GAMERS UNITE ARTICLE #1: I CALL FOR THE END

[J2games]

Check out the first of the Gamers Unite! articles, we promised something different and Rob's first article is definitely that!

http://www.j2games.com/new/forum.php?address=forum/index.php?topic=93.msg194#msg194

[s1lence]

Wow!!! I agree, something has to change badly in the industry. Inovation is needed badly and EA is one of the larger offenders of the problem. Playstation Magazine has an article about EA this month questioning them about what they are going to the marketplace. Every answer was basically a denial position most likely because of the large revenue that they report every quarter. Gaming isn't what it used to be.

[lendelin]

How should I describe this article diplomatically? It is elistist, dumb, short-sighted babble, nothing else.

[J2games]

while working through our new J2 database and loading in box scans for GC, PS2 and Xbox, I couldn't help but notice the number of Movie tie-in games released for the newer systems. And looking through ANY of the gaming magazines the neutral or poor scores they have received. (let's face it, we know movie tie-in games are, generally speaking, some of the poorer titles out there.)

i have to wonder if Rob's opinion didn't have some truth to it. Has big business entered the videogame world the same way it entered the movie industry? Are they shooting for neutrality so to guarantee a title will sell 'XX' amount of units and make 'XX' amount of money, regardless of whether it's a really good title or not? Has it become more about the stock price then about what gamers truely want?

Will we start seeing "indie" game titles, much like "indie" movies, making the bigger splash? Or will the industry settle for mediocrity?

[gepeto]

Very interesting. I agree with alot of what he says. The industry is just crazy the ea article says it all. The company was buying out and running the companies into the ground forcing them to put out sequel after sequel killing the brand.
Ea got so scared at the comp they bought out the nfl license for an outrageous price now they serious bills to pay. they have to break up the football game so you pay more for the product. I think things are so tight at ea its all or nothing now. It time to cut cut cut. The instruction manuals are the industrys worse. They had the nerve to complain about e3 and lead the charge to have it cancelled basically forgetting where you come from. Stating we will save millions.

When all they had to do was put in the proper management and policys to ensure a positive working environment. Ea killed its catalog of games now really has nothing in the kitty thats is original. Ubisoft was copying ea at first but then had to slow down the rereleases.

The funny thing at first ea looked like a juggarnaut ,the industry format to follow. They are making a killing. Follow their stucture. Now it is all collapsing.
It is the industrys way of checks and balances. I am not sure Ea can recover. With each rerelease the numbers drop until you are for to come up with something new.

Look at a few lost franchises.
burnout
tony hawk
Nba live due to poor development
splinter cell
need for speed
def jam
prince of persia

Take away sequels what do you have?


The real shame is simple games can sell if the innovation is there. It think it use to be at least 18 months between
sequels. That is what happens when profit is the bottom line.

[Sothy]

I stopped paying attention after the bitching and moaning about Gamestop selling used games is ripping of Game companies.

Ya I know blah blah People who play Madden are assholes and they arent hardcore like me with my newest import game about a spiky haired kid on a quest for love in the Drazulon empire...

IF thats the way he feels he can quit bitching he wants the game industry to crash to an end and just pretend it did. Dont ever buy another new game and you dont have to worry about it. No more Can Madden and Tony Hawk cause you to claw your eyes out in rage when some of those worthless dumbass casual players talk about the games they like in public as you hold back the urge to scream at them what idiots they are for not purchasing MUKI TOKO HARISHABII which is like totally unique and awesome.

Plus I wont have to read garbage like this again.

[badinsults]

Whoever wrote that is fucking retarded. Do people really care if the New Super Mario Bros is not very innovative? It is selling millions, because people want high quality 2D platform games. If they release more of them, I say, keep them coming. THere are tons of people who *gasp* really enjoy Madden and Tony Hawk games. What kind of asshole are you to say that they should stop selling it. With the advent of the DS for instance, we have been spoiled by many high quality games that have both unique gameplay and established gameplay. If you don't like a particular game, don't freaking buy it, and don't complain when tons of other people do.

[RCM]

I don't think he's saying folks who play Madden are morons or that all new games suck or anything. This passionate rant is howling without any restriction that we need change, something echoed by the development community time and time again.

Of course there's some good stuff coming out and he acknowledges it. I’m sure this will rub some folks the wrong way but if you concentrate on the underlying message he’s spot on.

[s1lence]

Sorry, my WOW was in the amazing anger that blurb was writen, not WOW he is right. I don't want a game crash , but I think that a change is needed.

[zektor]

I don't really know what to make of this. I think the people that know their games, well, know what to buy. I purchased some choice games quite recently, and they are testament that people really do care about what they do. Some new titles are so innovative, and this is a great thing. Sure, there's a whole lot of crap out there (when HASN'T there been?) but I see the few jewels that are released kind of balance it out.

If you are not happy with today's gaming existence, then do not become a part of it, period. Hunt and collect games of yesteryear (I of course do this too) and be happy. Things will never be the same as they were 10, 20 or 30 years ago...and that's life (and >big< money). Same goes for many other things that are not videogames....

[zektor]

I forgot to add that (while I really do not like Gamestop myself) that this comment is just truly retarded. Bottom line is that the games that people trade in did in fact support the developers when they were ORIGINALLY purchased. So, what this article is implying in essence is that the devs should get royalties AGAIN for the RE-SELL of said title? Why not flame the people that sell their used games on ebay for top dollar because of this? Hey, I sold some old Vic-20 Xonox double-enders to DP a long while back for a good buck....guess I should contact Xonox and give them some of that profit, or I may be pegged as a prick!

[kainemaxwell]

The industry needs to change badly and stop putting out cookie cutter games and try for that little thing called innovation again.

[Daria]

We could start brand new again in 5 or 10 years. Let's get rid of the casuals, the non-believers. I understand we'd be losing a few potential hardcore gamers but that's a risk I'm willing to take

I thought gaming was a hobby. Not a god damn religion. What a fucking nutcase.

[Doom Gaze]

I agreed with most of the stuff he had to say.

Video games have been McDonaldized. Whether you want to face this (although not as forcefully as does the writer) or you want to deny it and play Unreal Tournament 2007: retard++ lol editon, you cannot deny that games are not at all what they once were.

Do I hope the industry dies? No, there will eternally be people, for example, who listen to Top 10 radio stuff, just as there are people who faithfully buy Madden and Medal of Duty every year.

As long as there is enough good content for me, I'll continue to enjoy the good stuff and casuals can enjoy the not-so-good stuff.

[LAGO]

Unreal Tournament 2007: retard++ lol editon.

Is this out yet? If not i'm putting in a preorder.

[Push Upstairs]

We could start brand new again in 5 or 10 years. Let's get rid of the casuals, the non-believers. I understand we'd be losing a few potential hardcore gamers but that's a risk I'm willing to take

I thought gaming was a hobby. Not a god damn religion. What a fucking nutcase.

Amen to that! LOL

But this is a hobby and i think there are alot of people out there who take this hobby *WAY* too seriously.



Honestly, i don't even give a shit about rants like that anymore. Rants about "lack of innovation" always seem to come off like "games today suck, there are lots'o sequels and games in the past were better".

And every single time someone bangs those phrases out on thier keyboard I think about those letters in the early 90's EGM magazines where people had the same complaints during "the golden age".


Here is a form for future video game rants, please insert the correct letter to descirbe the particular era you wish to badmouth.

Games today suck, there is nothing but ______ clones.

A. Space Invader
B. Mascot Platformer
C. Vertical shooter
D. Fighting game
E. GTA

I wish companies were more innovative and would quit making clones of the above mentioned game.

[Ze_ro]

The industry needs to change badly and stop putting out cookie cutter games and try for that little thing called innovation again.
In order to get the companies to stop MAKING cookie-cutter games, the consumers have to stop BUYING cookie-cutter games. Sorry guys, but as long as there's profit to be made in movie-to-game conversions, Madden, and Mario tie-ins, the companies will keep making them. Us old-timers may not like it, but obviously there are plenty of people who do, otherwise we wouldn't have to talk about "changing the industry", because the industry would just change on it's own.

I don't understand what the problem is here, really. There are PLENTY of original games. Frankly, there are probably more original games coming out now than there ever were in the early 80's if only because there are just so many games coming out period. Anyone who's on this board has probably been around long enough to know the general rules of how to tell if a game is crap before even buying it, so excersize that skill. Seek out the original stuff and support the companies and developers that create it. You've got the internet at your disposal if you can't figure it out by looking at the screenshots on the boxes. Let the masses have their Madden and their Tom Clancy games, while you go and buy games like Katamari Damacy and Alien Hominid. There's no reason to force your desires on other people who may actually enjoy playing rehashes.

--Zero

[Emuaust]

While I agree with some of the statements, Anit ea and all that trash,
I have One thing to Say,



SOTHY!!!< you are the man,


That is all.

[Sothy]

y thx u

Zero... I liked Alien Hominid.... but cmon as if Alien Hominid is in any way something new or thinking outside the box.

Its fuckin Metal Slug and you godamn well know it is.

[smork]

I think if EA or Bungie or whoever can make games that sell $100 million+ in the first week then they are damn well going to continue to do it, whether any of us like it or not. Why? Because clearly, plenty of people DO like what's being sold.

As far as newer games being shittier than older games -- have you looked at the N64 library? The PS1? Oh, that's when things got bad, homogenized. Really? How about the NES? 2600? Great classics in all those libraries, but also piles and piles of derivative shit.

Where there is quality, there is hack-created drivel. Same in games as in movies, books, music. It's no different now than 20 years ago.

[Nature Boy]

The loser lost me after the 3rd or 4th profanity. Always a good indicator that you can't properly express yourself, especially in an article about a hobby.

I'd really like to know when the industry was perfect, 'cause it seems that for as long as I can remember there has been something to bitch about. Movie translations used to be the big thing. Now it's sports games of course. Maybe Nintendo and their Mario-itis should be next. Isn't it Zelda XII and XIII (Wii and DS) we're expecting soon?

[Ze_ro]

Zero... I liked Alien Hominid.... but cmon as if Alien Hominid is in any way something new or thinking outside the box.

Its fuckin Metal Slug and you godamn well know it is.
I was thinking more about the idea of releasing a 2D beat-em-up in this day and age when (aside from Metal Slug) the genre is basically dead and buried. Although I guess with the Wii's virtual console and XBLA, some of these old genres are going to be coming back.

--Zero

[digitalpress]

What an utterly horrible column.

I don't even know where to start. The first paragraph was OK but the second leads off with "I'm leaning towards" the game industry should die and immediately follows up with line after line of extremist statements, hardly leaning. And what's with all the censored expletives? It's juvenile - hardly the way I want to be represented as a "hardcore" gamer.

I also happen to disagree. Gaming is my life. While I'm upset that some iconic game characters haven't received proper treatment in recent years (where have you gone, Sonic Team?), others have emerged and flourished (has this guy played anything on the DS lately?). I still look forward to new releases from my favorite franchises.

If this writer has been around from the start, then he must know that this sort of thing has been going on from day 1. We were pissed when Pac-Man appeared on the 2600 but Ms. Pac saved the day. Donkey Kong was dead when the most awful version ever appeared on the Intellivision but guess what? It made a comeback too. A bad game from a popular franchise doesn't spell doom for gamers, just a disappointment that often rebounds or rebirths. You can't just give up on them.

Don't think that because you're a "hardcore gamer" that you're in any different a position as you were 20 years ago. 20 years ago you were playing the games and franchises that were popular in that era. Just because the world has moved on doesn't mean it's all crumbling down. It probably just means you're getting old. Enjoy your old games, embrace and support the new ones that tickle your gaming style (and don't tell me there are none because that means you aren't playing enough) but don't shoo away the industry that you love... the one that makes you passionate enough to write about.

[calthaer]

I'm hopeful that the Steam platform or that manifestogames thing will put a bit of the old "wild west" spark back into video games. But will I stop buying?

Maybe. If there's nothing out there to interest me. I have to admit that it's becoming more and more seldom that I see something that tickles my fancy.

[J2games]

Gamers Unite! responds to some of the comments:

http://www.j2games.com/new/forum.php?address=forum/index.php?topic=93.msg195#msg195

[The Brown Eye]

I can see his perspective on the issue. I don't necessarily agree with all of it, but it's his opinion. However:


I don't think he's saying folks who play Madden are morons or that all new games suck or anything. This passionate rant is howling without any restriction that we need change, something echoed by the development community time and time again.

Of course there's some good stuff coming out and he acknowledges it. I’m sure this will rub some folks the wrong way but if you concentrate on the underlying message he’s spot on.

Why are you pretending you didn't write this article? It's so very very obvious and I'm wondering why you didn't state that. If "what some may class as anger I call passion" is true, and if you are in fact "passionate" about it, then why not defend it here?

[RCM]

I can see his perspective on the issue. I don't necessarily agree with all of it, but it's his opinion. However:


I don't think he's saying folks who play Madden are morons or that all new games suck or anything. This passionate rant is howling without any restriction that we need change, something echoed by the development community time and time again.

Of course there's some good stuff coming out and he acknowledges it. I’m sure this will rub some folks the wrong way but if you concentrate on the underlying message he’s spot on.

Why are you pretending you didn't write this article? It's so very very obvious and I'm wondering why you didn't state that. If "what some may class as anger I call passion" is true, and if you are in fact "passionate" about it, then why not defend it here?

You are the winner! I'm surprised nobody got this sooner. I thought I was well known on DP but I guess not as well as I thought.

I didn't identify myself simply b/c I didn't want "tainted feedback." I didn't want people to go easy or hard on their feedback simply because it was me and so far they haven't.

For instance, I consider Joe (Digital Press) and S1lence friends of mine but they were pretty hard on my work which is "great." I'd rather have folks be honest as opposed to sparing my feelings.

I didn't get into defending the article against each negative post simply b/c I don't have the time or energy. My work speaks for itself and as I mentioned I'll be doing a "Robcast" aka podcast addressing the feedback I've gotten from here and elsewhere while clarifying certain gripes.

[meancode]

No, you just like living in the third person. Come on Rob, just admit it.

[DigitalSpace]

THE ONE, THE ONLY - IN THE THIRD PERSON

Sorry, couldn't resist LOL

[Ed Oscuro]

He might as well ask people to stop eating meat or to all become perfectly fit. You can't change the nature of business, something that's clearly a foreign concept to this d00der.

Game companies should innovate! They should make games that the human brain can't comprehend.
Solution: Game companies need to create games for longtime gamers. Wouldn't be hard, relatively speaking, to use assets from an a-rank title to create a "classic style" game. Right now all that game companies bother to do is throw a halfassed minigame (the shooting minigame from Jade Empire, anyone?) or emulate a game from their archives.


Let's stop Gamestop. Those f*cking bastards. They make their money off the blood of some great (and not so great) developers. They pay nothing to developers when they buy used games for next to nothing and sell them for $5 less than a new title. Piracy may f*ck with developer’s bottom line, but so does Gamestop.
Yes, let's burn the Constitution, too, while we're at it.
Solution: digitial distribution (which I loathe, but it's here to stay). Incidentally, the last time I walked into a GameStop (just last week) I walked out with three freebies. I love my catalogs. I haven't bought anything there in probably half a year.


I wrote this with a smirk as I do just about everything unless otherwise noted. I wouldn't consider myself angry as some have accused. What some may class as anger I call passion.
Yes...elitism and smugness, the hallmarks of a true fanatic...wait, no, that just makes you an asshole.

[badinsults]

Why was RCM unbanned? He is a two bit troll.

[Kid Ice]

Why was RCM unbanned? He is a two bit troll.

He is an 8-bit troll, thank you. :)

I knew RCM wrote the article. I thought he was disowning it.

[lendelin]

My work speaks for itself ...

I'm afraid that is all too true.



...and as I mentioned I'll be doing a "Robcast" aka podcast addressing the feedback I've gotten from here and elsewhere while clarifying certain gripes.

I hold my breath.

Let me be straightforward. These kind of "complaints" about the industry are as old as the industry itself. Your "contribution" is neither something new and refreshing, nor is it intelligent criticism. It falls short on all fronts.

There is valid criticism about phenomena you addressed, and there were very intelligent discussions on this board about the balance of profit and innovation, micro- and macroeconomic aspects thereof, the role of successful franchises for game design and economic structering of the industry.

Your rant is two classes below the 'serious acceptance'-level.

Being provocative is one thing, producing mere short-sighted babble is another thing.

[Push Upstairs]

These kind of "complaints" about the industry are as old as the industry itself. Your "contribution" is neither something new and refreshing, nor is it intelligent criticism.

Quoted for truth.

Lendelin, you've summed up my feelings on the matter quite nicely.

[Nature Boy]

I have a question about the quotes:

"EB and GameStop make basically no money from new product" and "Even though used games are only 30% of GameStop's sales, they generate 45% of gross profits"

How much *is* generated by new games? I realize it wouldn't be 55%, but what is it?

BTW: I love it when an author says "some folks get it while others don't" - like disagreeing with them makes us wrong in some way...

[J2games]

As the first of the Gamers Unite! articles seemed to garner an opinion from everyone, we'd like to let you know articles #2 and #3 are now posted:

http://www.j2games.com/new/forum.php?address=forum/index.php?topic=94.msg196#msg196

and Gamers Unite The Show (G.UT.S.) will be coming to J2Games.com and on Podcast shortly!

Please chime in, tell us what you think!

[petewhitley]

Yawn.

This year's Madden rocks, btw. So there.

[LAGO]

And because i'm usually slow on the things in article three what does IP stand for?

[Push Upstairs]

Internet Protocol! LOL


I believe it is "Intellectual Property".

[Half Japanese]

As the first of the Gamers Unite! articles seemed to garner an opinion from everyone, we'd like to let you know articles #2 and #3 are now posted:

http://www.j2games.com/new/forum.php?address=forum/index.php?topic=94.msg196#msg196

and Gamers Unite The Show (G.UT.S.) will be coming to J2Games.com and on Podcast shortly!

Please chime in, tell us what you think!

I read some of #2 and I've gotta say that RCM just wheels himself out there like he's the second coming of Dave Halverson (but even Dave Halverson shows more restraint these days). What makes magazines like Play easier to stomach than writing like this (when both are targeting the same 'hardcore' demographic) is that Play doesn't feel the need to constantly remind you exactly who it is that they're pandering to, but instead let the writing speak for itself. The casual and Madden gamers won't get anything out of it and will move along to safer waters, wheras all I'm getting out of the pieces above is "HEY MAN I'M ON YOUR SIDE, FUCK THE CORPORATIONS, RAH RAH RAH!" People with a brain will figure out which side to root for regardless of the tenacity of the cheerleaders.

Maybe if the writing weren't so self-serving and showed a true "passion" instead of someone's hunger for attention then there wouldn't be so much negative feedback so far. The fact that a podcast is taking place in order to commemorate the feedback from this "article" says all you need to know: someone wasn't afraid to jerk off their own ego for a little bit.

[RCM]

As the first of the Gamers Unite! articles seemed to garner an opinion from everyone, we'd like to let you know articles #2 and #3 are now posted:

http://www.j2games.com/new/forum.php?address=forum/index.php?topic=94.msg196#msg196

and Gamers Unite The Show (G.UT.S.) will be coming to J2Games.com and on Podcast shortly!

Please chime in, tell us what you think!

I read some of #2 and I've gotta say that RCM just wheels himself out there like he's the second coming of Dave Halverson (but even Dave Halverson shows more restraint these days). What makes magazines like Play easier to stomach than writing like this (when both are targeting the same 'hardcore' demographic) is that Play doesn't feel the need to constantly remind you exactly who it is that they're pandering to, but instead let the writing speak for itself. The casual and Madden gamers won't get anything out of it and will move along to safer waters, wheras all I'm getting out of the pieces above is "HEY MAN I'M ON YOUR SIDE, FUCK THE CORPORATIONS, RAH RAH RAH!" People with a brain will figure out which side to root for regardless of the tenacity of the cheerleaders.

Maybe if the writing weren't so self-serving and showed a true "passion" instead of someone's hunger for attention then there wouldn't be so much negative feedback so far. The fact that a podcast is taking place in order to commemorate the feedback from this "article" says all you need to know: someone wasn't afraid to jerk off their own ego for a little bit.

The whole point of article 2 was simply to show what my aim for the column is. It was neither meant to be self serving or a call for attention, although the more readers the better.

Right now I have a few podcasts in the works, the first exploring the aim of GUTS and then clarifying what I thought was pretty clear in the first article. before the first article was posted it was always my aim for the podcast to address feedback and even expand on what was already written as well as producing exclusive audio only content.

I don't expect people to take to me instantly but I hope to change folks minds in the future. What started out as a hobby writing about games for gamers has turned into a full time deal where I've been involved in print, television, web, and other industry stuff.

I've always kept it real for true gamers and ultimately I serve all of you whether you hate me or not. If gaming is in your heart and you know it's real I'm here for you.

I know I'll always have my share of enemies, esp. around these parts, but to everyone else I ask is to give GU! a chance and accept that my intentions are good natured and truly selfless. I truly regret that I came off any other way.

[Niku-Sama]

Unreal Tournament 2007: retard++ lol editon.

Is this out yet? If not i'm putting in a preorder.

no its not out yet, but you can preorder it.

you know of all the games i have played Unreal Tournament has been the most consistant.

sure they are working on their fourth but the basics of the game is, run arround, shoot people and mabe grab a flag or a ball.

they come out with new ones but the game really doesent ever change as a game, the graphics get an update to better fit new hardware, mabe tweak a few weapons fix a few bugs and make new maps but as a whole its pretty much the same cinsistant thing with minor changes that keep it interesting to me, thats why i like UT.

and the graphics dont really push the hardware, they make it fit the top end hardware thats out currently. they arent out there makin games that are so far out there with the graphical details the biggest supercomputer cant run them. that pisses me off

[Nature Boy]

ultimately I serve all of you whether you hate me or not.

Remember the ego maniac comment? This is what they're talking about. You don't serve me now nor will you *ever* serve me.

Do I hate you? Not at all - I'd actually have to care enough to know you to hate you. You're just a guy on the internet with an opinion. (Just like, you know, *everybody* on the internet...)

I serve myself, by buying what I like. Thanks for the offer though!

[Icarus Moonsight]

I tell developers, as should everyone else, what types of games that I want to play by buying said games. Yeah, I am of the opinion that Madden fans are idiots... just as much as they laugh their collective asses off at me when I go into a game shop and buy a game they would surely say sucks or is sooo old.

Just cause you don't like what they are hawking doesn't mean they shouldn't sell it. Truth is, when it is no longer profitable that is when they will move on. Not one second before.

I'm not pro-Gamestop/EB. Not by any stretch but, please, don't pull that BS on people. It's not piracy so kwitcherbitchin'. Same rule applies here as above. No profit, then they won't sell it. Simple. The very last thing the gaming industry needs is to take a aggresive stance against it's consumers like the RIAA and MPAA have these last 5 or so years.

Vote with your money.

[lendelin]

RCM, I don't question your good intentions, but I have to say it again: the stuff you produced (I wouldn't call it articles) is just plain babble. It is not substantially provocative at all. It isn't about passion or the wrong tone either. It is about the intelligence level.

It seems to me that your ego is a bit too big and your abilities a bit too small.

Don't try to be provocative and produce adolescent simplistic criticism. Try to address and answer questions. You make reality way too simple. Reading your stuff doesn't provoce me to say something about aspects of the industry you barked at. It just gets out of me a bored BLAH.

[Oobgarm]

I gave both of these articles a read, mainly due to the fact that this particular topic was noted as a 'hot' discussion. I probably would have not bothered otherwise.

I perfectly understand the point you're trying to make with your article. But it all comes off as sophomoric. Passionate, yet immature. You might get some folks to rally behind your cause, but do you truly, deeply, in your heart of hearts, believe that this is going to accomplish anything at all, other than provide you with a way to vent your feelings?

The internet is a vast, tremendous vessel for complaining, bitching, moaning, and other such acts. I think your article is drowned out buy the overwhelming din of 'the internet'.

I look at it as one of those online petitions. Sure, they might have a good point, but who is going to take it seriously? The comapny/entity the petition is aimed at? Most likely not.

If you really want to make a difference, and feel good about what you're doing, vote with your money. Then you know that YOU are doing what you feel is right. But understand that the world will continue on course, regardless if you get a small band of 'true gamers' to do the same. Because the general populace cannot and will not understand your stance, regardless of loudly you proclaim it, and they are what drives the retail model of videogames.

I don't mean to knock you personally as a writer or anything like that, my apologies if I have done so. I just don't think the idea is worth the time invested.

[Captain Wrong]

I stopped paying attention after the bitching and moaning about Gamestop selling used games is ripping of Game companies.

Ya I know blah blah People who play Madden are assholes and they arent hardcore like me with my newest import game about a spiky haired kid on a quest for love in the Drazulon empire...

IF thats the way he feels he can quit bitching he wants the game industry to crash to an end and just pretend it did. Dont ever buy another new game and you dont have to worry about it. No more Can Madden and Tony Hawk cause you to claw your eyes out in rage when some of those worthless dumbass casual players talk about the games they like in public as you hold back the urge to scream at them what idiots they are for not purchasing MUKI TOKO HARISHABII which is like totally unique and awesome.

Plus I wont have to read garbage like this again.

I can't add anything to this, so I won't try.

Keep on ragin' against the machine, dude.

[Fuyukaze]

I dont care if RCM wrote it, I just want the past 20 minutes of my life back that I spent reading it. Give it back damnit! It's my time you just wasted on the PoS article! Change happens when enough people want it to. Not before. Want gaming to change? Good luck.

[Sothy]

http://www.gamecootie.com/

You want REAL game journalism read the little snippets by that guy "Sothy" Damn hes good.

[RCM]

http://j2games.com/new/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=7f06e8055acc3c89bb63954012d54c fd&topic=113.0

I just had to bump this back up! There's a new article up that is a bit different from the earlier stuff. ENjoy

[steveant1636]

Gamers Unite! responds to some of the comments:

http://www.j2games.com/new/forum.php?address=forum/index.php?topic=93.msg195#msg195

I only have one thing to say and that is you sir are an ASS!

[Push Upstairs]

I still get the same vibe got from the other articles.

[Nature Boy]

Ooooh, "The mainstream media cannot be trusted!" Got any more brain busters?