Final Fantasy Proto found ( I think)

[miaandjohnrule]

i found what appears to be a Final Fantasy prototype. I found 2 carts. I know next to nothing about protos and I am curious as to it's worth. It's in good working condition.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/miaandjohnrule/100_1325.jpg
the outside of the cart

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/miaandjohnrule/100_1329.jpg
the insides of the first cart it says
Final Fantasy
PRG - L
E-1 on the EPROMs


http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/miaandjohnrule/100_1330.jpg
This the released version on the left for comparison


http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/miaandjohnrule/100_1331.jpg
the second game seems to look alot like final fantasy in the board but does not work . Looks alot more like a proto though.

[JLukas]

Its value depends a lot on whether there is any differences in the game itself. Can you find any changes such as different graphics, maps, etc.?

The last pic looks like a blank eprom board, there's no chips in the sockets.

[miaandjohnrule]

I just got it yesterday but I am planning on playing it through.

[miaandjohnrule]

I was just trying it out a little , the characters on the cart are close to maxed out and I noticed in the intro screen that their was spelled thier. funny. :D

[50TBRD]

Let's see picture of what your talking about,

[miaandjohnrule]

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/miaandjohnrule/100_1335.jpg

[theshizzle3000]

Where did you manage to find this one at? I am curious because if it is a prototype this has the potential of being pretty big

[miaandjohnrule]

It was a garage sale. :D

[theshizzle3000]

nice...I wish I could find garage sales like that

[MattyXB]

:-P
Congratulation for thie great find. Its my favourite game series. :D

[NESaholic]

Nice find, congrats. :) Let us know if you find more differences.

[theshizzle3000]

Nice Grab dude! Thats a gem right there.

[Hammy]

there's no roms in the second pcb, you won't get anything out of it without any!

[NESaholic]

I have one of those romless carts also. Nice to have but nothing to do with it. If anyone wants it or better yet wants to trade it lemme know.

[c0ldb33r]

Wow what a great find! Congrats! :)

Please keep us updated with whatever other differences there are between that one and the retail version

[miaandjohnrule]

I finally put a few hours into the game, I have seen many small differences. Namely just diffrent names for monsters and some other gramatical things. here are some pics
what is called an imp in the released version
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/miaandjohnrule/100_1607.jpg
the guy says northwest in the release and north here(Castle Cornelia 2nd floor Southwest corner)
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/miaandjohnrule/100_1611.jpg
this is called a creep in the released version. worm is something else.
also note the the backgound in the temple of fiends. this is much diffrent than the columns in the released version
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/miaandjohnrule/100_1618.jpg
the Warwolf is called wrwolf in the release , grgobln is a grImp
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/miaandjohnrule/100_1619.jpg
the Eye is called the OddEye in the released version , eye is something else.
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/miaandjohnrule/100_1623.jpg
The antidote for poison in the release is Pure this is called Cure.
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/miaandjohnrule/100_1620.jpg

[CastNoShadow]

Thanks for adding the gameplay pics. I have been anxious to see some and any notable differences.

[miaandjohnrule]

many more to follow. I'm going to play it through all the way.

[theshizzle3000]

This is still amazing me its cool to see the game still in its basic stages.

[Kamisama]

Great find, especially at a garage sale :) I wish I once have luck like that!

[TheRedEye]

also note the the backgound in the temple of fiends. this is much diffrent than the columns in the released version

Well now, that's interesting, I wasn't expecting anything more than simple localization changes. Does anyone know what this background looks like on the Famicom version?

[ArnoldRimmer83]

Well now, that's interesting, I wasn't expecting anything more than simple localization changes. Does anyone know what this background looks like on the Famicom version?

It looks the same as the US version. The background in that picture actually looks like the one used for the titan's tunnel. I dunno why it would be in the temple in the proto. A bug?

[miaandjohnrule]

It looks the same as the US version. The background in that picture actually looks like the one used for the titan's tunnel. I dunno why it would be in the temple in the proto. A bug?

Correct. The Titan's Tunnel background is the same
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/miaandjohnrule/100_1852.jpg
These are called Wizards in the release
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/miaandjohnrule/100b1832.jpg
These are called Red Gargoyles in the release
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/miaandjohnrule/100_1865.jpg
These are Frost Giant and Wolf in the release
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/miaandjohnrule/100_1858.jpg
The tombstone in elfland
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/miaandjohnrule/100_1631.jpg
same tombstone in released version
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/miaandjohnrule/100b1640.jpg
These are Sorcerers in the release
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/miaandjohnrule/100_1857.jpg
A nice little typo hahahah
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/miaandjohnrule/100_1841.jpg

I've got a ton more differences mostly monster names. Lotsa pics , not sure if I have the time or energy to post them all. enjoy

[jajaja]

Where is the typo?

[Widar]

Best 2007 find to be?
Big congrats! It always amazes me how these things turn up after all those years!

[jajaja]

Best 2007 find to be?
Big congrats! It always amazes me how these things turn up after all those years!

It was actually found months ago :) He just updated with new pics.

[miaandjohnrule]

Where is the typo?


It's Astos no Aatos

[jajaja]

It's Astos no Aatos

Ah ok, i have hardly played FF so i couldnt know :)

[Widar]

It was actually found months ago :) He just updated with new pics.I realized that.. :D

[RugalSizzler]

I am not going to brake anybodys bubble but thee might be the names of the enemies best translated from Japanese to English by a Japanese person from sqaure.

Another thing to look for is mishaped objects. For example Religious figures in the Mother NES game.

[miaandjohnrule]

I am not going to brake anybodys bubble but thee might be the names of the enemies best translated from Japanese to English by a Japanese person from sqaure.



that's exactly what they are.




Another thing to look for is mishaped objects. For example Religious figures in the Mother NES game.


I have looked. There's other differences but they mostly seem to be text differences and typos. There seems to be a slight difference in leveling , I do not have as many hps as the release.

[miaandjohnrule]

Bringing this one back from the dead. I've beated the game a couple of times and really only found typos and text differences. It's different that you actually fight Garland with the Titan's Tunnel background. Here's a few typos from the ending.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/miaandjohnrule/100_1985.jpg

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/miaandjohnrule/100_1988.jpg

[Griking]

Nice find.

Those are also nice pictures. whenever I try to take a picture of my television set I would get all sorts of glare and reflections.

[miaandjohnrule]

Nice find.

Those are also nice pictures. whenever I try to take a picture of my television set I would get all sorts of glare and reflections.

thanks. The pics aren't so hard. I just turn the lights off and turn the flash off.

[Hiryuu]

Wow, that's really cool. Have you getting any thought to lending it to somebody who dumps rare ROMs (who would then send it back to you after it's dumped), so it can be distributed on the internet for others to enjoy? I know others have done this with prototypes before.

[miaandjohnrule]

I have thought about it and decided against doing anything like that.

[intvsama]

This is the first I've come across this thread. I just have to say that's an amazing find there! Can't help but wonder who snuck it out of Nintendo and how it ended up at a garage sale. You should try to track its roots back a little if you can, would be an interesting follow-up.

How far is Everett, WA from Redmond (Nintendo's US home)?

[miaandjohnrule]

not far at all from Redmond. I used to work there. I know where it came from but I'm not really at liberty to discuss it.

[bigbacon]

going to bump this ancient thread but, I just got my hands on, randomly from ebay, a similar copy of the game, not sure if it is the same one posted here.

seeing all the same differencs and what not.

Trying to play through it as well to see if I can catch other differences.

http://chadcarey.com/odd/ffcart0001.jpg
http://chadcarey.com/odd/ffcart0002.jpg
http://chadcarey.com/odd/ffcart0003.jpg
http://chadcarey.com/odd/ffcart0004.jpg
http://chadcarey.com/odd/ffcart0005.jpg
http://chadcarey.com/odd/ffcart0006.jpg