Need a PS3? Best Buy has plenty.

[ManciGames]

So, I was in Best Buy today, and for the third visit in a row there were about 20 60GB PS3s clogging up one of the main aisles. There were a couple of BB Blue Shirts using them as a worktable to sort a case of DVDs that they were stocking in a nearby aisle. Perhaps they figured their table would not be disturbed because nobody was going to pick a PS3 off the pile?

Anyway, if you still want one, head on down to your nearest BB as they seem pretty plentiful. Still not a Wii in sight though, so if you're in the market for one of those, you're still SOL.

On a side-note, I finally got to see a blue-ray player in action. BB had one set up on a 1080 LCD screen. In all honesty, the image looked no better than my $100 upscale conversion DVD player.

[boatofcar]

/laughs at the PS3's going for under retail on eBay....

[Steve W]

A local Fry's Electronics store had a pallet on the sales floor stacked over six feet tall of PS3 units. It looked like only one box had been taken off the stack. Not a good sign for the PS3. Incidentally, the store had an Xbox 360 set up with the external HD-DVD drive, and was playing what looked like King Kong. I haven't seen any of the 'next-gen' video formats running before, and I was fairly impressed. If I had a high definition TV, I might pick one of those drives up, but for now, I think I'll stick with playing games on my 360.

[allsport11]

I was at a Best Buy here in North Jersey yesterday checking out what they had. No WII"s or 360's to be seen but plenty of PS3's and a few 360 HD-DVD players. The blue shirt there was pushing the PS3 on me and they have TWO full Blue Ray setups neither that impress me at all. When I asked where was the HD-DVD setup I was told they didn't have one because Blue Ray was and is selling better. I highly doubt that. They also had far fewer HD-DVD movies available compared to Blue Ray. Not sure if it was because they sold more or if they were just stocking less.

[Retsudo]

I walked into EBgames the other day and a guy asked if they had any PS3's. The girl behind the counter said yes, plenty, but nobody's buying them.I wonder why? She said that while rolling her eyes. I told her maybe people dont have 600 bucks to throw down on one especially when Christmas was not too long ago. Did that ever come too mind? I always mess with her every time I go in there anyway.Skinny ugly bitch.

[diskoboy]

I was at a Best Buy here in North Jersey yesterday checking out what they had. No WII"s or 360's to be seen but plenty of PS3's and a few 360 HD-DVD players. The blue shirt there was pushing the PS3 on me and they have TWO full Blue Ray setups neither that impress me at all. When I asked where was the HD-DVD setup I was told they didn't have one because Blue Ray was and is selling better. I highly doubt that. They also had far fewer HD-DVD movies available compared to Blue Ray. Not sure if it was because they sold more or if they were just stocking less.


If he told you Blu-ray was outselling HD-DVD's he's lying. I believe the ratio is now 6 to 1 (HD-DVD vs. Blu-ray). When I went to buy my HD Superman 2: Donner Cut, the guy said he was having a hard time getting rid of blu-ray stuff. (They had S2:RDC on Blu-ray. They were out of HD-DVD copies. Had to order off of Amazon.)

And what makes me laugh are all these people that think Blu-ray is technically superior to HD. It's not. Both have 1080p pictures and Dolby HD lossless. The 360 is the only 1080p HD-DVD capable drive on the market so far (not to mention, the cheapest)

The only advantage blu-ray has over HD is storage capacity. That's it.

[NE146]

Actually, I've seen PS3's at Target a lot of times. But just today I went to the local Best Buy.. they had no PS3s to be seen. No Wii's either.

[ManciGames]

Actually, I've seen PS3's at Target a lot of times. But just today I went to the local Best Buy.. they had no PS3s to be seen. No Wii's either.

Maybe they had them in "the cage"?

[lendelin]

Yep, I noticed the same thing, the PS3s are available, no shortage, and I don't think it is the supply, I suspect it is the demand which is not as strong as it was with the PS2. Toys R us has units, and so does Best Buy.

Three reasons:
1) The 360 is in place with no image-damage by Sonys PR whatsoever.

2) Blue Ray isn't attractive and tempting for gamers as was DVD in 2000.

3) The price tag!! $600 is a 100% price increase compared to the PS2 in 2000. This is too much. Affordable Blue-Ray-player or not, you price in order to cover costs, and even for me as an avid gamer enthusiastic about new systems, $700 or $750 to spend for a new system goes gainst my feelings when I think about the relatively cheap $180 I spent for a high-end cutting edge SuperNES in 1991 (even taking inflation into account).

[Lothars]

If he told you Blu-ray was outselling HD-DVD's he's lying. I believe the ratio is now 6 to 1 (HD-DVD vs. Blu-ray). When I went to buy my HD Superman 2: Donner Cut, the guy said he was having a hard time getting rid of blu-ray stuff. (They had S2:RDC on Blu-ray. They were out of HD-DVD copies. Had to order off of Amazon.)

To say it's 6 to 1 for HD-DVD selling vs Blu-ray is a damn biased lie,

from everything i've read blu-ray is actually catching up to HD-DVD sales, they are much closer than that, they are both good formats and I plan to have a PS3 and the HD-DVD drive for the 360 soon, but I hope it ends up being equal for both formats especially that it sounds like there will be dual format players coming soon.

[PapaStu]

The closest GameStop to me (about a mile away from the apartment, though i've easily got 6 EB/GS's within 5 miles of the apartment) has had a sign up on their door for the last 4 days saying PS3's are in stock. When I was buying a few DS games today I asked the employee and she told me that there were 6 or 7 in the back if not more. She really didn't want to check either, not that I blame her. Someone she helped before me asked about Wii's and she said that people are actually following the FedEx and UPS trucks that are doing their deliveries in hopes of getting a Wii out of it.

[Magnum]

I had to go to 3 places last night to find a new PS2.

All of them had PS3's on display

[badinsults]

Ok, the PS3 is not selling out, we get the point. This is old news dudes. No need to make new topics about it.

[c0ldb33r]

One more one more - I'm in New Brunswick, Canada. There's no Wii's or ps3's to be found. I went to Maine this weekend and out of curiosity stopped at a few gaming stores to see if there were any Wii's, there weren't, but the amount of ps3's was staggering.

[scooterb23]

While I will get a PS3 eventually...I did kind of chuckle when I saw Target using PS3s to prop up some of those 3/$10 PS2 game bundles.

[ManciGames]

Ok, the PS3 is not selling out, we get the point. This is old news dudes. No need to make new topics about it.

I think our last discussion on this topic was just before Christmas. Now that we are post-Christmas, I think the topic deserved one more follow-up.

But you are correct that from this point forward, it will be old news that the PS3s aren't selling. If they aren't selling now, they probably won't sell again until FFXIII is released or the price drops by half. Let's discuss again then.

[lendelin]

Ok, the PS3 is not selling out, we get the point. This is old news dudes. No need to make new topics about it.

I think this is not old news, rather new.

Here are some interesting sales numbers for December; after the PS3 sold 200,000 units in November, that would bring the PS3 sales up to 690,000.

Link:
http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200701/N07.0112.0939.39870.htm

[esquire]

The 360 is the only 1080p HD-DVD capable drive on the market so far (not to mention, the cheapest)

The only advantage blu-ray has over HD is storage capacity. That's it.

Actually, if you are going to look at all HD formats, the 20GB PS3 is the cheapest at $500 as opposed to the $600 you are going to pay for the 360 + HD-DVD add-on.


I think this is not old news, rather new.

I think he was getting at is here is another thread bashing Sony. Didn't we just talk about this is Ianoid's thread?

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95205

Between that, and in Anthony1's thread about the Wii's graphics, I think we all know that you and ManciGames do not like the PS3, so why do we need another PS3 bashing thread? Just move on already.

[jajaja]

Actually, if you are going to look at all HD formats, the 20GB PS3 is the cheapest at $500 as opposed to the $600 you are going to pay for the 360 + HD-DVD add-on.

Is it possible to use the HD-DVD addon on a core system? If so, it will cost $500. Same price as PS3 tho.

[esquire]

Is it possible to use the HD-DVD addon on a core system? If so, it will cost $500. Same price as PS3 tho.

Actually no, as you need to install software on the hard drive in order for it to run.

[NE146]

Well the offshoot of this is that it makes it a lot easier to snag one and flip it on ebay which is what we all wanted to do, right? :)

[Gamereviewgod]

Well the offshoot of this is that it makes it a lot easier to snag one and flip it on ebay which is what we all wanted to do, right? :)

At a loss after eBay fees and in-store tax given the price is barely above retail on eBay.

[NE146]

At a loss after eBay fees and in-store tax given the price is barely above retail on eBay.

Well yes.. that was the joke. You win the prize! :D

[ManciGames]

Between that, and in Anthony1's thread about the Wii's graphics, I think we all know that you and ManciGames do not like the PS3, so why do we need another PS3 bashing thread? Just move on already.

On the contrary, I think the PS3 is a fantastic piece of tech and will be around even ten years from now. I just find it fascinating that consumers are rejecting it.

My own theory is that Sony decided to sit this round of the console war out a long time ago. The PS3 already has the capability to push photo-real graphics in 1080p. Combine that with the ability to update the firmware over the internet and I think you've got a machine that can compete with whatever is released in the next cycle five years from now.

But, by then the PS3 will be pretty cheap to manufacture and developers will be familiar with how it works. I've got a whole bunch more detail at this point in my theory, but I don't feel like getting into it right now, so I'll just say that I believe Sony will pull a Nintendo about five years from now and just re-release the PS3 in a smaller prettier form and call it a day, at which point developers will be swarming to it in droves.

But for now...they are collecting dust.

[NE146]

I just find it fascinating that consumers are rejecting it.

It's too expensive. I pretty much think that's the primary reason.


My own theory is that Sony decided to sit this round of the console war out a long time ago. The PS3 already has the capability to push photo-real graphics in 1080p. Combine that with the ability to update the firmware over the internet and I think you've got a machine that can compete with whatever is released in the next cycle five years from now.

I wouldn't call 1080p photorealistic. That'll probably happen with 2160Q. But then we'll need to update our tv's by then once again LOL Yes I'm joking. But we all know resolution updates are coming where 1080p becomes the new composite cable. *sigh to resolution advances*


But, by then the PS3 will be pretty cheap to manufacture

Now THAT I'm waiting for. And there's no doubt of course it will happen. Just like I don't doubt it will have some killer games. Time is the thing that will have that ps3 sitting in my crummy hands... alls I'm waiting for is the games :)

[lendelin]

Between that, and in Anthony1's thread about the Wii's graphics, I think we all know that you and ManciGames do not like the PS3, so why do we need another PS3 bashing thread? Just move on already.

oookaaay...well, that is a dumb little comment hardly worth a substantial reply. You might think in concepts of accusing and defense, praising and bashing... I certainly do not.

The release of the PS3 is important, and so is how well it sells for many of us gamers and everyone interested in the industry. I won't accuse or defend the PS3 since a Sony reperesentative won't show up holding my hands and console me when I'm sick in bed.

[Poofta!]

Between that, and in Anthony1's thread about the Wii's graphics, I think we all know that you and ManciGames do not like the PS3, so why do we need another PS3 bashing thread? Just move on already.

you forget that this isnt just a gamer's forum. we are mostly collectors, and all of us enthusiasts. we love analyzing and talking about every little thing that goes on in the industry, and thats what the forums are here for. the failure or success, the shame or gloating of a console, new or old, is always a hot topic here on DP.

i for one am all over this, and am having the best time ever watching the industry evolve and the new generation unravel before me. such an exciting time, as the last time a 600$ system hit shelves.... well we all remember what happened. never been done by an industry leader.

please dont dont tell us what is or isnt worth talking about. each topic has its own momentum, if no one cares or feels like you, then no one will reply and itll die, but judging so far, its a top button issue.


*goes to get popcornz*

[Anthony1]

you forget that this isnt just a gamer's forum. we are mostly collectors, and all of us enthusiasts. we love analyzing and talking about every little thing that goes on in the industry, and thats what the forums are here for. the failure or success, the shame or gloating of a console, new or old, is always a hot topic here on DP.

i for one am all over this, and am having the best time ever watching the industry evolve and the new generation unravel before me. such an exciting time, as the last time a 600$ system hit shelves.... well we all remember what happened. never been done by an industry leader.

please dont dont tell us what is or isnt worth talking about. each topic has its own momentum, if no one cares or feels like you, then no one will reply and itll die, but judging so far, its a top button issue.


*goes to get popcornz*



Wow, I actually agree 100 percent with this take. I'm not too sure I've agreed with Poofta too much in the past, but I'm with you on this one brother. I especially agree with this part...

"we love analyzing and talking about every little thing that goes on in the industry, and thats what the forums are here for. the failure or success, the shame or gloating of a console, new or old, is always a hot topic here on DP.

i for one am all over this, and am having the best time ever watching the industry evolve and the new generation unravel before me. such an exciting time"


I agree 100 percent with that. I just wish we could analyze and argue about things in a much more civil manner, without people taking things too personally, or too seriously for that matter. I mean, this isn't life and death guys, it's freaking video games for Christsake!

It would be so nice if we could discuss things about various game systems, from a system agnostic viewpoint. If we could get down and dirty and discuss the real deal with the various systems, without people having to defend every little thing because they happened to sink $700 on a particular horse. Heck, I've spent huge bucks on the PS3, but I'm not going to be defending my purchase with the fear of buyers remorse. I would love to discuss how it's struggling like crazy, because that is the fecking truth, lol. Let's just have fun with it, and discuss things, and get down and dirty and not take things so personal, it makes things so much more fun and entertaining!

[jajaja]

Considering the heavy competition from 360 and Wii, the rather high price (well, not high compared to what you really get, but for the average joe who doesnt know better, its high), the crappy games in general and no european release its not too bad that they have sold like 1 million consoles.

[jajaja]

If he told you Blu-ray was outselling HD-DVD's he's lying. I believe the ratio is now 6 to 1 (HD-DVD vs. Blu-ray).

I was just checking Blu-ray.com (www.blu-ray.com) for something else and i stumbled across this article:


Blu-ray software sales have now surpassed HD-DVD for the first time the week of December 24 and they did so by an impressive 20 percent. The sales gap is expected to widen further in 2007 based on research conducted by Twentieth Century Fox and Blu-ray is expected to outsell HD-DVD by a 3.5-to-1 ratio by the end of the first quarter. One of the driving factors behind the growth in sales is the PlayStation 3 (PS3), which was launched on November 17, 2006 in North America.

Overall the Blu-ray backers are confident that it's only a matter of time before the Blu-ray format becomes the dominant format in the US market, just as it already accounts for 96% of the market in Japan.

They might count the PS3 games in this calculation tho, dont know, but still.

[mailman187666]

I think the PS3 is really going to take off once the prices on 1080p TVs go down. You know the TVs are going to drop faster than we know it. Go into any Sears, Best Buy, Circuit City...all they really have is 720P-1080p TVs on display. That means since it dominates the shelves, thats what people are mainly going to buy. Once enough people buy them, we'll se 36" 1080p's for around $1000. I'm saving up some money right now for the TV (but I already have all 3 next gen systems) so the TV is all i need now. So just watch the TV sales rise and I think you'll see PS3 come along much nicer.

[esquire]

oookaaay...well, that is a dumb little comment hardly worth a substantial reply. You might think in concepts of accusing and defense, praising and bashing... I certainly do not.


You should have bought diapers instead. Cheaper and more useful.

< Points to pot calling the kettle black. O_O

[esquire]

you forget that this isnt just a gamer's forum. we are mostly collectors, and all of us enthusiasts. we love analyzing and talking about every little thing that goes on in the industry, and thats what the forums are here for. the failure or success, the shame or gloating of a console, new or old, is always a hot topic here on DP.

i for one am all over this, and am having the best time ever watching the industry evolve and the new generation unravel before me. such an exciting time, as the last time a 600$ system hit shelves.... well we all remember what happened. never been done by an industry leader.

please dont dont tell us what is or isnt worth talking about. each topic has its own momentum, if no one cares or feels like you, then no one will reply and itll die, but judging so far, its a top button issue.


*goes to get popcornz*

I agree with your comment wholeheartedly, and had you read the other two threads that I pointed out, you would have discovered that I even participated in such discussions. Perhaps I wasn't clear and concise enough, rather than expect you had read those other threads. I am not telling you what you can and cannot post. (Why is this always the same defense used when someone brings up a point that the other side doesn't like, instead of addressing the issues raised?) What I am saying is that the same arguments are being made in multiple threads by the same people over and over again, and it gets a little redundant in having to respond to the same argument over and over. Besides, I don't think comments like these are helpful:


You should have bought diapers instead. Cheaper and more useful.

So I really didn't see the point of this thread when there were two already existing threads discussing the feasibility of the PS3.

The title of the thread is "Need a PS3? Best Buy has plenty. "

The only information provided with respect to either Best Buy or PS3 was as follows:


So, I was in Best Buy today, and for the third visit in a row there were about 20 60GB PS3s clogging up one of the main aisles. There were a couple of BB Blue Shirts using them as a worktable to sort a case of DVDs that they were stocking in a nearby aisle. Perhaps they figured their table would not be disturbed because nobody was going to pick a PS3 off the pile?

Anyway, if you still want one, head on down to your nearest BB as they seem pretty plentiful. Still not a Wii in sight though, so if you're in the market for one of those, you're still SOL.

It's not like the OP was giving us any relevant information, such as which Best Buys had them in stock. No information was originally provided as hard sales numbers. No relevant information on the PS3 was provided at all. Hardly meriting a new thread, or a thoughtful discussion as you point out in your reply.

Instead, it seemed like just another reason to bash the PS3 and/or Sony. Like you, I was simply voicing my opinion, which why we are all here, correct?

[lendelin]

I agree with your comment wholeheartedly, and had you read the other two threads that I pointed out, you would have discovered that I even participated in such discussions. Perhaps I wasn't clear and concise enough, rather than expect you had read those other threads. I am not telling you what you can and cannot post. (Why is this always the same defense used when someone brings up a point that the other side doesn't like, instead of addressing the issues raised?) What I am saying is that the same arguments are being made in multiple threads by the same people over and over again, and it gets a little redundant in having to respond to the same argument over and over. Besides, I don't think comments like these are helpful:



So I really didn't see the point of this thread when there were two already existing threads discussing the feasibility of the PS3.

The title of the thread is "Need a PS3? Best Buy has plenty. "

The only information provided with respect to either Best Buy or PS3 was as follows:



It's not like the OP was giving us any relevant information, such as which Best Buys had them in stock. No information was originally provided as hard sales numbers. No relevant information on the PS3 was provided at all. Hardly meriting a new thread, or a thoughtful discussion as you point out in your reply.

Instead, it seemed like just another reason to bash the PS3 and/or Sony. Like you, I was simply voicing my opinion, which why we are all here, correct?

esquire, your posts are a mixture of being childish and dumb, don't go this route. Don't behave like a fanboy and perceive justified, civilized, and analytical criticism about a game system as an ATTACK and try to suppress a discussion with 'Stop bashing Sony.' You can disagree with mancigames and me and others, but please, post some reasoning about the PS3 launch and its success; 'stop bashing Sony' is fanboyism at its best in particular if noone bashed anyone and there is no reason to do so!

PS: yes, I will buy a PS3 at some point, and yes, I probably have more PS2 games than you; and Sony did a great job as a hardware manufacturer AND publisher of games; and I love Nintendo and think the Wii is the retereat of Nintendo in the console market; and I have a Dreamcast and found opinions of Sega fanboys in the 90s as annoying as I find your posts now.

[ManciGames]

It's not like the OP was giving us any relevant information, such as which Best Buys had them in stock. No information was originally provided as hard sales numbers. No relevant information on the PS3 was provided at all. Hardly meriting a new thread, or a thoughtful discussion as you point out in your reply.

Instead, it seemed like just another reason to bash the PS3 and/or Sony. Like you, I was simply voicing my opinion, which why we are all here, correct?

Fair enough:

1) It was the the Best Buy on "The Strip" in North Canton. For the one or two of you reading this within driving distance, that's the one you want.

2) A blue shirt told me they are getting in about 25 a week now and usually have about five left over at the end of said weeks.

[ManciGames]

esquire, your posts are a mixture of being childish and dumb, don't go this route. Don't behave like a fanboy and perceive justified, civilized, and analytical criticism about a game system as an ATTACK and try to suppress a discussion with 'Stop bashing Sony.' You can disagree with mancigames and me and others, but please, post some reasoning about the PS3 launch and its success; 'stop bashing Sony' is fanboyism at its best in particular if noone bashed anyone and there is no reason to do so!

PS: yes, I will buy a PS3 at some point, and yes, I probably have more PS2 games than you; and Sony did a great job as a hardware manufacturer AND publisher of games; and I love Nintendo and think the Wii is the retereat of Nintendo in the console market; and I have a Dreamcast and found opinions of Sega fanboys in the 90s as annoying as I find your posts now.

Lendelin, I think you pretty much summed this up. I've got a bunch of PS2 games, and am still buying more each month. And I too will buy a PS3 when the games are right. I'd shell out $600 right now if FFXIII was available. But it's not. It's a barren wasteland on the PS3 right now, and I just don't understand the need to HAVE to launch this thing when they did, at the cost they did.

I have no wish to see the PS3 fail. Sony has done a lot of good for the industry. As someone else pointed out, it is just interesting to see how consumers react to each successive hardware release. Sega couldn't even *give away* Dreamcasts back in 2000 (literally) because people were waiting for PS2.

Here we are six years later, and Sony is having a rough go of it with the PS3.

The intent of the original post was twofold:

1) To let you know that if you really want one, they seem to be readily available. I'm sure some people gave up around the Christmas rush and may not realize they are out there now.

2) To comment on the juxtaposition the PS3 sales seem to be having with the Wii. Many people (including some on this board) thought Nintendo had lost their marbles with the Wii, but for now at least, their strategy seems to be paying off in spades. As a lover of all manufacturers of video games, I find it fascinating to see two distinct theories going to head to head.

If certain people want to label this as a fanboy post, I suggest they look in the mirror and ignore this thread. The rest of us will continue to have reasonable and mature conversations.

[Wavelflack]

"I think the PS3 is a fantastic piece of tech and will be around even ten years from now."


...at your neighborhood Big Lots.

[TurboGenesis]

I like the PS3. It is a fine machine and has a whole world of potential. I think Blast Factor is a great game and I think Gran Turismo HD looks wonderful and plays great as all Gran Turismo games do. I still look forward to VF5 and MGS4. Its to great shock to me as how easy it is to currently walk into any retailer and walk out with a PS3 no hassle when it was a different story November 17th.

I like the Nintendo Wii. It is a fine machine and I think the control scheme is fantastic. Wii sports has put a smile on everyone who comes over and plays it - many of these folks are not even into games casually and I think Wii Play will also entertain these folks. I find maximum enjoyment with Zelda TP and Excitetruck as well as Elebits and even Metal Slug. It is truly amazing how on November 19th many people didn't really know what the W-i-i or W II was and now many of my friends and co workers want this console and cannot find one anywhere and when a retailer gets some in they are promptly gone.

[ReaXan]

HD TV's,Blu-Ray and HD-DVD Players,HDMI Cables,its kinda confusing for someone who has a regular tv and a cheap apex dvd player sitting in their living room.

I think the majority of ''casual gamers'' are scared off by the pricetag of the PS3 and I use the word casual heavily because of the nature of this forum because we are all die hard gamers and collection.Most of us love games so much we will buy any new console that comes out,but besides us we have to look at the tons of other demographics out their who buy games and tech stuff.Most people are stupid when it comes to buying tech stuff,we all know that,even the people at places like Best Buy really dont know shit about the products when it comes down to it.People look at a Wii which is cheaper and has the name Nintendo and they think back to like 1988 and remember in the years since then how Nintendo has made quality products since then exept the Virtual Boy not withstanding.Sony hit the market with the PS2 when DVD technology looked to be the clear cut succesor to VHS,it was getting cheaper and the appeal of it hit everyone in just the right way.


Joe Q Consumer really isnt ready for the big investments the tech companys are wanting us to make.Most people just dont have the money to shell out huge prices for the most up to date tech stuff right now.Heck this whole everything in high defination is better gimmick can cost you up to 3000 dollars.Who honestly wants to spend that much to see the pimple better on someone's face or see an extremely clear African sky,I got enough going on in my life to worry about without being OCD and focusing on every imperfect detail in a movie or tv show.Some movies could benefit from an HD upgrade,but look at all the ones that won't.Honestly the point of TV is to entertain,not make it into some IMAX experience,but what the hell do I know right?


Since I am getting off topic I will get back on PS3 and I will sum it up in a nutshell

1.The price is too much right now,people would just rather wait till it drops 300 bucks,Blu-Ray or not,its not something the majority of the public has to have as of right now.

2.The hype by G4 and all the publications out their made us out to believe we were getting a can't miss system,hence why I dont watch G4 anymore because of shotty journalism and research on their part.I would never stand in line for a system ever,but thats just me.


3.I had a PS3 and I decided I should have stuck with the 360 until some the PS3 had a better library.In regards to the Wii,I dont hate the Wii,just the marketing campaign actually turned me off to the idea of getting one and I have loved Nintendo since a kid.

anyway thats my two cents,carry on