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Parpunk
09-26-2006, 12:12 PM
Ok i just beat Bloody Wolf for the Tg 16 and i have to say it is defintly one of the toughest old school shooter games i have played. Now after fighting certain bosses like 40 times in a row i finally worked my way through the game and beat the whole thing. And i have to say it was a really awesome game. Has anyone else ever beat this game, any stories???

rbudrick
09-26-2006, 03:46 PM
I remember beating this game when it was a demo game for the TG16 in a local game store. I don't remember it being that hard....I think I played it over an hour in the store until I beat it. Great Contra clone. Definitely one of the coolest home games I had ever seen at the time. I remember thinking it was really awesome to have graphics that good on a home system.

-Rob

Parpunk
09-26-2006, 05:41 PM
hmmm werid it took me a few hours to beat it. i dunno maybe since it was a demo it wasnt as long. this one had like 8 levels and many mini levels and bosses etc. plus when ya get restarted fighting a boss with no powerup weapons it makes it very hard. and the final boss of the game is pretty insane. but yea it does have pretty sweet graphics.

Neil Koch
09-26-2006, 08:50 PM
I don't recall it as being all that hard except for some of the bosses. But that was back when I was a teenager. I'm sure if I played it now, I would suck at it.

Cool game tho, I especially liked the bits where you rode a motorcycle.

rbudrick
09-26-2006, 10:26 PM
Well, it wasn't a demo demo. It was the rental copy of the real release. But yeah, sure can be a pain in the ass when you lose your weapons.

-Rob

Neo Rasa
09-26-2006, 11:01 PM
I AM A BLOODY WOLF! NO ONE CAN STOP ME!


At the time this game's cutscenes and that storyline twist halfway through were totally awesome. I still love this game to death. It's probably my favorite US HuCard.

Neo Rasa
09-26-2006, 11:03 PM
Great Contra clone.

:/

I'd say it's much closer to Ikari Warriors, Heavy Barrel, Mercs, etc.

AlexKidd
09-27-2006, 06:50 AM
Bloody Wolf is an awesome game and one of my fave turbo hucards. I beat it once and while I wouldn't consider it a hard game overall the last boss was crazy. Here, we have a game where you're shooting stuff throughout the whole game and then they expect you to kill the hardest boss without your gun. Took me more times than i'd care to count. I play through the game a lot now but stop before i get to that boss. I believe it's in my Turbo Express right now.

rbudrick
09-27-2006, 12:03 PM
I'd say it's much closer to Ikari Warriors, Heavy Barrel, Mercs, etc.

Sure, but many later Contra games had overhead scenes along with the side scrolling stuff....The jumping distiguishes it from IW, HB and others like it, makijng it more Contra-like.

-Rob

Parpunk
09-27-2006, 12:21 PM
yea i know the last boss is crazy hard. spinning al over the scree with all those holograms and stuff. pretty insane at the end. and yea the cutscenes and twist at the end is awesome too. :)

starsoldier1
09-28-2006, 03:00 AM
Did you see both endings as well? I know each guy has their own slightly different ending here so there is a reason to play it again.

Pente
09-28-2006, 11:29 AM
Ok i just beat Bloody Wolf for the Tg 16 and i have to say it is defintly one of the toughest old school shooter games i have played. Now after fighting certain bosses like 40 times in a row i finally worked my way through the game and beat the whole thing. And i have to say it was a really awesome game. Has anyone else ever beat this game, any stories???

Heck yeah we used to beat that game EVERY DAY when I was in college (1991 or so). The guys would come home in our frathouse, choose the bald character who beared a SUPER STRIKING resemblence to our roommate Kevin.. who was also a military guy so it was really funny.

Anyway, we'd play "Kevin", play through the game and hail America babeey. This was a daily ritual for almost all the guys in our frat.. saving the hostages and showing those commies the American way LOL

Pente
09-28-2006, 11:31 AM
Oh and for some reason we only referred to the game as "Bloody Cunt". So that's what I call the game up to this day. Oh well :P

Neo Rasa
10-02-2006, 03:32 AM
I'd say it's much closer to Ikari Warriors, Heavy Barrel, Mercs, etc.

Sure, but many later Contra games had overhead scenes along with the side scrolling stuff....The jumping distiguishes it from IW, HB and others like it, makijng it more Contra-like.

-Rob

But half the power-ups, etc. come straight from Data East's own Heavy Barrel, the final bosses are extremely similar (not lost on the third game Data East did of this type, Thunder Zone/War in the Gulf), I'm not drawing the comparison just based on it having an overhead perspective. I'd consider them as close together as I do the games in Capcom's Badasses that Strafe Trilogy (Section Z/Side Arms/Forgotten Worlds).

Also if by "many later Contra games" you mean three then I agree. ;)

Neo Rasa
10-02-2006, 03:39 AM
I'd say it's much closer to Ikari Warriors, Heavy Barrel, Mercs, etc.

Sure, but many later Contra games had overhead scenes along with the side scrolling stuff....The jumping distiguishes it from IW, HB and others like it, makijng it more Contra-like.

-Rob

But half the power-ups, etc. come straight from Data East's own Heavy Barrel, the final bosses are extremely similar (not lost on the third game Data East did of this type, Thunder Zone/War in the Gulf), I'm not drawing the comparison just based on it having an overhead perspective. I'd consider them as close together as I do the games in Capcom's Badasses that Strafe Trilogy (Section Z/Side Arms/Forgotten Worlds).

Also if by "many later Contra games" you mean three then I agree. ;)

rbudrick
10-02-2006, 10:56 AM
But half the power-ups, etc. come straight from Data East's own Heavy Barrel, the final bosses are extremely similar (not lost on the third game Data East did of this type, Thunder Zone/War in the Gulf),

Wow, really? I never made the connection with the power ups or bosses. Weird! I never played TZ/WitG...any good?

BTW, even though Bloody Wolf is a shooter and not a beat em up, it does remind me of P.O.W quite a bit for some reason.

Weird side note: POW was the first arcade game I ever beat. Heavy Barrel was the second.

-Rob

Neo Rasa
10-02-2006, 01:23 PM
Wow, really? I never made the connection with the power ups or bosses.

Yeah much like the Capcom games I mentioned and something like, say Taito's Sky Shark/Fire Shark/etc. variants they make great companion games to each other. With IMO the Ikari Warriors games being the biggest influence on Heavy Barrel.

Heh, the main running theme in those Data East games are Jackasses with Jet Packs (not even Midnight Resistance and Sly Spy are immune to this epidemic) and hexagonal tanks. :D

So these make great companion games to each other:
Heavy Barrel
Bloody Wolf
Thunder Zone


Thunder Zone is VERY good but has extremely cheap difficulty. At the default settings you weapons do pitiful damage even to the weakest of normal soldiers. In addition there are several vehicles you can get into at points but they have so little vitality you often have to get out almost the second after you get in them.

Excellent soundtrack and graphics though (the running animation is actually identical to Bloody Wolf's too). A real quarter muncher. Plus it's one of those "every single object that exists EXPLODES" games, even office furniture. Lots of graphical details too like the portrait of your guy by your life meter changing depending on how much life they have, whether or not they're on fire, etc.

Even stuff like a chair takes like six or seven shots to "detonate" though, and as you lose life you move more slowly. ARG. There's four characters to choose from but they have identical attributes, it just affects what their starting weapon is. No jumping either.


Also one of the weapons, the "Anti-Tank Gun" has to be charged up to be most effective. When a fully charged shot is fired it looks exactly like HEAVYYY BARREL! :D

AlexKidd
10-03-2006, 04:41 AM
How about Last Alert? Any of you guys ever play that one? It reminded me a lot of Bloody Wolf. Not sure if it was made by the same company but it could've been a sequel to the game based on the way it looks and plays. And it was also a cd game so it had somewhat better music/graphics along with some cheesy old school cutscenes.

Parpunk
10-03-2006, 10:38 AM
woah i never played that one. is it for the turbografx cd??? is it any good?

Xexyz
10-04-2006, 12:33 AM
This site says Last Alert was made by Telnet Japan (aka Renovation as their U.S. publishing title), although like most 3rd party TG titles, this one was published and localized by NEC themselves.

Anyway, Bloody Wolf is just a stupendous looking game. I've been a fan of Heavy Barrel and Data East in general for some time now. If I ever get my hands on a TG-16 I'll splurg some dough for this game ASAP.

Neo Rasa
10-04-2006, 01:12 AM
Last Alert ROOOOOCKS.

Every boss encounter..."GUY KAZAMA!!!!!" I thought you were dead, time for revenge, etc. for five minutes before the boss fight itself which is invariably like ten seconds long. Not a lot of music but it's all very catchy.

The cutscenes are totally rad. The game is basically Bloody Wolf but with better graphics and sound (somewhat odd alternate weapon selection system though, it's kind of like Valis IV except you don't get to cycle through an "inventory" of them, they just get used up in whatever order you got them). I ripped the soundtrack a while ago if anyone's got space to host them on.

Note that the Japanese version is called Red Alert if you want to save some money by getting that.

Graham Mitchell
10-09-2006, 07:03 PM
I had heard at one point that Bloody Wolf actually is Heavy Barrel II, essentially. Anybody else heard different?

Damaramu
10-09-2006, 07:57 PM
Last Alert ROOOOOCKS.

Every boss encounter..."GUY KAZAMA!!!!!" I thought you were dead, time for revenge, etc. for five minutes before the boss fight itself which is invariably like ten seconds long. Not a lot of music but it's all very catchy.

The cutscenes are totally rad. The game is basically Bloody Wolf but with better graphics and sound (somewhat odd alternate weapon selection system though, it's kind of like Valis IV except you don't get to cycle through an "inventory" of them, they just get used up in whatever order you got them). I ripped the soundtrack a while ago if anyone's got space to host them on.

Note that the Japanese version is called Red Alert if you want to save some money by getting that.

Yeeesss!!! Last Alert was one of my favorites! The boss encounters were hillarious! My favorite quote (can't remember which boss said this): Guy Kazama!! Ahm gunna deestroy yew! *horribly Southern accented LOL