Messiah to come out with a wireless NES Advantage clone....

[GarrettCRW]

....with a catch.

Make that a big one.

The NES Advantage clone. (http://www.playmessiah.com/products/nex-astick.htm)

That's right, kids: unlike the other Messiah NES controllers, this one won't actually work on an NES, just the less-than-beloved NEX.

*is speechless*

[Phosphor Dot Fossils]

I wonder if it'd work with the wireless receiver from the Messiah NES controllers. It could be that it works just fine, but isn't shipping with a receiver. The reason I'm thinking this is this blurb:

Wireless Range: Up to 30 feet range using the built-in 2.4GHz wireless technology that comes standard on the Generation NEX Videogame Console.
If the Messiah joypads work with "the built-in 2.4GHz wireless technology that comes standard on the Generation NEX," why wouldn't this also work with the joypads' receiver?

[c0ldb33r]

OMG, I wish that worked with real NES's, because that is a damn sexy controller!!! @_@

A little expensive though, I'd prefer to just shine up an actual Advantage.

[heybtbm]

I was all ready to buy this until I saw that it doesn't work on an original NES. Sorry Messiah, you just lost a sale.

[XYXZYZ]

THAT is one slick item.

http://www.playmessiah.com/images/products/nexastick/NEX_wireless-arcade.jpg

It's larger than the NES Advantage (8x11) and the controls are microswitch based unlike the NES Advantage's carbon-dot style switches. Most likley cheap acade parts, I doubt they're putting Happ's hardware in there. I like microswitch controls for arcade games, but not for NES games; I prefer the softness of the carbon dot controls there. I think I'm going to wait and see if retail stores carry it before droppiong $60 on this one.

I wonder if I could modify it to work on an NES... and... oooh, imagine that on a PC Engine!

[c0ldb33r]

I wonder if I could modify it to work on an NES... and... oooh, imagine that on a PC Engine!
Excellent idea! Blazing Lazers on that thing would rock! :D

[Hounder]

Meh, too expensive for a controller.

[kainemaxwell]

Very sexy look, shame most people won't buy it since it won't work on a real NES. :(

[rbudrick]

That's right, kids: unlike the other Messiah NES controllers, this one won't actually work on an NES, just the less-than-beloved NEX.

*is speechless*http://www.buzzhumor.com/images/36/chris_farley_paul_mccartney01-tn3c9c53.jpg

Stupid, Stupid Stupid!

-Rob

[XYXZYZ]

I wonder how many people are going to buy a NEX just to use this joystick.

[playmessiah]

Hello Everyone,

Just wanted to set the record straight… The Generation NEX Wireless Arcade Stick WILL work with the Original NES. If you already own our Wireless Controllers the same receivers will work for the Arcade Stick as well. If you don't own the wireless controllers we will be offering receivers for sale on the website soon.

Thanks for Supporting Messiah Entertainment, Inc.

[slip81]

well I guess he just shut us all up :embarrassed:

[MarioMania]

Will the Saterlite Reciver work..

I'm buying one when the price drops

[Eldergod]

Previous owners of the Limited Edition Wireless NES Controllers will be happy to discover that the Wireless Arcade Stick is also compatible with original NES consoles with use of the Messiah Entertainment 2.4GHz receiver that came with their Limited Edition controllers (now sold out).

Wow I dint know that the owner of messiah posted here. Good stuff...

Anyway I bought the original messiah wireless controllers (both nes and snes) and they are absolutely spectacular.

[GM80]

Is that gray box-like portion the base of the stick? I thought it was a shadow or something at first glance.

If it is that thick it's got nothin' on the NES Advantage for lap use, despite what the upper surface looks like.

[heybtbm]

Hello Everyone,

Just wanted to set the record straight… The Generation NEX Wireless Arcade Stick WILL work with the Original NES. If you already own our Wireless Controllers the same receivers will work for the Arcade Stick as well. If you don't own the wireless controllers we will be offering receivers for sale on the website soon.

Thanks for Supporting Messiah Entertainment, Inc.

Well, that settles it...I'm buying one.

[Push Upstairs]

I wish there were some 2.4 Sega wireless controllers. Saturn and Genesis would be nice.

The wireless Xbox controller i have has done nothing but spoil me.

[playmessiah]

Previous owners of the Limited Edition Wireless NES Controllers will be happy to discover that the Wireless Arcade Stick is also compatible with original NES consoles with use of the Messiah Entertainment 2.4GHz receiver that came with their Limited Edition controllers (now sold out).

Wow I dint know that the owner of messiah posted here. Good stuff...

Anyway I bought the original messiah wireless controllers (both nes and snes) and they are absolutely spectacular.

For those of you interested there are still some of our Limited Edition Wireless NES Conrollers at www.pinkgodzillagames.com/store/ and the are also an excelent place to get Famicom Games.

Brad

[n8littlefield]

I'm sorry - I know that you actually have faith in your souped-up NOAC setup - but selling a wireless controller without the receiver is low. I mean, seriously - for $60 you can get two wireless gamepads with receivers or one of these and NO receiver? Thanks but no thanks.

Oh, but at least it's emblazed with the logo of the Generation NEX :/

[playmessiah]

Is that gray box-like portion the base of the stick? I thought it was a shadow or something at first glance.

If it is that thick it's got nothin' on the NES Advantage for lap use, despite what the upper surface looks like.

The gray box is not a shadow it is actually the housing for all the electronics. This is the smallest it can go using arcade style micro switches. It is a wooden cabinet that works quite well in the lap. In fact it works much better than the NES Advantage because our laps are not as small as they once were when we were kids... :)

[rbudrick]

PinkGodzilla is a cool site, thanks PM! I hope Toho doesn't know about them, though, as they send to sue the living hell out of everyone that even thinks about saying the word Godzilla. Remember when Austin Powers kept going on about how that big lizard looks like Godzilla, "But it's not." He was poking fun at Toho. I was laughing my ass off at that, but only one of my other friends who watched it got the joke. LOL

-Rob

[exit]

Wow, Messiah is still around and people are still buying their products? This week keeps on getting more and more interesting.

[bangtango]

Wow, Messiah is still around and people are still buying their products? This week keeps on getting more and more interesting.

My question is where did some of the earlier posters get the "information" that these new controllers would not work on a new NES? Half the posts in this thread are before PlayMessiah posted and claim those controllers are incompatible with the NES :roll:

[GarrettCRW]

My question is where did some of the earlier posters get the "information" that these new controllers would not work on a new NES? Half the posts in this thread are before PlayMessiah posted and claim those controllers are incompatible with the NES :roll:

The original item listing implied no compatibility with the NES, hence my starting this thread.

[bangtango]

My question is where did some of the earlier posters get the "information" that these new controllers would not work on a new NES? Half the posts in this thread are before PlayMessiah posted and claim those controllers are incompatible with the NES :roll:

The original item listing implied no compatibility with the NES, hence my starting this thread.

So they changed it after the fact, probably once they caught wind of this thread? My apologies 8-)

[Ed Oscuro]

You guys are both too hard and too easy on PlayMessiah (with some exceptions; PDF gets points for catching that suspect reasoning right away). Should've contacted them asking for clarification instead of running to make the easy post. It IS right to say that there doesn't appear to be any way to get the wireless nubbins without making another purchase.

I bet more people would be interested if there was such a way.

Myself, I'd like the controller if it were wired and substantially cheaper. Wireless can bite me; wireless shit just causes me problems (my dying router, those crappy Philips headphones I got a few years ago...stuff hates me).

[n8littlefield]

You guys are both too hard and too easy on PlayMessiah (with some exceptions; PDF gets points for catching that suspect reasoning right away). Should've contacted them asking for clarification instead of running to make the easy post. It IS right to say that there doesn't appear to be any way to get the wireless nubbins without making another purchase.

I bet more people would be interested if there was such a way.

Myself, I'd like the controller if it were wired and substantially cheaper. Wireless can bite me; wireless shit just causes me problems (my dying router, those crappy Philips headphones I got a few years ago...stuff hates me).

My problem is I would actually be interested, but that price, especially if they are just using arcade buttons, is really pretty high. They did say they'll make the receivers available separately at some point, but I think it's safe to assume if they are expensive enough not to include with the stick that we're talking at least $10 - pushing the price up even higher.

I actually had a pretty high opinion of Messiah when they started with their controllers, and would still love to see them tackle the 6 button Genesis or the Atari 2600 controllers, but they are slowly losing that opinion with their pricing and the fiasco that was the Gen NEX console.

[MarioKartMonk]

I'd love to see a re-release of their SNES controllers, but with a normal plus-style D-pad.

[MarioKartMonk]

I forgot to add. Arcade style switches are the highest quality and most expensive switches. Note that there are two kinds of arcade switches: microswitch and leaf. Generally leaf switches are regarded as the best feeling, though for some reason they are becoming rare in consumer gaming equipment. Microswitches are "clicky" feeling, while leaf switches are silent.

Most home game equipment uses something even cheaper: rubber dome switches. They have a similar feel to leaf switches, but they are not as durable and long lasting.

[Mangar]

The NEX Debacle(Where the company intentionally misled people about the Systems compatibility, and then used those with a vested financial interest in the product to demonize those who brought the issues to light, and attempt to mislead even further) is what gave me a poor opinion of the company.

The pricing on these seems high, but not so high as to where collectors and classic gaming enthusiasts won't purchase them. Which i imagine is the goal. It's right on the cusp of being "ridiculously overpriced." Good marketing.

I hated the Advantage personally. I couldn't imagine playing any NES game with a joystick. So until wireless controllers with a real D-Pad come out, i will save some money.

[DreamTR]

The cost on this thing is HIGH depending on a few things, so those of you attacking the $59.99 need to understand a few things. I am sure they created a new tooling for this product when it was built. That costs a bit of money and investment, which would probably bring the cost up an extra $5-6 per item IF they were only going to make 1,000 of these, AND the tooling was cheap.

Another thing, the arcade parts look like they are Happ. I could be mistaken, but if the stick is Happ like, and more like a Competition or Ultimate Stick rather than a Super, and the buttons utilize cherry switches and are convex, the pricing is going to go up as well. Just looking at the product from the image, one can imagine how much cost went into this, not including the packaging cost and manhours behind it all, so I would fully justify seeing $59.99 as the retail cost.

I also don't think Messiah ever intended to "deceive" anyone over the Generation NEX system. No clone has ever been 100% compatible, and I think everyone assumed the product was going to have the exact sounds and graphics of the NES. If anything, I would love to see some freaking software for the NEX on 60 pin or 72 pin carts. There are tons of developers overseas that make games, and I'm getting a bit antsy wanting to play some new 8-bit games ;)

[n8littlefield]

I just want to bring thread back to say that I have to eat my words a little bit. While I haven't gotten my hands on the wireless Advantage I did just get a Gen NEX and the wireless controllers for an article and if the Advantage is anywhere near the quality build of these than it's probably worth the cash.

While I still am reserving judgement on the NEX's compatibility (I'm working on really checking that out) I will say the quality of the components and controllers is absolutely superb and wouldn't think twice about picking up their controllers at the prices they are asking.

[Tron 2.0]

Hello Everyone,

Just wanted to set the record straight… The Generation NEX Wireless Arcade Stick WILL work with the Original NES. If you already own our Wireless Controllers the same receivers will work for the Arcade Stick as well. If you don't own the wireless controllers we will be offering receivers for sale on the website soon.

Thanks for Supporting Messiah Entertainment, Inc.
Can the joystick be used on the Famicom AV?

I'm just asking becuse i've been looking for a "decent joystick" to use with mine.

[playmessiah]

Can the joystick be used on the Famicom AV?

I'm just asking becuse i've been looking for a "decent joystick" to use with mine.

The Generation NEX Wireless Arcade Stick is compatible with the FAMICOM AV but you will need a receiver. We will include a receiver for FREE if you request one in the notes field of your order.

This goes for our wireless controllers as well. Any customer needing receivers to use with our wireless product on original consoles can get receivers for free by requesting them.

Brad

[omnedon]

double post - sorry

[omnedon]

""While I haven't gotten my hands on the wireless Advantage I did just get a Gen NEX and the wireless controllers for an article and if the Advantage is anywhere near the quality build of these than it's probably worth the cash.


Little late now eh? After having been dragged through the fscking mud by people who did not even have one to evaluate, you'll have to forgive me if if I think it's too fscking little too fscking late to gave it fair treatment now. Where was that sense during the mob 'debacle' as many seem to call it? Good God. That pisses me off more than if you stuck to the blind hate if the thing. You can make a retraction of sorts now, but back when accusations of criminality were casually being thrown around, that sort of common sense would have been nice then. But hey, who wants to stand up to a mob, right?

Yes, the Messiah stick seems like it to too will have a sticker shock effect, but those who actually check it out, rather than mob bash it on the internet site unseen, will likely understand why it's priced the way it is.

Anyone who's handled a Yobo, and handled an NEX, knows what I mean.

[heybtbm]

So I take it that these haven't shipped yet? Has anyone heard anything?

[Tron 2.0]

The Generation NEX Wireless Arcade Stick is compatible with the FAMICOM AV but you will need a receiver. We will include a receiver for FREE if you request one in the notes field of your order.

This goes for our wireless controllers as well. Any customer needing receivers to use with our wireless product on original consoles can get receivers for free by requesting them.

Brad
Thanks for answer i may buy one later on then.

Has any body got one yet to see how it handles?

[heybtbm]

Just an update:

I just received the NEX Advantage this afternoon (Thursday, February 22). It was a little unexpected considering that Messiah never notified me it was shipped. Either way, I'm happy to finally have it.

I haven't had time to try it out yet, but it looks and feels like it's well built. So now I have a big, heavy, wireless NES Advantage...hmm. Now if I could only remember the reason I wanted this in the first place.

[BloodshedPlague]

Is the NEX any good? does anyone own this thing? I only have a top loader and I rather not use the thing. Would the NEX be a reliable replacement?

[rbudrick]

Is the NEX any good? does anyone own this thing? I only have a top loader and I rather not use the thing. Would the NEX be a reliable replacement?


Oh crap, not this again. :D

-Rob

[theoakwoody]

Did anybody write a review for the nex advantage yet? I'm really thinking about buying a pair and making a dedicated cab for super tecmo bowl, baseball stars, blades of steel, etc.. I was thinking about doing an emulator cab using some real NEs Advantages and those USB converters from retrozone but I'd love to use real hardware.