PS3 games, should I bite the bullet and buy some games?

[PDorr3]

PS3 is suffering from the typical lack of games during a launch, sure theres alot of quality games out for it now, but many are just ports from 360 games, and being the owner of a 360 I would rather just buy them on 360 than ps3 (I prefer rumble and the better online service).

I want some games for my PS3 that are exclusive to the system, I dont get my ps3 until Xmas but I have resistance already nailed down as my first game, I also plan on buying ridge racer 7 since I loved RR6 so much.

So my question is this, should I just pickup some of the mediocre ps3 exclusives such as genji, untold legends, full auto 2 (and dare I say it) Gundam crossfire?

This topic is mainly for you guys to help me decide which ones I should buy, but be aware that I will probably be buying them on ebay instead of in retail (ebay most of these games go for about $40-45).

Genji:
Game looks nice graphicaly, I cant say I am a huge fan of hack n slash games, but I dont despise them. My question is if the camera that everone seems to hate so bad that it warrants not purchasing this game?

Untold legends:
I am an RPG fan, and I enjoyed diablo2 and BG: Dark alliance on ps2, although this game gets criticized as being repetitve and problems w/ camera and stuff. I like action RPGs, but is this really good enough to be called a next gen experience worth of purchase?

Full Auto 2:
I bought the first full auto and it was the first 360 game I regreted buying for $60. It seemed rushed and online just wasnt much fun, however this one seems to have been improved upon in graphics, controls, and gameplay, but I am still uncertain if these improvements are worth buying this game all over again it kinda looks like a full auro 1.5 instead of a new game)

Gundam crossfire:
I probably wont buy this until its like $20 or less, but I would like it jsut to see exactly how bad the game supposedly is (or who knows maybe I will actualy like it a bit). I am a slight gundam fan, and I enjoyed the first gundam game on ps2 (journy to jaburough [sp?]).

Anyway anyone who owns any of these games please help me decide on if I should buy any of these...

[gepeto]

I say don't waste your money. I am in the same rut. I have a ps3 and resistance. I want to pick up rr7 but most reviews say it is really rr6.5.

I downloaded the demo of genji and wasn't too impressed. I personally like the formula demo and I will pick that one up. I see it this way I got the system got caught up in the hype:) Now I wait.

It was a pricey purchase and now I will wait for good games for the system. The only chance I would pick up any launch titles is if it were gamestops but 2 get 1 free. The games are just not worth it now. I think developers just through something out there for launch.

I am very happy with the 360 assortment of games and ports are becoming and issue. Do I go cheap xbox ps2 for marvel alliance or slightly enhanced port for extra 20.00. The thing that really hurts the ps3 is the jump isn't that noticiable from the 360 the are identical so until ps3 can seperate it games from the 360 I will wait.

In the last gen error I if there were 2 ports for a game I would pick up the xbox version. I only got burned with need for speed hot pursuit 2. I sorta still feel the same way.

[TurboGenesis]

I only have Genji and I can vouch for its terrible camara. If your not a fan of hack & slash then I cannot reccommend this title.

I can't do FPS so no resistence for me.

I don't know if I can do yet another Ridge Racer as this was the only game I got for 360 at launch (until DOA4)

If you enjoy Robotron style games then I can recommend Blast Factor. This is a download game from Playstation store. Its pretty good and has good sound - and you get to use that sixaxis to make waves in the game.

[xmagxus]

Well my PS3 gets neglected due to being inferior to both wii and 360 but still it had a couple good games.

Ridge racer 7 is the best launch game imo, resistance close 2nd. Untold legends is really good if you liked the psp versions. Genji is "alright" mindless fun. Gundam is god awful, it looks like a 2nd generation ps2 game (im not joking). I have full auto 2 but havent had the chance to play it yet. Those are all the games I have for ps3 but I am sure all the other ones are pretty identical in most aspects to their 360 counterparts.

Overall I'd say all the games I listed are worth owning for various reasons EXCEPT for gundam, good lord thats one game review critics actually seemed to have accurately judged.

[LiquidPolicenaut]

Im also in the same predicament and the 2 games I have are the ones you are about to get, Resistance and RR7. Im a big RR fan and I thought RR7 was/is a great game. IT pretty much has all the courses from RR6, but seem to have a better sense of speed to them then on the 360 version, imo. Other than those 2 games, there really isnt anything to entice me right now on the PS3. I REALLY wish Sony would add a LOT more for us to the online store, like more demos and whatnot.

[heybtbm]

Life is too short to waste time playing mediocre games.

Think of it this way, if you buy any of these shitty PS3 titles, you're telling the lazy game studios that "mediocre" is good enough for you. Personally, I don't see how anyone has time to play boring PS3 crap when there are so many AAA titles on the 360, DS, and PS2. Don't be Sony's bitch.

[meancode]

I would not get Gundam Crossfire. That game is just horrible.

I still have Untold Legends Dark Kingdom, as I like the series, and like this game.

Full Auto 2 does not feel rushed like the first one did. It has a new mode too, Arena, which is pretty much list like Twisted Metal, but not. It is a big improvement on the first game. Why they added a stupid story to the career mode we will never know. Full Auto 2 is another game I am keeping.

I got rid of Genji as soon as I finished it. The camera was a problem, and it was only an average game, I would say don't spend your money on that one.

I am sure you will like Ridge Racer 7 Pete. It is a nice upgrade from 6.

I might also suggest some of the downloadables. I like Blast Factor a lot, and I also picked up Lemmings for $3, which has some challenging levels to it.

[Anthony1]

The best game you can get for the PS3 right now is the Japanese version of Motorstorm. It will play fine on your US PS3. I ordered mine from Play Asia for $63 shipped. Sure, the USA version is coming out sometime in March, but I'll be playing this 70 days before everybody else. The only thing missing is the online mode. It's possible the online mode will be downloadable later for those with the JPN version anyways.

The next best game is Resistance, and then after that I would say RR7. I rented Genji, and suprisingly, it's not as horrible as I thought it would be. Sure you have to fight enemies off screen to a degree, but it has a little HUD thing in the corner of the screen to let you know where enemies are coming from. I was expecting Genji to be absolutely horrible, and I was pleasantly suprised. Also, I would suggest giving Fight Night a rental, I've heard the PS3 version is definitely superior to the 360 version. Other than that, I would say to wait till Feb 20th and VF5's release, and then in March you have Lair and Heavenly Sword and Warhawk and Fatal Inertia and all the others.

[Trebuken]

Got Resistance only myself. Got Untold Legends coming for $26 on ebay. I'd get a couple off ebay and save some change, and then rent (who rents them? did not see any at my closest Blockbuster). I might look for Ridge Racer after reading this thread. Otherwise I'm just picking up Blu-Ray movies.

There does not seem to be any original games coming out until February 20th with Virtua Fighter 5 so I'd pace myself unless Sonic/FEAR/Oblivion are new to you.

I'm getting good results with my PS2/PS1 games.

Later,
Trebuken

[TurboGenesis]

The best game you can get for the PS3 right now is the Japanese version of Motorstorm. It will play fine on your US PS3. I ordered mine from Play Asia for $63 shipped. Sure, the USA version is coming out sometime in March, but I'll be playing this 70 days before everybody else. The only thing missing is the online mode. It's possible the online mode will be downloadable later for those with the JPN version anyways.


Do tell of your impressions of Motorstorm when it arrives and you play it. I am considering aquiring this game just to have something to play plus to give Japanese game a go.

[hezeuschrist]

The best game you can get for the PS3 right now is the Japanese version of Motorstorm. It will play fine on your US PS3. I ordered mine from Play Asia for $63 shipped. Sure, the USA version is coming out sometime in March, but I'll be playing this 70 days before everybody else. The only thing missing is the online mode. It's possible the online mode will be downloadable later for those with the JPN version anyways.

From what I hear, the final release of Motorstorm in Japan is pretty much a demo.

"An IGN staffer calls the Japanese version of MotorStorm "the most featureless racer I've ever played." The hurried release lacks both online and offline multiplayer, time attack and free run modes, and basic settings for number of racers and lap count. But trim doesn't equal fast, as load times stretch to the 45-second mark; even vehicle selection is bogged down by model load-ins (and you'll have to break out the manual for vehicle stat comparisons)."

Why even release it?

[Joker T]

From what I hear, the final release of Motorstorm in Japan is pretty much a demo.

"An IGN staffer calls the Japanese version of MotorStorm "the most featureless racer I've ever played." The hurried release lacks both online and offline multiplayer, time attack and free run modes, and basic settings for number of racers and lap count. But trim doesn't equal fast, as load times stretch to the 45-second mark; even vehicle selection is bogged down by model load-ins (and you'll have to break out the manual for vehicle stat comparisons)."

Why even release it?

Well they needed to get something out in Japan, I guess they figured people wouldn't care that much.

[meancode]

The best game you can get for the PS3 right now is the Japanese version of Motorstorm. It will play fine on your US PS3. I ordered mine from Play Asia for $63 shipped. Sure, the USA version is coming out sometime in March, but I'll be playing this 70 days before everybody else. The only thing missing is the online mode. It's possible the online mode will be downloadable later for those with the JPN version anyways.

The next best game is Resistance, and then after that I would say RR7. I rented Genji, and suprisingly, it's not as horrible as I thought it would be. Sure you have to fight enemies off screen to a degree, but it has a little HUD thing in the corner of the screen to let you know where enemies are coming from. I was expecting Genji to be absolutely horrible, and I was pleasantly suprised. Also, I would suggest giving Fight Night a rental, I've heard the PS3 version is definitely superior to the 360 version. Other than that, I would say to wait till Feb 20th and VF5's release, and then in March you have Lair and Heavenly Sword and Warhawk and Fatal Inertia and all the others.

After reading what IGN had to say about the JP version of MotorStorm, then seeing what CheapyD had to say about the game, I would say it is really not worth an import. It has one mode. No online. The seven courses apparently look quite similar. Did I mention it only had one mode?

That is inexcusable for a racing game today! Such a waste of what looked (from the demo) of a good game. I just hope that the US release in March has more meat to it, and more than just added online support. Otherwise, as hezeuschrist put it, it is just another Motorstorm demo.

I got Fight Night Round 3, and while it may be worth a rental, it is in no way superior to the 360 version. The PS3 has the new "Get In The Ring" mode which is all done in first person. It is quite good, but you cannot chose to play the entire game this way, which you should be able to.

When you compare the two versions side by side, which I did, the PS3 version is washed out and muddy (which is a complaint when comparing almost all PS3 ports of 360 games). The PS3 version doesn't have the dark browns and blacks that the 360 version does. If you adjust your TV so that it does, the character models get blown out because you are affecting the other side of the spectrum too much.

I was quite disappointed in the muddiness, it does not have the "punch" that it does on the 360.

I also agree with Pete that any cross platform games on both PS3 and 360 are going to be better on 360, so games like Fatal Inertia and Virtua Fighter 5 I will not be getting on the PS3.

Even if it has nothing to do with online play (people are dreaming if they think Sega is going to add Live play to VF5) the game will be better on the 360 just for the fact that the Xbox Live integration in the Dashboard works, where Sony doesn't seem to understand how to integrate community features into the XMB yet.

[PDorr3]

Well I bought RR7 today, so I will atleast have 2 great games to play on Xmas. I am dissapointed to hear that about motorstorm, and I REALLY hope they add more to the US release besides online play. The game has a TON of hype behind it, and it would not be good for the ps3 to get another lackaluster game (though even if it is limited in features it stil seems to play/look good).

I will probably buy untold legends and genji on ebay once I can pick them up for like $25 shipped each which will probably take another month, just enough time for me to play my RR7 and resistance to death.

[Anthony1]

I also agree with Pete that any cross platform games on both PS3 and 360 are going to be better on 360, so games like Fatal Inertia and Virtua Fighter 5 I will not be getting on the PS3.

Even if it has nothing to do with online play (people are dreaming if they think Sega is going to add Live play to VF5) the game will be better on the 360 just for the fact that the Xbox Live integration in the Dashboard works, where Sony doesn't seem to understand how to integrate community features into the XMB yet.

I think you are generalizing a bit too much. To say that all cross platform games are going to "automatically" be better on 360 is a little ridiculous. Sure, right now they all are, and with good reason. The PS3 launch games are just that, launch games. Launch games are typically rushed out to make launch and put something on the shelves. The XBOX 360 versions of many of the PS3 launch games weren't rushed, and the developers have had some experience with the 360, as well as having had development kits for almost 2 years longer. Both Fatal Inertia (didn't know this was multiplatform) and Virtua Fighter 5 started development with the PS3 in mind. So these will likely perform a bit better on PS3. Just like all the other cross platform games that are currently available were started with 360 in mind, so of course they will have better framerates, etc, etc.

Now, what I will agree with is the dashboard functionality, the online functionality as well as rumble support. You can look at a game like NBA 2K7 which is virtually identical on both platforms. Although the games look and play virtually identical, the 360 version wins by default because of rumble support. On the 360 version, when one of your players is jostling for position on the low block, you can "feel" the physical nature of the confrontation for space under the basket. When I played the PS3 version, not having that at all just seems so strange. Also when you get out on a fast break and you can do a thunder dunk, on the 360 you "feel" that slam to a slight degree, and it gives you a genuine feeling of temporary satisfaction. Feeling nothing on the PS3 is just another sign that Sony's lack of rumble support was a very bad move on their part. NBA 2K7 on 360 also wins because of the fact that the online system is better integrated with the game, and the environment of Xbox Live & Marketplace is just better. But to think that advantages like this are going to continue forever, is just a bit naive in my opinion.

This scenario might continue well into 2007, all the way into Fall, but I think as we get to late 2007 it will be a more level playing field. There will definitely be some multiplatform games that will have the PS3 version as the lead sku. Those games will look and play better on PS3. As for whether the lack of rumble and not having the ease of the whole Xbox Live and 360 dashboard experience will be enough to knock them down to even or less than their respective 360 versions...that remains to be decided. I think Sony will eventually realize their mistake when it comes to rumble support. They will pay Immersion the $200 million, license the tech for the PS3, and the Sixaxis Dual Shock 3 will be born. I also think Sony will eventually develop a better imitation of the whole Xbox Live Marketplace and 360 Dashboard experience. At that point, the 2 systems will be on equal footing, and the PS3 will eventually begin to show it's dominance from a pure technological and rendering standpoint. I fully expect that in late 2008 and 2009, there will be PS3 games that simply aren't possible on the 360. At that point, you will hear Microsoft begin to start talking about the Xbox 720 or whatever it's going to be called.

For current Xbox 360 fanboys, no need to worry right now. late 2008 and 2009 is a long time away from now, and the 360 will continue to enjoy "superiority status" for quite some time. Last gen, I was fully in the Microsoft camp, just because I felt that their product was significantly better than the competition. I have no loyalty to any of these companies, and I really prefer to own all systems and play everything. The 360 is CLEARLY the better platform right now, and will remain so in the immediate future, but those that think it will stay that way for the course of this generation will likely be sadly mistaken.

[Slate]

Who rents them? I did not see any at my closest Blockbuster.

Online rental sites have them.

[meancode]

The free throw shooting on PS3 NBA 2K7 is pretty cool, but not worth it when compared to the 360 version I have had for months. But the added animations on the PS3 version is a nice touch.

I will wait and see on Fatal Inertia. Had it been a launch title and not delayed, I would have likely had the desire to play it. But it got delayed, then KOEI said both of their PS3 games would be released on 360 too, and now my want for it has subsided.

If it has an interesting control scheme with the SIXAXIS, that might be the deciding factor.

But until Sony gets a respectable install base, online play in these cross-platform games are going to go in favor of the 360 and Xbox Live.

I really want to see the PS3 succeed, more than most. But there are a lot of holes that need patching in the XMB before they can start competing head-to-head with the 360.

They do need rumble, it really does hurt them, despite what some people call a gimmick. They need background downloading, I am quite shocked that was not in the 1.0 XMB software. They also need the ability to jump to the XMB while you are in a game, so you can read messages, change music, and see what your friends are doing.

The "Rich presence" that Xbox Live has is hardly even touched upon in the XMB. The only thing it says is what game your friend is playing. And it doesn't help that you can only see that when you are not in a game.

As silly as this sounds, Xbox Live Achievements help the 360 in more ways than Achievement Point Whores (you know who you are). They add re-playability to games, often times without you even realizing it. That is a very good thing for Microsoft, and something that Sony obviously did not pick up on.

I am looking forward to Oblivion on the PS3, I hope it is more in line with the PC version, with less pop-in and they have already shown that they have done a better job of merging foreground and background elements. And that is a game I will have no problems playing through again, that's for sure.

Virtua Fighter 5 was a big blow. Assassins Creed was a big blow. Lets hope, for Sony's sake, that they don't lose MGS 4 as well.

[PDorr3]

I will always buy 360 multiplatform games over PS3 ones because of the following:

-I prefer the 360 controller so much more than PS3
-360 has rumble
-Achievements give me reasons to replay games, and overall I really like them
-I but alot of my games for online play (most of the time) and 360 has the best service out there, plus full mic support for each game
-More of the people I know own 360, hardly anybody I play w/ has a ps3 or plans to get one for online play.

[meancode]

I will always buy 360 multiplatform games over PS3 ones because of the following:

-I prefer the 360 controller so much more than PS3
-360 has rumble
-Achievements give me reasons to replay games, and overall I really like them
-I but alot of my games for online play (most of the time) and 360 has the best service out there, plus full mic support for each game
-More of the people I know own 360, hardly anybody I play w/ has a ps3 or plans to get one for online play.

I could not have said it better myself! Great points.

[Anthony1]

I will always buy 360 multiplatform games over PS3 ones because of the following:

-I prefer the 360 controller so much more than PS3
-360 has rumble
-Achievements give me reasons to replay games, and overall I really like them
-I but alot of my games for online play (most of the time) and 360 has the best service out there, plus full mic support for each game
-More of the people I know own 360, hardly anybody I play w/ has a ps3 or plans to get one for online play.


Yeah, I also agree with all of that, and it's rather sad that it has to be like this.


Here is my take regarding the PS3 controller vs. 360 controller.




The 360 controller just feels so much better in my hands. The PS3 one is way too freaking lightweight. I mean, it feels like I can twist it with my bare hands and snap it in two. Also, the lack of rumble is a huge, huge thing. People can brush it off as not that big a deal, but I'm sorry, for many games the experience is dramatically watered down without it. We know that rumble is important for First Person Shooters and Racers, that's a given, but it's also important for alot of sports games too. I already explained above how NBA 2K7 is a better experience on 360 because of rumble, and the rumble has an actual bearing on the gameplay experience. Also, the location of the analog sticks on the PS3 pad just doesn't make sense. When Microsoft made the first controller for the original Xbox, they came to a correct conclusion that the left stick should be higher than the right stick. It's just more natural and ergonomic that way.

[Joker T]

I agree, the lack of rumble sucks.

Rumble can be gimmicky in some titles, but in others like Gears of War it really isn't at all. Chainsawing someone just wouldn't feel the same without it.