Know anywhere I could get Duke Nukem 3D for the Megadrive?

[Kikoskia]

Hello everyone.

My megadrive collection is rather large, but recently I have been on the trail of something I want to get quite badly; Duke Nukem 3D for the megadrive, released by Tec Toy.

However, so far my own seraching has proven fruitless. Online I seem unable to find anything and I don't know what other avenues I can take. You here are all probably a lot better connected then I am when it comes to these kind of things, so I ask that you may be able to help me locate where I could purchase it.

Thank you for your time. :)

P.S: If this is in the wrong forum, do not hesitate to move it.

[ig88vsbobafett]

I dont know if this is any more info but it only came out in barzil

[Kitsune Sniper]

You could try looking at http://www.mercadolivre.com.br/ :)

[Wookie]

I dont know if this is any more info but it only came out in barzil

Not quite true, as it also seems to have been released in Russia. I bought my copy on ebay from a Russian seller.

[anagrama]

Your best bet is finding someone in Brazil to pick it up - it's not really that rare there, and could still be found on shop shelves a year or two back.


Not quite true, as it also seems to have been released in Russia. I bought my copy on ebay from a Russian seller.

The Russian ones are bootlegs.

[Kikoskia]

You could try looking at http://www.mercadolivre.com.br/ :)

Thanks for the link. Had a look. Nothing there from what I could see. :(

I have continued to keep looking. All I have really found is one person who says they have it, but the thought of not using Paypal for it (they say they hate it) is making me blanch. I don't really trust me money is that safe if I don't use paypal.

[Kikoskia]

Just as an update, the only person I have found so far to be selling it was on another forum. He wanted $100 for it, complete. I didn't accept that as a reasonable price and pointed him to this site (rarity guide says it's $35 on average) but he claims that that's the standard price.

*sigh* This does not bode well for me so far. I don't have that kind of money to put into just one game. :(

[All Things Sega]

You should try ebay. There's this great seller on there with perfect feedback who I've dealt with for the past 5 years. He posts around once a month but lots of tec toy games for nes, sms and megadrive. Got a lot of the sms tec toys games from him. As for being common down there, I can believe it. This seller threw in a copy of duke nukem complete because of the games I would buy from him. He's great to deal with! It's weird to play this game but surprising how much the lil genny can deliver. His ebay id is: bonaccorsi Hope that helps

[Kikoskia]

It most certainly does. I shall keep my eyes open for him. :)

How much do you think he'd charge me for it?

[anagrama]

That seller is probably Bonaccorsi - he's a great guy, and has been supplying Brazilian games to hungry Western collectors for years.

The $35 price tag is probably a touch low these days, but even on eBay it sholdn't cost more than about $60-$70 tops. $100 is over the odds considering it can be found fairly easily in Brazil for $20-$30.

[klausien]

Bonaccorsi is a great seller. Drop him a message through eBay about it and he my even help you out directly. Just be aware that shipping from Brazil to the US takes a while.

[Ed Oscuro]

I hope you've emulated it first...

[jajaja]

I hope you've emulated it first...

Hehe, ye, the game is pretty horrible to play. I'd say near impossible, atleast to play and enjoy that is. But considering the MD hardware specs and the limitation of the controller the game is an amazing port.

[fishsandwich]

It's really cool to see what the Genny (err Megadrive) can do with a FPS... Duke is far and away the most technologically advanced FPS ever made for the Genny. It makes Zero Tolerance look like complete ass. The viewing window is MUCH larger and the frame rate is surprisingly decent.

Just don't be expecting to see anything that resembles the Duke aside from the title screen, some of the enemies, and the Duke's boot kicking out when you have no weapons left. The game is NOTHING like the original... I have yet to see one level that looks like anything from the "real" Duke Nukems. It's more of a really stripped-down Castle Wolfenstein, and that's being charitable. The game engine moves fast but the graphics are grainy and the levels are devoid of detail. Granted, I haven't made it very far in the game... the level of difficulty is brutal.

Just keep watching ebay. It will show up.

[Kikoskia]

I know what to expect, I have played the ROM first. :) And it won't be shipping from Brazil to the US, it will be Brazil to the UK... >_>

No message from him as of yet, although I only messaged him yesterday. I shall have to wait and see. Hopefully he can help, it's getting to the point where it seems that I can only get it from the dude that wants $100 for it. >_>

[briskbc]

Does this game play on the Genny or just a the MD?

[Kikoskia]

From what I know, it plays on both megadrive and genesis consoles. :)

[fishsandwich]

It plays just fine on my X'Eye. If it plays on that it must play on the domestic Genesis (unlike Beggar Prince which plays on the Genny but not the X'Eye or CDX though the "developers" of Beggar Prince won't disclose that fact to perspective buyers.) Come to think of it, I didn't have the X'Eye when I got Duke Nukem years ago so I must have first played it on a stock Genesis.

[Ed Oscuro]

It's really cool to see what the Genny (err Megadrive) can do with a FPS... Duke is far and away the most technologically advanced FPS ever made for the Genny. It makes Zero Tolerance look like complete ass. The viewing window is MUCH larger and the frame rate is surprisingly decent.
lol good joke

Nevermind that Zero Tolerance seems able to have more enemies onscreen, doesn't have odd dithered sprites from hell, and has multiplayer capability.

[fishsandwich]

lol good joke

Nevermind that Zero Tolerance seems able to have more enemies onscreen, doesn't have odd dithered sprites from hell, and has multiplayer capability.

No joke intended. Zero Tolerance does indeed (seem to) have more enemies, multiplayer capabilities, and better sprites PLUS the added benefits of a crap frame rate that stutters like mad AND a viewing window that takes up only one-third of the screen. Don't forget the shite draw distance... I'm a HUGE fan of walls and enemies that pop up right in front of your face!

Keep in mind that I'm comparing real carts on real hardware, not ROMS and emulators on a PC.

Pics attached.

[Ed Oscuro]

Keep in mind that I'm comparing real carts on real hardware, not ROMS and emulators on a PC.
lol yeah my emulators know how to increase the draw distance

Also I have a real copy of ZT. No doubt I'd buy Duke if it didn't give me a huge fucking migraine.

Yeah, sure looks like increased draw distance and FPS were worth all the other things they sacrificed, like playability!

[fishsandwich]

Yeah, sure looks like increased draw distance and FPS were worth all the other things they sacrificed, like playability!

My cart plays great on the original console... it's just hard as hell. I'll take an original cart on original hardware over an emulated ROM on a PC any day.

[Emuaust]

I always thought Blood Shot/Battle Frenzy did a resonable job for the limited hardware

[fishsandwich]

I always thought Blood Shot/Battle Frenzy did a resonable job for the limited hardware


Wasn't that a CD title? The Seda CD hardware has an extra CPU plus a custom chip for scaling and rotation. Battle Frenzy does indeed look quite nice and has better/sharper graphics than Duke.

Scratch all that if Battle Frenzy was a cartridge game.

[Ed Oscuro]

Yes, scratch that - it's a cartridge game.

Alright, time to put the money where the mouth is:

Duke Nukem vs. Zero Tolerance, quick 'n dirty style (i.e. via emulators, and not having played all the way through DN yet)

Graphics section

FPS: About equal, perhaps DN has a slight edge here, but then again perhaps not. Blood Shot seems slower than both.

Screen size: ZT has a much smaller viewable screen than DN

Quality of graphics: ZT does have some dithered graphics, but only signs on walls. Sprites in DN are dithered quite severely (somebody correct me if this is different on the hardware, but walls and non-world objects (your gun, HUD, etc) are sharp, but some things are affected by the lowered palette (namely the HUD and the non-viewable background from DN - weapon graphics seem pretty close to the original thanks to the predominantly black/gray color schemes they use).

Draw Distance: Not a problem in either, in theory - the entry room of ZT is very large, and the far walls can be seen from either extreme end. However, at that distance they are only a few pixels tall. DN has very large walls that can be seen easily as the rooms are quite small (in relation to the player character).

Sound section

Music: DN3D hands down. ZT does have one nice tune in the elevator, but that's about it.

Sound effects: Both games have clear voice samples, although ZT's constant reminders that you've picked up some weapon or other get annoying.

Control section

ZT wins here. Jump, duck, and strafe are all available (on one button though so you need to be careful), and auto-aim ensures that you only need to be looking in the direction of an enemy. In DN3D, you need to be lined up precisely with an enemy, and the lack of a crosshair makes this difficult.

No idea if DN has the wall mines - if so that is a point towards DN.

As mentioned before, there is also multiplayer available in ZT (minus points: you need a rare cable).

[bangtango]

lol yeah my emulators know how to increase the draw distance

Also I have a real copy of ZT. No doubt I'd buy Duke if it didn't give me a huge fucking migraine.

Yeah, sure looks like increased draw distance and FPS were worth all the other things they sacrificed, like playability!

Well, you have to admit that Duke Nukem 3D is more playable than Duke Nukem Forever.

[Ed Oscuro]

Yeah, it's not a bad effort by TecToy, really. I wonder if a flat-shaded polygon game would've worked better.

[jajaja]

Well, you have to admit that Duke Nukem 3D is more playable than Duke Nukem Forever.

lol LOL Every game is more playable than Duke 4ever hehe ;) I wonder if that game is ever going to come out.

[fishsandwich]

Yes, scratch that - it's a cartridge game.

Alright, time to put the money where the mouth is:

Duke Nukem vs. Zero Tolerance, quick 'n dirty style (i.e. via emulators, and not having played all the way through DN yet)

Graphics section

FPS: About equal, perhaps DN has a slight edge here, but then again perhaps not. Blood Shot seems slower than both.

Screen size: ZT has a much smaller viewable screen than DN

Quality of graphics: ZT does have some dithered graphics, but only signs on walls. Sprites in DN are dithered quite severely (somebody correct me if this is different on the hardware, but walls and non-world objects (your gun, HUD, etc) are sharp, but some things are affected by the lowered palette (namely the HUD and the non-viewable background from DN - weapon graphics seem pretty close to the original thanks to the predominantly black/gray color schemes they use).

Draw Distance: Not a problem in either, in theory - the entry room of ZT is very large, and the far walls can be seen from either extreme end. However, at that distance they are only a few pixels tall. DN has very large walls that can be seen easily as the rooms are quite small (in relation to the player character).

Sound section

Music: DN3D hands down. ZT does have one nice tune in the elevator, but that's about it.

Sound effects: Both games have clear voice samples, although ZT's constant reminders that you've picked up some weapon or other get annoying.

Control section

ZT wins here. Jump, duck, and strafe are all available (on one button though so you need to be careful), and auto-aim ensures that you only need to be looking in the direction of an enemy. In DN3D, you need to be lined up precisely with an enemy, and the lack of a crosshair makes this difficult.

No idea if DN has the wall mines - if so that is a point towards DN.

As mentioned before, there is also multiplayer available in ZT (minus points: you need a rare cable).

Word.

[bangtango]

lol LOL Every game is more playable than Duke 4ever hehe ;) I wonder if that game is ever going to come out.

They might as well port it to the Sega Dreamcast or Atari Jaguar, because by the time it DOES come out (if it ever does), nobody is going to care about it.

It'd be an even funnier joke if they started running ads for the game in major magazines with a generic picture of Duke (from the early 90's) and a tagline saying "Coming Soon" and just paid for the ad space month after month.

The "Coming Soon" trick worked for Atari for many years. They got me excited about a good many games that never showed up. Those ads had me asking retailers about them regularly.

[anagrama]

Yeah, it's not a bad effort by TecToy, really.

Considering the (lack of) quality of TecToy's other in-house games, I'd be pretty surprised if Duke was actually developed by them.