback and see for yourself. virtually all of it pertains to the same things
a) person outside the US claims to not recieve a package, I provide a refund (anyone knows its a total problem shipping outside the US)
b) user was not happy with shipping fees clearly listed
c)user recieved an item that apparently they had a problem with but failed to attempt to contact me
d) very rarely a user recieved a similar but wrong item, which was then corrected.

in any of those instances, if they were corrected, I deem negative feedback to not be fair for me. therefore I deem them as bad buyers.

[raregamergirl]

Also, if you think a single one of my prices is high, please show links. my prices are totally reasonable, among the best for large volume sellers on ebay. My prices stay at or below average market value. This is how I can sell so much. why do I not make much. many reasons
a) I pay rent for a business to store and keep track of everything etc, rent is expensive
b) ebay fees are more than you would believe
c) I pay my employees VERY well
d) taxes are very expensive and take a good bit of my money
e) I pay top dollar for items. I do not nickel and dime. Almost all my items come from collections or from game stores. I have contracts with stores where they give me certain excess items and I give them X percent (a very high percent) of what I sell the item for. you may be able to get items for great prices, but I do not. I manage to have such a large selection by NOT nickel and diming. I manage to stock the best and most desirable items by paying top dollar.
f) a lot of the items I have up (like NES CIB items) came from buying bulk collections on the internet from true collectors. I kept what I needed and got rid of the rest. I make basically $0 on a single NES game that sells.

[Kuros]

Also, if you think a single one of my prices is high, please show links. my prices are totally reasonable, among the best for large volume sellers on ebay. My prices stay at or below average market value. This is how I can sell so much. why do I not make much. many reasons
a) I pay rent for a business to store and keep track of everything etc, rent is expensive
b) ebay fees are more than you would believe
c) I pay my employees VERY well
d) taxes are very expensive and take a good bit of my money
e) I pay top dollar for items. I do not nickel and dime. Almost all my items come from collections or from game stores. I have contracts with stores where they give me certain excess items and I give them X percent (a very high percent) of what I sell the item for. you may be able to get items for great prices, but I do not. I manage to have such a large selection by NOT nickel and diming. I manage to stock the best and most desirable items by paying top dollar.
f) a lot of the items I have up (like NES CIB items) came from buying bulk collections on the internet from true collectors. I kept what I needed and got rid of the rest. I make basically $0 on a single NES game that sells.

If you claim you have as many expenses and don't make as much as you do, why sell on ebay?

[Kuros]

Also, if you think a single one of my prices is high, please show links. my prices are totally reasonable, among the best for large volume sellers on ebay. My prices stay at or below average market value. This is how I can sell so much. why do I not make much. many reasons
a) I pay rent for a business to store and keep track of everything etc, rent is expensive
b) ebay fees are more than you would believe
c) I pay my employees VERY well
d) taxes are very expensive and take a good bit of my money
e) I pay top dollar for items. I do not nickel and dime. Almost all my items come from collections or from game stores. I have contracts with stores where they give me certain excess items and I give them X percent (a very high percent) of what I sell the item for. you may be able to get items for great prices, but I do not. I manage to have such a large selection by NOT nickel and diming. I manage to stock the best and most desirable items by paying top dollar.
f) a lot of the items I have up (like NES CIB items) came from buying bulk collections on the internet from true collectors. I kept what I needed and got rid of the rest. I make basically $0 on a single NES game that sells.

If you claim you have as many expenses and don't make as much as you do, why sell on ebay?

Forgot to mention, why try to sob story us? It's not gonna work.

[raregamergirl]

Lol, sob story my ass. Its no sob story. He simply ASKED how I dont make much and I explained. I did NOT say I dont make ANYTHING. I get paid well for what I do. I do also have many sales through many other methods. Ebay is less than half of the money I bring in. I make a small amount per item, but it makes up as I sell a LOT of items. Its been dubbed the costco method. Sell at a small profit but sell a LOT and you will make up for it.
So evidently I answer a question with the facts and I am trying to create a sob story :roll:

[raregamergirl]

So I have responded to absolutely EVERY single issue brought up with the facts, when is someone going to try to prove me wrong? I provided a link to over 1000 auctions with the word mint in the title. Please, someone, if the word mint is apparently abbundently being used improperly, prove it with the facts. Find me at least 3 percent of the auctions that I do not deem mint.

[devils advocate]

lets see, there is NO negative feedback on atariage. ANYONE knows what happenned knows that it has long since been worked out and there IS NO ISSUE. it takes zmweasel a LONG time to reply (view the thread for evidence of this) and I was not aware of who he was at the time. I had sent him quite a bit of money and had no responses. since then, he has made 3 more purchases to me totalling about $800. we worked the transaction out. as for the buyer on neogeoforums, view the auctions for yourself. shipping is clearly listed at $5 for the first item and $3.50 per additional. I cant control what the user deems excessive, but they agreed to those clear conditions when they purchased the item.
As for feedback, I could GLADLY provide you many instances where negative feedback was NOT left for a user when it was left for me. there are instances where I have felt negligible. not for anything I left negative feedback for. please view the feedback and see for yourself. virtually all of it pertains to the same things
a) person outside the US claims to not recieve a package, I provide a refund (anyone knows its a total problem shipping outside the US)
b) user was not happy with shipping fees clearly listed
c)user recieved an item that apparently they had a problem with but failed to attempt to contact me
d) very rarely a user recieved a similar but wrong item, which was then corrected.

in any of those instances, if they were corrected, I deem negative feedback to not be fair for me. therefore I deem them as bad buyers.


Well. Again you lie. Imagine that.

I went through every one of the negatives you have received. You have left a negative back on EVERY SINGLE ONE except for one where you f'ed up and left a positive bar with a negative comment. They have NOTHING TO DO WITH THE REASONS YOU SAID. THEY WERE RETALIATORY PURE AND SIMPLE. you ruined a lot of new Ebayers reputations. You should be F'n ashamed of yourself for that. You are the most self absorbed person I have ever heard. In one thread here you accused someone of lowballing prices, but in another you're PROUD that you did it yourself to someone who didn't know better. (think earthbound) EVEN YOUR TRADING THREAD ON THIS SITE HAS ISSUES.

You have issues with people on every forum you use, and you don't trust ANYBODY that you deal with. Wonder why? Well, it's said that one thief never trusts another.. But that's just a saying. I'm sure it doesn't apply to you.

CAVEAT EMPTOR
Buyer Beware........ And disgusted.

[raregamergirl]

Are you serious? where did anyone say $225 is lowballing for an earthbound that may or may not be new? in fact, there is one on ebay right now with a $300 BIN in an ebay store that IS brand new for sure. I stated $225 was a very fair price, not a bargain but I was not ripped off. I hate auctions as I tend to overpay.
As for the feedback, you fail to even mention the fact that every single feedback falls under the categories that I described. You could not possibly have gone through my 10,000 feedback as I guarantee you without ANY doubt that you are wrong. I do not have time to go through it right now, but when I get the chance, I will of course prove you wrong.

[Hounder]

I wasn't about to read all of this thread but I'll throw in my opinion on the matter. I frankly don't care anymore whether it says the word "mint" or "rare" in the title anymore. They are such common used words I've learned better ways to search for stuff. Plus I want a pic before I buy anything so that I will know what it is and what condition it is whether it says "mint" or not.

As for said auction, the cart and box look very mint to me. Yes, the manual is creased but it's like a $2 manaul so I wouldn't care.

[devils advocate]

Are you serious? where did anyone say $225 is lowballing for an earthbound that may or may not be new? in fact, there is one on ebay right now with a $300 BIN in an ebay store that IS brand new for sure. I stated $225 was a very fair price, not a bargain but I was not ripped off. I hate auctions as I tend to overpay.
As for the feedback, you fail to even mention the fact that every single feedback falls under the categories that I described. You could not possibly have gone through my 10,000 feedback as I guarantee you without ANY doubt that you are wrong. I do not have time to go through it right now, but when I get the chance, I will of course prove you wrong.

No you won't. Because you can not. There is a tool that seperates all of your negatives and neutrals from your positives. Read page one.

And yes, I was bored and went through EVERY SINGLE ONE. You're completely pathetic and unreputable.

Again, Caveat Emptor.

[crazyjackcsa]

Getting back on topic here for awhile: I'd like to get everybody's opinion on what is "MINT" I'm sure there a lot of really picky people here that would only accept a sealed, absoulte perfect as mint, but realistically what would you consider mint?

A better why of putting it: Let's ay you got something from somebody on the board here and opened it up. What would it take for you to say, "Yep, that's a reasonable representation of mint"

I mainly collect U.S. Saturn games, so here is what I need to get for a mint saturn game: I must recieve the manual game and case. The foam insert and registration card is not required. The game cannot have scratches of any kind, no matter how mild. The maula can show very slight wear, perhaps a few slight wrinkles were it has been pulled out of the box. No rips, creases dirt, or water damage. The case cannot have any cracks or deep scratches. The light "scuffing" that the cases get through gentle adult use is acceptable.

Sure that descripiton isn't the dictionary definition of "mint" but for me, if one of my games looked like that, I would describe it as mint, and if I received it as such I would consider it mint.

[Synergy]

Yikes! This thread's been busy. LOL


Getting back on topic here for awhile: I'd like to get everybody's opinion on what is "MINT" I'm sure there a lot of really picky people here that would only accept a sealed, absoulte perfect as mint, but realistically what would you consider mint?

A better why of putting it: Let's ay you got something from somebody on the board here and opened it up. What would it take for you to say, "Yep, that's a reasonable representation of mint"

I mainly collect U.S. Saturn games, so here is what I need to get for a mint saturn game: I must recieve the manual game and case. The foam insert and registration card is not required. The game cannot have scratches of any kind, no matter how mild. The maula can show very slight wear, perhaps a few slight wrinkles were it has been pulled out of the box. No rips, creases dirt, or water damage. The case cannot have any cracks or deep scratches. The light "scuffing" that the cases get through gentle adult use is acceptable.

Sure that descripiton isn't the dictionary definition of "mint" but for me, if one of my games looked like that, I would describe it as mint, and if I received it as such I would consider it mint.

Hmm, let's see...

Picture buying a PlayStation game brand new from a store still in shrinkwrap. Remove shrinkwrap. Play the game a few times while ALWAYS handling the disc by the edges and not getting any marks on it whatsoever and put it back in the case. Now, take a look at it. That is what I consider a "Mint" game.

In other words, a game that has been used, but is still in "new" condition, if that makes any sense.

The light scuffing you mention I always refer to as "shelf wear", which is, very light scuffs or marks you could only see under a strong direct light where they rub lightly against other cases. I would still consider a game "Mint" if it had these marks on the case.

Personally, I'm not that anal about how my games look, but I do want them to look very nice. If the above mentioned "Mint" game had a figerprint on the outer edge of the disc I could carefully wipe off, I'll still buy it, but scratches and/or stains or writing on the cover, and my brain automatically goes "PASS!" :P

Bottom line, reguardless of what the auction states, ask detailed questions and get detailed pictures.

[bangtango]

STOP DEFENDING YOURSELF. It is obvious that you are super defensive.

SHUT THE HELL UP! I think you actually believe what you say and that is scary.

I started this thread as a way to see what other people thought about using the word mint when stuff wasn't mint. And all it has done is turn into a HUGE flaming war.

Someone please lock this thread.. sigh!

You started this thread by linking an Ebay auction being run by a person who is a member here. What did you expect? For her to sit back and let this thread fill up without her challenging it?

I understand that being a big-time Ebay seller and the wording used in her listings makes her open to scrutiny on a message board. However, you can't say you are starting a thread with nothing but good intentions in mind when you publicly call out a person who posts here by linking one of their auctions.

If you'd wanted to make a statement about the word "mint" being thrown around too much, it is easy enough to do without linking someone's auction and starting a feud.

As for the person offering her $20 to leave this place, so as to make the board a better place, why don't you give the money to this place in the form of a donation if you are so eager to unload $20?

[Daria]

e) I pay top dollar for items. I do not nickel and dime. Almost all my items come from collections or from game stores.

I have a friend on these boards whom very recently was liquidating his collection. He said that contacted him regarding a package of PS1 games and that he quoted you a very fair price, which knowing him would have already been below top dollar. At which point you haggled and returned fire with a low ball offer.

Which is all fine and good, you can't operate a buisness without haggling. We all know the goal is to buy low and sell higher, so to suggest you're some kind of finacial martyr that always offers the highest amount is not only a ridiculous concept, but obvious bullshit.

My friend wishes to remain unnamed. But so you know I'm not full of shit, you originally wanted his Seiken Densetsu 3, but he'd already promised it to someone else.

[kentuckyfried]

Lotta emotion out there, save yourselves the trouble.

NOBODY is going to shame anybody into anything, it's pointless to try to change peoples, especially in an online forum.

Sadly though this thread reinforces my opinion of the lowest common denominator in most business attitudes.

Hopefully you can see past the thread's emotion raregamergirl to at least see that there is a percentage of your target market that completely disagrees with some of your business practices.

You do want our money, right?

[Griking]

actually, wrong on the MIB. MIB was originally meant to describe that the item and the game were mint together in the box. this does not necessarily pertain to the manual.

I'll just be short and sweet about this and then move on. Basically I think you're a piece of shit and you're purposely trying to deceive your buyers with misleading auction titles and then trying to cover for it with bullshit logic.

I'm sure you'll respond by telling me to not bid on your auctions. Don't worry, I won't. Also feel free to (and please do) place me on your blocked bidders list that way I'm won't accidently make a mistake years down the road. My eBay name is Griking as well.

Lastly, as for the eBay feedback system working, remember that guy who was buying complete game and then resealing them and selling them as new a little while back? Well his feedback was over 99% up until the point where he was apparantly arrested for fraud and whatever else they got him for. Knowing that now would you still buy from him knowing that his feedback was great.

[cyberfluxor]

My what a fast growing, friendly thread. Didn't have a chance to respond earlier today and now, it's another page longer than a few hours ago and working towards page 6.


I'll open up real quick about raregamergirl. You may not agree with everyone else in the world and they won't always agree with you. Sure, there's those 10527 feedbacks you've had since beginning the account Jun-22-05 (BTW: That's not 2k sales a month, either you have multiple accounts or you can't follow your own assests and I know more than 50% of users leave feedback) but you can't deny that a good at least 9% of your buyers believe you jipped them or something was terribly wrong with your auction. There's sellers out there with astronomical amounts of more sales than you with fewer negatives per sale so you should aim towards being one of those more satisfying, might get more customers and re-accuring.

But back to the initial topic. Yes, those terms have been over used so many times and it's annoying when something isn't properly listed. There's a reason I don't generally buy online and just stick to the lucky finds locally. The CIB is supposed to be Complete in Box, and if it's Mint CIB then everything better be like new, no rips or folds even. Discs for me can be a bit light scratched but excessive is out of the story, can't take those. Manuals are a must for disc titles as well, but cartridge games are too hard to find around here in boxes even, so I just aim for great condition cases and covers. That of course means no markings, Blockbuster stickers (My god....) and other junk that is near impossible to get off. There are a few games though that I'll take a bit beaten up if it'll play, like my Super Buster Bros. I couldn't pass that game up for $2 even with a fading cover.

[raregamergirl]

And what business practices might that be exactly? No-one has taken me up on any of my own questions. I continue to pour in the facts and people just ignore those. they instead go to the false opinions that have literally no basis on facts. if anyone took a look at the facts (see my feedback and how many people say just as described, hmmm, I wonder why they said that? guess they were lying, werent they!) or the auctions that I posted a link to, they would see the facts.

I dont even understand your idea about the guy who sold the resealed NES games. as I am sure you are aware, he only sold so many (from what I know, less than 40) so not many people had the chance to leave him negative feedback so his percentage couldnt really get lower. he also had the auction as private so no-one could email the bidders to explain they were reseals and lets be honest, the average collector cant tell the difference as long as it has the seam. I can and many other upper tier collectors can, but the average collector cant. Until then, people did not even realize you could replicate the seam!

As for trying to get DP members money, I do not care who purchases my items. My point is that they will sell. The facts are clear and I STILL continue to ask someone to look at the facts. NO-ONE HAS!!! NOT a single person has posted a single other auction out of the 1200 or so that had mint in the title that was not mint. COME ON PEOPLE! LETS GET SOME PROOF HERE!

As for the playstation collection or whatever, I have honestly no idea who you are speaking of. I did not even purchase any of that persons playstation games that I know of, nor did I ever attempt to. perhaps you can PM me the details as I am nearly positive I never dealt with that person. If I remember correctly, I was going to and they lost one of the items and the deal fell through.

[raregamergirl]

You are somewhat right about feedback. I do not leave feedback, though, and only about 55 percent of people leave feedback first (at least in my instances). I can show you scans of how many items I have sold the past 90 days, it is over 2000 per month in fact.
also, where in the world do you get these numbers from? I have 125 negative with 113 being from different users. That comes to a 98.84 ratio (teetering on a 98.9, will be soon). No idea where this 9 percent idea comes from but I guarantee you that is not correct. Also, I figured I would add my paypal complaint ratio number for the past 3 months is 0.6 percent. anyone who sells on ebay knows thats insanely great. if you look at any user who sells mass used items, you will find they all have similar feedback- somewhere between 97 and 99 percent positive feedback. very few go over while selling as much quantity of used product.

[devils advocate]

Are you serious? where did anyone say $225 is lowballing for an earthbound that may or may not be new? in fact, there is one on ebay right now with a $300 BIN in an ebay store that IS brand new for sure. I stated $225 was a very fair price, not a bargain but I was not ripped off. I hate auctions as I tend to overpay.
As for the feedback, you fail to even mention the fact that every single feedback falls under the categories that I described. You could not possibly have gone through my 10,000 feedback as I guarantee you without ANY doubt that you are wrong. I do not have time to go through it right now, but when I get the chance, I will of course prove you wrong.


Still waiting here for you to prove "without a doubt" that I am wrong.
Having a hard time finding a non retalatory feedback that you left? Thought so.

Top make your friend happy, If you can find even ONE, I'll donate ten bucks to digitalpress right now. How bout if you can't, then you donate ten bucks? After all, you did say "without a doubt".

Ten bucks pennance for a lie is probably cheap.

[ckendal]

STOP DEFENDING YOURSELF. It is obvious that you are super defensive.

SHUT THE HELL UP! I think you actually believe what you say and that is scary.

I started this thread as a way to see what other people thought about using the word mint when stuff wasn't mint. And all it has done is turn into a HUGE flaming war.

Someone please lock this thread.. sigh!

You started this thread by linking an Ebay auction being run by a person who is a member here. What did you expect? For her to sit back and let this thread fill up without her challenging it?

There really isn't anything to challenge. It isn't mint! END OF STORY!
So I may have picked a bad example, but that's no excuse for all this non-sense ranting.

[pseudonym]

Back to the original topic without roasting RGG anymore. One last thing though.

A complete Marble Madness in mostly good condition for $7 isn't too bad. I would only be concerned about the gouging with shipping, and the condition of something if it was what I was specifically after, like the manual or the box. Like Hounder said, the manual can be found in good/great cond., if you were that anal for $1-2, maybe a bit more.

Mint as I see it is completely flawless which I've only seen in newly opened shrink-wrapped games. I don't consider a game mint if it is slightly faded/color bleeding, has stress lines and/or light wear although some people still consider it so.

Someone needs to make a standard condition scale like vinyl, comics, sports cards and whatnot. Even computer games have a standardized scale that quite a few people follow apparently.

[kentuckyfried]

And what business practices might that be exactly? No-one has taken me up on any of my own questions. I continue to pour in the facts and people just ignore those. they instead go to the false opinions that have literally no basis on facts. if anyone took a look at the facts (see my feedback and how many people say just as described, hmmm, I wonder why they said that? guess they were lying, werent they!) or the auctions that I posted a link to, they would see the facts.

I dont even understand your idea about the guy who sold the resealed NES games. as I am sure you are aware, he only sold so many (from what I know, less than 40) so not many people had the chance to leave him negative feedback so his percentage couldnt really get lower. he also had the auction as private so no-one could email the bidders to explain they were reseals and lets be honest, the average collector cant tell the difference as long as it has the seam. I can and many other upper tier collectors can, but the average collector cant. Until then, people did not even realize you could replicate the seam!

As for trying to get DP members money, I do not care who purchases my items. My point is that they will sell. The facts are clear and I STILL continue to ask someone to look at the facts. NO-ONE HAS!!! NOT a single person has posted a single other auction out of the 1200 or so that had mint in the title that was not mint. COME ON PEOPLE! LETS GET SOME PROOF HERE!

As for the playstation collection or whatever, I have honestly no idea who you are speaking of. I did not even purchase any of that persons playstation games that I know of, nor did I ever attempt to. perhaps you can PM me the details as I am nearly positive I never dealt with that person. If I remember correctly, I was going to and they lost one of the items and the deal fell through.

I thought I wrote a damn good post. Some of the other posts have gold in them too.

If you can't get a single damn thing out of any of this, and continue to believe that you are right and everyone else is wrong, then quit responding to any of this and continue alienating alot of DP and ebay members.

Mint means mint dammit. But you won't or can't even see that you are wrong for using the word when it doesn't apply. Either reason is very bad on your part.

I'm going to go in the other room and pray for you now.

[raregamergirl]

Oh my goodness, have you read the thread kentucky fried? the title was NOT speaking of the whole package. it was only in reference to the box and cart. the description labelled it as GREAT condition and NOT mint.
Now my point is that please show me ANY other listings that are not accurately described that I have up.
Apparently people here seem to assume I am out to get the world by trying to trick people, so lets get some proof.
Where is it?
Was the auction incorrectly titled? In my opinion, no, as parts of the item were mint. parts were like new. the box is very crisp. if you saw it you would agree the box on its own is like new.
Now lets move on to the description or picture. BOTH of those clearly show what the buyer is to recieve.
No confusion. None. No trying to pass something off as mint. Sorry, wrong idea and not here.
Now lets look at my other auctions and get some of that proof.
I will get to the feedback when I can. As I told you, I am far too busy to even leave feedback, let alone review my own for hours on end.
I still cant figure out what the heck people are talking about here.
Did people bother looking at the picture or reading the description? did they bother checking my other mint items up right now? the title is meant to draw the buyer into the auction. the title can have ANYTHING to do with what is included. now the box and cart are in mint like new condition, therefore, in my opinion, the word mint in the title does work. if I had listed the cart only and listed it as mint, would that be fine? why not then for a complete copy with a mint cart and box can I not do the same then make it clear that not all pieces are mint. only certain parts were.

[Daria]

Excuse the long URLs. I didn't bother to look at all 600+ auctions that featured the word mint. But I did find a few glaring flaws in the games I did click on. I'd say one out of every 10 auctions I checked out had something visably not-mint about it. Here's a sample.. I can dig up more if this doesn't meet your challenge.


Worn Label... but MINTY!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Game-Watch-Gallery-1-Game-Boy-Original-Mint-Classics_W0QQitemZ250028289988QQihZ015QQcategoryZ6 2053QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Groove gunk! And a damaged label to boot.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Illusion-Of-Gaia-Super-Nintendo-SNES-Mint-RPG-Game_W0QQitemZ250028293726QQihZ015QQcategoryZ62053 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Damaged box, ugly manual, and not even rare. :P
http://cgi.ebay.com/Conflict-Nintendo-NES-Mint-In-Box-Rare-Game_W0QQitemZ250028336895QQihZ015QQcategoryZ62053 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Dog Eared Manual
http://cgi.ebay.com/Resident-Evil-W-Manual-Sega-Saturn-Mint-Rare-1-US_W0QQitemZ250028030427QQihZ015QQcategoryZ62053QQ rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

More Nasty Gunk
http://cgi.ebay.com/Elmos-Number-Journey-Nintendo-64-N64-Rare-MINT-Kids_W0QQitemZ250028279638QQihZ015QQcategoryZ62053 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Gotta love that "minty" sticker residue
http://cgi.ebay.com/Harvest-Moon-2-Game-Boy-Color-GBC-Mint-VERY-Rare-RPG_W0QQitemZ250028289726QQihZ015QQcategoryZ62053Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Worn edges along the bottom of the box, and a crease in the left bottom corner
http://cgi.ebay.com/1942-Nintendo-Nes-Mint-In-Box-MIB-Classic-Game_W0QQitemZ250028336621QQihZ015QQcategoryZ62053 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

No... no it's not.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Dragon-Warrior-I-1-Nintendo-NES-Mint-In-Box-Rare_W0QQitemZ250028337238QQihZ015QQcategoryZ62053 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[ckendal]

Ok I've had enough of the bickering to last me a life time.

Everyone - Just stop antagonizing her. She puts herself into these situations and we all know it. Let's all stop beating a dead horse. We know what is wrong and right and we can't force it onto people. Some people won't get it ever.

to RGG - Just stop responding. It is pointless when the entire freaking board doesn't agree with you.



ckendal winds up into his finishing move, pulls out a clown nose, slaps it on rgg and honks it...

Welcome to the world of DP's new official clown.


Sorry I had to get my geek moment in there! LOL

I am done with this thread so please lock it if you want mods.

[kentuckyfried]

Better get the plates, cuz you got served.

[Kuros]

Daria: I tip my hat to you for the research.

</bickering>

[raregamergirl]

lets go through
the game and watch used the same photo as another one (that was not described as mint) and the one that is being sold IS NOT the one pictured. it IS mint and I can show you a picture if you like. flawless

illusion of gaia I have a couple up right now. some are mint and some are not but they all use the same photo. the mint ones are mint, that one is NOT one of the mint ones obviously. I have over 9 of them in stock right now

conflict is not easyt to find in the box, it is pretty rare in the box. the box is most definitely minty. the manual is a throw in and is not even labelled as a complete game. it was a photcopied version that i had that was given to me. the game is most definitely minty though. can show you more pictures if you like

resident evil disk is mint, the manual is not. please not the description says great shape.

elmo's was a relist and did not feel like changing the photo, not the one pictured. the one the buyer will recieve is mint, again can show photos if you like.

the harvest moon 2 is ALSO a relist (I have multiples of it up right now with the other described as fair condition using the same photo) yet again it is not the one you will recieve

1942 was described as great condition and NOT mint again.

dragon warrior is again described as great condition and not mint

[bangtango]

A LOVE SONG FOR raregamergirl :)

Your name is Sara, right? The passionate and relentless defending of your Ebay listings lights a fire under me! Your tireless efforts to get the word out are a turn on......... ;)

Let's have dinner together! You bring a box of items (mint or not). I'll bring a smile and a fresh set of fingers to list them with. We can stare into each other's eyes (what color are yours?) and then proceed sit down together and list Ebay items together, late into the night...........Being lovestruck, I'll probably list them for free but don't tell anybody :D


Here is a token of my affection, recorded by Starship!!!!!!!


STARSHIP lyrics: "SARA"

Go now, don't look back, we've drawn the line
Move on, it's no good to go back in time

I'll never find another girl like you, for happy endings it takes two
We're fire and ice, the dream won't come true

Chorus:
Sara, Sara, storms are brewin' in your eyes
Sara, Sara, no time is a good time for goodbyes

Danger in the game when the stakes are high
Branded, my heart was branded while my senses stood by

I'll never find another girl like you, for happy endings it takes two
We're fire and ice, the dream won't come true

Sara, Sara, storms are brewin' in your eyes
Sara, Sara, no time is a good time, oh
Sara, Sara, storms are brewin' in your eyes
Sara, Sara, no time is a good time for goodbyes

('Cos Sara) Loved me like no one has ever loved me before
(And Sara) Hurt me, no one could ever hurt me more
(And Sara) Sara, nobody loved me anymore

(Solo)

I'll never find another girl like you
We're fire and ice, the dream won't come true

Sara, Sara, no time is a good time, oh

chorus

Sara, Sara, storms are brewin' in your eyes
Sara, Sara, no time is a good time, no
Ooh Sara, why did it, why did it, why did it all fall apart...

[ckendal]

lets go through
the game and watch used the same photo as another one (that was not described as mint) and the one that is being sold IS NOT the one pictured. it IS mint and I can show you a picture if you like. flawless

illusion of gaia I have a couple up right now. some are mint and some are not but they all use the same photo. the mint ones are mint, that one is NOT one of the mint ones obviously. I have over 9 of them in stock right now

conflict is not easyt to find in the box, it is pretty rare in the box. the box is most definitely minty. the manual is a throw in and is not even labelled as a complete game. it was a photcopied version that i had that was given to me. the game is most definitely minty though. can show you more pictures if you like

resident evil disk is mint, the manual is not. please not the description says great shape.

elmo's was a relist and did not feel like changing the photo, not the one pictured. the one the buyer will recieve is mint, again can show photos if you like.

the harvest moon 2 is ALSO a relist (I have multiples of it up right now with the other described as fair condition using the same photo) yet again it is not the one you will recieve

1942 was described as great condition and NOT mint again.

dragon warrior is again described as great condition and not mint

I am sorry but now you are 3 things:

1) LAZY
2) MALICIOUS
3) STILL WRONG!!

[devils advocate]

lets go through
the game and watch used the same photo as another one (that was not described as mint) and the one that is being sold IS NOT the one pictured. it IS mint and I can show you a picture if you like. flawless

illusion of gaia I have a couple up right now. some are mint and some are not but they all use the same photo. the mint ones are mint, that one is NOT one of the mint ones obviously. I have over 9 of them in stock right now

conflict is not easyt to find in the box, it is pretty rare in the box. the box is most definitely minty. the manual is a throw in and is not even labelled as a complete game. it was a photcopied version that i had that was given to me. the game is most definitely minty though. can show you more pictures if you like

resident evil disk is mint, the manual is not. please not the description says great shape.

elmo's was a relist and did not feel like changing the photo, not the one pictured. the one the buyer will recieve is mint, again can show photos if you like.

the harvest moon 2 is ALSO a relist (I have multiples of it up right now with the other described as fair condition using the same photo) yet again it is not the one you will recieve

1942 was described as great condition and NOT mint again.

dragon warrior is again described as great condition and not mint


Wait a second. Inthe Marble Madness listing, you said that it was ok to misrepresent the item in the listing header, because you use a real picture which shows what they are actually getting.
Now, you say that the auctions that Daria showed us are not accurate because the picture is not the actual product they are getting, it's the game in the header that they will receive...

Which is it? Or is it whichever fits your latest pike of BS?

[raregamergirl]

I am lazy? I dont do the listings. How would you like to pay people $20 an hour to take photos of games that you already have photos of? Probably would not like that too much. Especially when you can just click relist and change certain things that need changed. I can give you links to others of it sold that do NOT describe those as mint if you like

I am still wrong? How so might I ask? I will be posting pictures of ALL the games in question to a file tomorrow for all to view and they can see for themselves the actual items up.

[devils advocate]

Oh, and the song Sara by Starship does not represent her very well. I would probably use "Round and Round" by Ratt.

[pseudonym]

RGG: The only problem is that you don't say that its in great condition in the title; you clearly say either "mint" or "rare" or a combination of the two in most of your auctions. You only say great condition or whatever in the desciption.

It's still very much misleading and lazy on your part.

[raregamergirl]

No, what I said was that I use actual photos and not stock photos and the pictured item will ALWAYS be the item recieved OR in better condition. For example, I had 2 marble madness games. 1 was perfect, 1 was not so I pictured the not perfect one so the buyer has lower expectations that what they will recieve. 1 of the 2 people WOULD recieve the torn manual version. actual photos are used for items that are necessary (for example a truly hard to find title. generally only for complete titles. I do not change the photos for disk only games either, I just crop out the manual and the case.
The photo either represents the item you WILL recieve OR you will recieve one BETTER than pictured. never the other way around, ever.

[Daria]

Relists? So... you've already said that your employees use templates to list your games. And if these are all relists... then the original listings still said mint on them?

Let me double check my logic. Completed listings:

Harvest Moon 2
http://cgi.ebay.com/Harvest-Moon-2-Game-Boy-Color-GBC-Mint-VERY-Rare-RPG_W0QQitemZ250022901568QQihZ015QQcategoryZ62053Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Elmo
http://cgi.ebay.com/Elmos-Number-Journey-Nintendo-64-N64-Rare-MINT-Kids_W0QQitemZ250022882990QQihZ015QQcategoryZ62053 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Elmo Again
http://cgi.ebay.com/Elmos-Number-Journey-Nintendo-64-N64-Rare-MINT-Kids_W0QQitemZ250025174380QQihZ015QQcategoryZ62053 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



And now for some more crappy looking NES games.

Is that manual missing the cover?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Metal-Gear-Nintendo-Nes-Mint-In-Box-MIB-Rare-Classic_W0QQitemZ250028338395QQihZ015QQcategoryZ62 053QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Yet another shitty looking manual
http://cgi.ebay.com/Powerball-Sega-Genesis-Complete-Like-New-MINT-Rare_W0QQitemZ250028970566QQihZ015QQcategoryZ62053 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Damaged box & damaged manual. But that's ok cause the cart is minty.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Legend-Of-Kage-Nintendo-NES-Complete-Mint-Like-New_W0QQitemZ250029196661QQihZ015QQcategoryZ62053Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I seriously doubt it originally retailed in this condition.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Dr-Chaos-Nintendo-NES-Complete-Mint-Rare-Like-New-MIB_W0QQitemZ250029215236QQihZ015QQcategoryZ62053Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[raregamergirl]

You did not find the other versions of those games. you ONLY found the ones labelled as mint. I have everything saved in turbo lister so you can just relist the items. do you honestly think all the harvest moon 2's or elmo's look like that? hell no. none do. its an old stock photo I used.

check metal gear, again it is a photocopied manual that is not even in the title and is a throw in for free

powerball is described as GREAT condition and NOT mint. it is a stock photo anyways

legend of kage was a relist from the NON mint version I had up. again though it is described as great condition

dr chaos also used a stock photo. although it is labelled as great condition, the one up is actually a mint condition one. I can provide the collector who it was purchased from and you can ask them for themselves if you like.

[devils advocate]

No, what I said was that I use actual photos and not stock photos and the pictured item will ALWAYS be the item recieved OR in better condition. For example, I had 2 marble madness games. 1 was perfect, 1 was not so I pictured the not perfect one so the buyer has lower expectations that what they will recieve. 1 of the 2 people WOULD recieve the torn manual version.


So you only screw one out of the two. Those are good odds for the buyer.

[raregamergirl]

How so exactly? Both buyers are EXPECTING a torn manual?
Email the person who bought it and ask them for yourself
I already did
They will get something BETTER than they purchased!

[devils advocate]

powerball is described as GREAT condition and NOT mint. it is a stock photo anyways


Powerball Sega Genesis Complete Like New MINT Rare





What body cavity do you pull your posts from?

[raregamergirl]

the thing with ebay is always check the photo and always check the description. if you are not sure, email the seller.
there is no confusion as everything you have provided is either a stock photo or described as great condition. if anything, the buyer will recieve something better than what they are expecting. if you picture something in slightly less condition than what you actually mail them, they will be pleased.
again, CHECK the description and the picture and if insure, always email the seller.

[bangtango]

Follow enough Ebay transactions from ANY seller and I think you'll see that every last seller out there has some faults. It could be:

-bad grammar or spelling in an item description or title
-misleading titles
-inflated shipping (either on purpose or due to laziness from listing multiple items)
-slow shipping
-slow response to emails or no response at all
-shitty return policy
-shitty feedback habits
-rude replies in emails or being rude to potential buyers in an actual listing
-items categorized wrong
-items with high starting bids or BIN's
-hard to see pictures (bad lighting, bad view of item, etc.)
-sellers who never take good days/times to list or end an auction into account (i.e. 3 AM on a Thursday morning in the eastern US)
-sellers who use 7 full days for items that don't need it or a couple days for an item that could run for 7

I just don't see why people are after this one member, in particular. I bet one or two people could get together and come up with some flaws (big or small), or outright dirt, on pretty much any Ebay seller who inhabits this board or any other board.

[devils advocate]

the thing with ebay is always check the photo and always check the description. if you are not sure, email the seller.
there is no confusion as everything you have provided is either a stock photo or described as great condition. if anything, the buyer will recieve something better than what they are expecting. if you picture something in slightly less condition than what you actually mail them, they will be pleased.
again, CHECK the description and the picture and if insure, always email the seller.




Not Recommended! Non working game described as new, no refund in 3 months...etc
Buyer josemanuelmexico( 24) Sep-13-06 06:26 104753645338

Item is not "mint like new" , it was very dirty and took a few tries to work.
Buyer mike-9882( 9 ) Sep-08-06 12:03 250022947985

never received game, waited 3 weeks and filed claim with paypal, money returned
Buyer seajoedoo( 52) Sep-07-06 19:28 250014093461

Item not received. Tried to work with seller. Had to get refund thru Pay Pal.
Buyer toskate( 2 ) Sep-06-06 14:56 104753644952
Reply by raregamergirl: I REFUNDED them by choice through paypal! Item bounced back to me undeliverable Sep-06-06 15:42
Follow-up by toskate: No item. 3 emails-nothing, dispute reso.-nothing, claim filed -refund, go figure Sep-08-06 18:37

Shipped wrong product at first, but eventually got things straightened out.
Buyer chrisspurgeon( 20) Sep-06-06 09:09 250013885468
Reply by raregamergirl: User recieved a different gamecube system package, corrected immediately Sep-06-06 09:34

Never recieved product but did resolve issue,
Buyer unixpuke( 20) Sep-06-06 08:05 250010839394
Reply by raregamergirl: User claimed to not recieve item so I refunded him in full! Showed reciept forPO Sep-06-06 09:02

Prompt Delivery - But item arrived damaged, poorly wraped
Buyer bonx02( 31) Sep-06-06 03:05 250016891866
Reply by raregamergirl: this item was bubble wrapped securely then put into a secure mailer Sep-06-06 09:02

disk was scratched, game stopped functioning after minimal progression
Buyer wongkr( 7 ) Sep-05-06 23:16 250015241124
Reply by raregamergirl: Item worked perfect when mailed with no scratches, user never emailed me at all Sep-06-06 09:03

game and case were not "mint" as quoted. quick delivery though.
Buyer bzachariah( 14) Sep-04-06 16:11 250020046936

never got games, gave plenty time to give reply back never heard them,no money b
Buyer paul8994( 9 ) Sep-03-06 20:44 104751425913
Reply by raregamergirl: user purchased ONE GAME. He DID recieve it and I have tracking to show as much Sep-03-06 21:10

Book isn't in great condition, wasn't packaged well like stated in description
Buyer 517mark( 42) Sep-02-06 11:41 250021900839
Reply by raregamergirl: Wrapped ENTIRELY in bubble wrap securely then put into secure mailer Sep-02-06 11:55

Only recieved one of two items in listing, the other got lost in the mail.
Buyer supercollectorairplanes( 26) Sep-01-06 10:33 250017615875

it has been 7 weeks since the payment was sent and still no item
Buyer hollienme( 1 ) Aug-31-06 22:03 280006160802
Reply by raregamergirl: User in canada,their echeck cleared 3 weeks ago,item mailed 2 days later airmail Aug-31-06 22:38

item fine-arrived nearly 3wks after paid-said mailed on 15th-postmarked 28th
Buyer tow1964( 23) Aug-31-06 18:51 250015613794
Reply by raregamergirl: item was mailed then bounced back to me marked undeliverable, remailed same day Aug-31-06 22:41

item never arrived, had to get refound. no feedback at all worst ebayer ever
Buyer xiorix( 23) Aug-30-06 03:16 250001443222
Reply by raregamergirl: he lives overseas,mailed items,showed proof.said they didnt arrive,gave refund Aug-30-06 07:19

item never arrived, absolutely no feedback, had to get refound from paypal
Buyer xiorix( 23) Aug-30-06 03:12 260001422039
Reply by raregamergirl: Item arrived,I have proof they signed for it at customs,refunded in full anyways Aug-30-06 07:23

not in excellentcondition as advertised
Buyer menelach( 5 ) Aug-29-06 17:50 250017616051
Reply by raregamergirl: User apparently expected boxes/ manuals CLEARLY not included! items as described Aug-29-06 18:23

PAID AND NEVER GOT GAME. LIVE IN THE SAME ZIP CODE. POOR EBAYER!
Buyer keith90664( 255) Aug-28-06 18:51 250016763255
Reply by raregamergirl: Ridiculous lying user, have proof it did arrive. The buyer DID recieve game Aug-28-06 20:05
Follow-up by keith90664: SHOW ME THE PROOF!! SELLER WILL NOT ANSWER EMAILS. DO NOT BUY FROM!! Aug-29-06 02:46

Just received product. It plays very well, but isn't what I originally expected.
Buyer gryphonclaw1805( 7 ) Aug-26-06 19:59 250018682341

game works good, shipping took a while tho...
Buyer boph82( 21) Aug-26-06 06:31 250017416030

Packaging arrive torn, game could have easily fallen out and gotten lost.
Buyer supercollectorairplanes( 24) Aug-25-06 12:36 250020058804


never rec'd item; return s/h not paid; refund after filing PayPal complaint
Buyer newjewels4me( 31) Aug-25-06 06:27 280008830812
Reply by raregamergirl: User did recieve same game for diff system, returned it,i refunded them in full Aug-25-06 08:00
Rating Mutually Withdrawn: Buyer and seller mutually agreed to withdraw feedback for this item. Learn more. Aug-26-06 09:55
Fast shipping. Game works fine though not "gem mint" as advertised.
Buyer k-lindo( 106) Aug-24-06 08:57 250013914193

Not mint like stated, one disc damaged and needs fixing, mostly works though
Buyer frozents( 7 ) Aug-22-06 16:22 250016208750


Payment made promtly but merchandise was long time and coming!
Buyer janjones73( 2 ) Aug-21-06 17:16 250016234820




Really.

[qbertandernie]

back on topic...i realized i didnt really wiegh in!

Mint to me means like new, but not new. 'very good' 'excellent' 'great' - these terms are open to interpretation. Mint is not so...but noone seems to think that but me and several DP members whose ebay names i dont know, which is why i very rarely buy anything from ebay.

[pseudonym]

Buyer beware I guess. When you get a message from someone about condition do you come clean and say that your pictures are old reused/stock photos? Do you provide new photos?

And I'm out of this topic now... someone should get this closed because we are all just round and round over the same thing here.