Scramble (360) gets a 4.5 on IGN?? (A rant)

[diskoboy]

WTF!!?? I'm sorry, but their arcade reviews are really starting to piss me off. Time Pilot (another classic) barely gets a 5.

IGN is rating them on a scale that they would use on any regular 360 game release.

I don't think thats necessarily fair, since Scramble has been around since 1981. This game is/was a classic. Of course the grafx suck - it was 1981 for christs sake! This game spawned so many others, it's pathetic! Sure they may be short or repetitive. That's whay they are ARCADE games... They are only supposed to be played for several minutes at a time - not several hours.

But a 4.5?? That's almost offensive. The gameplay alone should at least give it an 8. Minimum. Graphics on older games should not be judged. Of course they're awful! That's their charm!

[c0ldb33r]

I agree - they should use a different rating scale for the classic arcade games. I was shocked when Time Pilot scored so low. I still love playing that game via GBA Namco Arcade Classics - it's a permanent fixture in our bathroom!

[Lady Jaye]

Don't you mean Konami Arcade Advanced for the GBA? ;)

[Ascending Wordsmith]

I don't consider classic games to terrible or awful graphics. If I review game that was made in the mid to late 80's, I review the visuals as I would see them in that period.

With all the graphical bliss going around these days, I could, with all seriousness, say that a game like Ivan Stewart's Super Off Road has great visuals. I don't hold the passing of time against a game.

But yeah, I agree with you that arcade classics don't always get a fair shake.

[Neo Rasa]

Of all the Live Arcade offerings they could give a low score to, I'm surprised they did so for the one that basically spawned the Japanese horizontal shmup (Konami even choosing it as the first game in the Gradius franchise on the Gradius Galaxies intro). Hell the last level for Gradius Galaxies is basically a big awesome remake of Scramble, as is true in several Gradius installments.

[Gamereviewgod]

IGN is right.

They're not giving ratings for you. Or me. Or anyone else on this forum.

They're rating it for the Madden gamers and 12-year old fanboys. That's their demographic. A kid who grew up with a PS2 as his first console couldn't care less that the game revolutionized the genre or changed the industry. What matters is if the game is fun, and in the face of countless other shooters, Scramble is archaic.

They're charging five bucks for a game even an inexperienced player can get through in less than 10 minutes. The vast majority of their readership won't be back after that.

[diskoboy]

IGN is right.

They're not giving ratings for you. Or me. Or anyone else on this forum.

They're rating it for the Madden gamers and 12-year old fanboys. That's their demographic. A kid who grew up with a PS2 as his first console couldn't care less that the game revolutionized the genre or changed the industry. What matters is if the game is fun, and in the face of countless other shooters, Scramble is archaic.

They're charging five bucks for a game even an inexperienced player can get through in less than 10 minutes. The vast majority of their readership won't be back after that.

I agree the young'uns might not enjoy it as much as us older folk... But a 4.5 is a bit much. According to the reviewer the game sucked - even by 1981 standards. I guess that's what I find annoying.

This game paved the way for games like R-Type, Gradius/Nemesis, Darius, etc..

[NE146]

They're charging five bucks for a game even an inexperienced player can get through in less than 10 minutes. The vast majority of their readership won't be back after that.

Wow.. an inexperienced player can get through Scramble in less than 10 minutes? That's some mighty 3l33t built-in gaming skills and to think it only took me about about 20 years since I couldn't finish it as a kid, but can now as an adult :P

Sign up those people for arcade Defender! Maybe they'll be able to score an extra man in their first 10 plays :D

[s1lence]

I haven't even had a chance to play scramble yet, I'm trying to get in the top 1000 scores on Time Pilot. 1080 as of a couple days ago.

[Ed Oscuro]

Took me quite a while to get through Scamble, but other people have had an easier time with it. One guy beat my weeks-in-the-making highscore in twenty minutes (I've gotten better since then, but...)

Scramble isn't as good overall as Super Cobra - it has worse graphics, a lot more repetition, not as much replay value overall (although I detest those mortar rounds, and do like the maze area of Scramble, which isn't much of a tradeoff if you ask me). But it's just right for a beginner. Considering it was likely the first level-based shooter, it's held up pretty well (you can spot the influence on Gradius pretty easily).

But perhaps the argument should be that it doesn't hold its own compared to other Konami arcade games that could be ported to the 360 - the Thunder Cross games, A-Jax, Xexex, Twinbee Yahoo, Trigon...Gyruss and Juno First, released in 1983, really kick its butt as far as gameplay goes (JF in particular, in my estimation).

I can't imagine it's worse than the GBA port Lady Jaye mentioned - that segmented screen is really pretty terrible.

[s1lence]

I think its funny that I do better at the game with the original graphics as opposed to the redone ones.

[diskoboy]

I still can't make it through those damn narrow tunnels!

:angry: :angry:

[c0ldb33r]

Don't you mean Konami Arcade Advanced for the GBA? ;)
lol fuck

I need my edit button back!!!!! LOL

[Ed Oscuro]

I still can't make it through those damn narrow tunnels!

:angry: :angry:
easy, press forward and back. I don't even bomb the fuel dumps in the first tunnel, I just concentrate on flying right up to them before shooting

[Neo Rasa]

I have to mention the last level of Gradius Galaxies again. It's a huge level and the middle third of it literally IS Scramble, all that's missing is the fuel dumps.


Anyone notice any changes in Frogger? I played it last night and there was an update available for it. Alas, the update did not involve adding the option to use original graphics/sound effects like Digital Eclipse implemented in Time Pilot and now Scramble.

Time Pilot, I find myself playing with the original graphics but with the modified sound.

The redone graphics blow away the "upgraded" version on the GBA though.

[Gamereviewgod]

Alas, the update did not involve adding the option to use original graphics/sound effects like Digital Eclipse implemented in Time Pilot and now Scramble.



The original graphics and sound are in there. You need to go into the options menu before "inserting a quarter" per se. You can't change them once you're playing.

[Neo Rasa]

The original graphics and sound are in there. You need to go into the options menu before "inserting a quarter" per se. You can't change them once you're playing.

Definitely not, the only game setting available for Frogger is the number of lives you start each game with.

[s1lence]

The original graphics and sound are in there. You need to go into the options menu before "inserting a quarter" per se. You can't change them once you're playing.

Definitely not, the only game setting available for Frogger is the number of lives you start each game with.

They are Definitely are there, I played with them on last night and played much better imo.

[Gamereviewgod]

Definitely not, the only game setting available for Frogger is the number of lives you start each game with.

Absolutely an option to change the graphics. Any review should mention it too, like mine here on DP. ;)

[Neo Rasa]

I'm looking at it right now, even prior to "putting in a credit" the only option I get is adjusting the number of lives.

[diskoboy]

I'm looking at it right now, even prior to "putting in a credit" the only option I get is adjusting the number of lives.

Go to the options in the pause menu - while you're playing a game. NOT the main game menu.

It's not accessable from the main menu for some deranged reason.

[Neo Rasa]

I'm looking at it right now, even prior to "putting in a credit" the only option I get is adjusting the number of lives.

Go to the options in the pause menu - while you're playing a game. NOT the main game menu.

It's not accessable from the main menu for some deranged reason.

That's the exact opposite of what Gamereviewgod said though. We'll try again...

SUCCESS! Thanks everyone! :D


What an odd decision though.

[Gamereviewgod]

My fault. I was thinking of another arcade game.

[PDorr3]

they are afraid of all the flamming that would go on when they rate an arcade game higher than say gears of war (which I think is way overrated) or halo 3.

[TheRedEye]

they are afraid of all the flamming that would go on when they rate an arcade game higher than say gears of war (which I think is way overrated) or halo 3.

wow, I didn't know you lived in the future. Tell us more about Gears of War, and why it's overrated. what kind of ratings did it end up getting? we're stuck here in the present where the game doesn't come out for two months, help us out here.