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snes_collector
11-03-2006, 04:54 PM
Ok, I plan on getting a Wii a Metal Slug Anthlogy. I've heard about the "virtual" arcade stick idea, but what I what is a true arcade stick. Since GC controllers work with the Wii, I was wondering, are there any good arcade stick(or whatever the true name is for them) controllers for GC that would work with it?

Thanks a bunch.

Neo Rasa
11-03-2006, 05:10 PM
The only mass produced one you'd come across is the X Arcade, to be honest, it's not all that bad.

Some smart person should make a Neo Geo stick -> Wii adaptor.

The Virtual Console gamepad seems fine but it would definitely be nice to get a good stick.

boatofcar
11-03-2006, 05:52 PM
I have an X Arcade stick, and I can vouch for its quality. They're not that expensive either.

Half Japanese
11-03-2006, 06:12 PM
The only mass produced one you'd come across is the X Arcade, to be honest, it's not all that bad.

Some smart person should make a Neo Geo stick -> Wii adaptor.

The Virtual Console gamepad seems fine but it would definitely be nice to get a good stick.

The X-Arcade site offers game adaptors for the Gamecube, and Gamecube controllers work on the Wii, correct? Unless there's something removing their support from the virtual console, you should be home free. Keep in mind I didn't do actual research here, so by all means find out for sure before you spend the money.

Crazycarl
11-03-2006, 06:22 PM
sweet

atari_overlord
11-03-2006, 06:39 PM
I could be talking completely out of my ass on this but I thought I heard that the GC controllers would not be able to control wii games. Making the retro controller necessary.
Has anyone else read this?

BocoDragon
11-03-2006, 06:45 PM
I could be talking completely out of my ass on this but I thought I heard that the GC controllers would not be able to control wii games. Making the retro controller necessary.
Has anyone else read this?

The retro controller is only necessary if you want to play Virtual Console games and you don't have Gamecube controllers. (and it may only be required for SNES and N64 titles, now that I think about it)

In the case of Metal Slug Anthology specifically (and others, like Smash Bros Brawl), it has been stated on record that Gamecube controllers can be used to play these Wii games.

You also have the option of playing with the Wii controller "NES style", for those classic style games on the Wii.

heybtbm
11-03-2006, 09:33 PM
You want to use a arcade stick?

PS2 version of Metal Slug Anthology + HRAP. There you go.

atari_overlord
11-03-2006, 11:32 PM
I could be talking completely out of my ass on this but I thought I heard that the GC controllers would not be able to control wii games. Making the retro controller necessary.
Has anyone else read this?

The retro controller is only necessary if you want to play Virtual Console games and you don't have Gamecube controllers. (and it may only be required for SNES and N64 titles, now that I think about it)

In the case of Metal Slug Anthology specifically (and others, like Smash Bros Brawl), it has been stated on record that Gamecube controllers can be used to play these Wii games.

You also have the option of playing with the Wii controller "NES style", for those classic style games on the Wii.
This is awesome news. I have a couple of GC pelican real arcade sticks that I enjoy very much.

Beefy Hits
12-14-2006, 01:09 PM
Has it been confirmed whether or not MS Anthology works with GC or the classic controller?

Supposedly it's out today. Anybody in CA get it yet and can confirm if these two controller options work?

itobandito
12-14-2006, 01:50 PM
The only mass produced one you'd come across is the X Arcade, to be honest, it's not all that bad.

Some smart person should make a Neo Geo stick -> Wii adaptor.

The Virtual Console gamepad seems fine but it would definitely be nice to get a good stick.

This gave me a great idea. I have the PS2 version of the Neo Geo Arcade Controller. I also have a PS2 to gamecube controller adapter. Put them together!!! NEO Geo Controller on my WII.

MarkMan
12-14-2006, 03:17 PM
If you can find it, Hori GCN arcade stick. Looks like this:

http://www.hori.jp/cgi-bin/products_detail.cgi?HGC-31

Pretty much the same thing as the SC II stick.

TurboGenesis
12-14-2006, 05:28 PM
Toys r us got the game today. I'm going soon to cancel my reserve at game stop and go pick it up. I'll post with any info I can about control schemes.

Beefy Hits
12-14-2006, 07:08 PM
Posters @ NeoGAF and GameFAQs have confirmed no classic controller support. Worse yet, GC controller option doesn't make use of D-Pad, only analog. That means no Hori pads/sticks or Pelican sticks will work. PSP version, here I come!

TurboGenesis
12-14-2006, 08:06 PM
No classic controller support. GCN controller requires use of analog stick to move character. D-pad only moves selections on menu screens.

Wii controller options include nunchuck RH and LH as well as Wii remote (sideways) RH and LH.

I tried the Hori pad and it would not work as it would not move character. buttons worked, then I plugged GCN controller in and analog would move character.

BocoDragon
12-14-2006, 08:08 PM
Posters @ NeoGAF and GameFAQs have confirmed no classic controller support. Worse yet, GC controller option doesn't make use of D-Pad, only analog. That means no Hori pads/sticks or Pelican sticks will work. PSP version, here I come!

Ouch...... what happen??

Auxilla
12-14-2006, 09:56 PM
I found the Wii Mote Dpad better than using the analog on my Wave Bird.Im shocked they did allow the Classic controller to work with it.The D-pad is much bigger.Also locking out GC Joysticks is stupid.

KingCobra
12-15-2006, 09:04 AM
The Pelican Real arcade "Universal" arcade stick has a mode button to use the stick in anilog mode for just such games, I have it, but no Wii nor Metal Slug game in sight.

But this will be a real bummer if SNKhas gone this route :|

Borman
12-15-2006, 04:48 PM
I thought the game had customizable controls that would help you set up a nice joystick? Oh well :\

geneshifter
12-15-2006, 06:52 PM
WOW. Guess I will not be getting this game after all. What a let down :(

Auxilla
12-16-2006, 04:37 AM
Guys the game is still playable.I understand wanting a arcade stick for the game but it really isnt a deal breaker.

TurboGenesis
12-16-2006, 10:17 AM
Guys the game is still playable.I understand wanting a arcade stick for the game but it really isnt a deal breaker.

Yes the game is great. Metal Slug 6 is awesome. Please don't let the lack of arcade stick use turn you away from this game! I go with the Wii remote NES style(though grenade use is tricky). I am happy to see a good ol fashion 2d action game on today's hardware. Hope more is to come! Thank you SNK Playmore and Wii.

ubersaurus
12-16-2006, 01:45 PM
Don't most arcade sticks these days have an option to switch from digital to analog inputs? I seem to recall mine does.

Try that, and mayhaps it'll work with the cube setup.

TurboGenesis
12-16-2006, 07:43 PM
Don't most arcade sticks these days have an option to switch from digital to analog inputs? I seem to recall mine does.

Try that, and mayhaps it'll work with the cube setup.

That should work for game play, though navigation through the menus my pose a challenge as that is the only function the d-pad works for. Actually analog stick may work for that too, I'll have to go back and check, but I'm having company over now to play some Wii Sports and Elebits. Will post later.

Richter
12-17-2006, 12:33 AM
I go with the Wii remote NES style(though grenade use is tricky). how do you toss the grenades?

chicnstu
12-17-2006, 12:36 AM
How well does using the Wii remote as a joystick work?

Auxilla
12-17-2006, 08:28 AM
how do you toss the grenades?

Flicking the Wii remote.

itobandito
12-17-2006, 01:32 PM
does anyone know if they sell a PS2 to gamecube adapter that lets you swap the analog to a digital pad. I have the neo geo arcade stick for ps2 and I want to use it with the game however the adapter I have recognized the controller as digital. buttons work but no movement. I really hope there is an adapter that lets you switch between the two.

Querjek
12-17-2006, 02:42 PM
how do you toss the grenades?

Flicking the remote... I find it really irritating because it makes me a tad disoriented, especially in boss battles (where I use most of my grenades).

Captain Wrong
12-22-2006, 09:47 AM
OK, since I've seen both in this thread, someone who has this game and has tried it, please answer this question:

Metal Slug Anthology for Wii allows you to use the GC controler, yes or no?

TurboGenesis
12-22-2006, 09:53 AM
OK, since I've seen both in this thread, someone who has this game and has tried it, please answer this question:

Metal Slug Anthology for Wii allows you to use the GC controler, yes or no?


YES. You CAN use the GCN controller :)

Captain Wrong
12-26-2006, 12:16 AM
OK, I look forward to trying this with the GCN controller, because I couldn't find any of the Wiimote configurations that felt right. I can't understand why they didn't enable support for the VC controller as it would have been perfect.

klausien
12-26-2006, 08:55 AM
You can use the GC controller in an analog-only configuation. It works, but is disappointing. The control is but one of my issues with the game however. Below is an admittedly knee-jerk, scathing rant about the game I wrote on the HG101 boards (that I still completely stand by 100%) for some contrast to what people have been saying here:


It is very unfortunate that the PS2 version is currently vaporware; banished to the realm of the uncertain. SNK/Playmore even removed the message board for it on their site. I am praying that it happens, I think...

Let the ranting begin...

I bought Metal Slug Anthology for the Wii the day it came out, and just traded it in for Painkiller on the XBox tonight. Couldn't return it and was impatient, so I just unloaded it then and there. I haven't traded a game in at a chain store for several years, and make it a point to disuade others from doing so as well. That is how upsetting this release is. I knew all 7 Metal Slug arcade games on one disc was too good to be true.

I can live with the budget menus and the like, though a 10th Anniversary-branded product should celebrate a bit more. I can live with the mid-level loading times, though don't feel like they should be there at this point. The problem is the two larger failures with the product, one of which has been detailed above. (Skip the next paragraph if you wish to avoid yet another round of bitching about the control)

The control options are absolutely atrocious. I understand the playing around with motion control, but not having a d-pad & grenade button option in-game is a nightmare. The precision necessary for these games is simply not possible with analog control. The lack of Classic Controller support and fact that the menus don't use the GC analog when you are forced to use it in-game are a big slap in the face.

As I was giving them the benefit of the doubt for the control based upon the fact that all 7 games are on there, I began to notice that something else wasn't right. "Hmm... why am I not hitting the boss? No, wait, I am. They removed the flashing when you hit enemies? You've got to be kidding me!" Now, I could have lived with the control, but the lack of hit-flashes totally ruins the experience. It sounds so minor, but it really isn't. It can be tough to mentally register how many times you are hitting something, if you can tell you are hitting it at all. More abstractly, it also ruins the arcade aesthetic of the games. The excuse is that Nintendo made them do it due to photosensitivity guidelines, but there had to be a better way. The fact that certain enemies/objects actually do slightly flash occasionally further infuriates. This is TOTALLY unacceptable.

All the criticism Digital Eclipse has taken for their work on Capcom Classics and like has been entirely overblown in the face of this atrocity. Terminal Reality really killed this collection. THIS is how NOT to do a classics comp. I will take some aliasing, artificial display modes, and lack of tate mode over this garbage ANY day.

I may have taken a bath on this one, but at least I already own all of the games except 2 & 6 on acceptable formats and can play 1 - 5 on the XBox via emulation. If I really want 6 and the PS2 Anthology has the same hit-flash issues/isn't released, I'll import it for PS2. If you lack that luxury, this is actually not too bad, but go for the PSP version if you have one. Even the crappy PSP D-pad is better than what they did to these classics on the Wii. SNK/Playmore took a big steaming dump on one of their most beloved series for its 10th anniversary. I am still dumbfounded. This might be the worst collection of great games ever produced.

There you have it. Not pretty, but spoken from the heart. Moral of the story: Don't waste your money. Get something like Trauma Center: Second Opinion instead. Apples and oranges gameplay-wise, but infinitely better.