Hostility towards Collectors

[Gunstarhero]

I don't know about you, but I've seen some angry posts by people who passionately dislike Video Game Collectors/Collecting, and they aren't afraid to express it. Not on these boards, but other videogame Forums on the net. This place is a haven for collectors so we don't see any people ripping on them.

Any of you fellow collectors ever have to deal with someone who consistently rips on Collectors in other video game forums? I see posts by people who always have to add "not like some f%^&*! collector!", or "Those stupid %^&*( collectors, hoarding all the games, stupid morons!!!"

Is it just penis envy? Is that what it boils down too? To me, this is the same kind of behavior that persuades people to tell others what to do. To me, videogame collector haters(for lack of a better term) are the same people who whine about people who talk on cell phones in a restaraunt. They are the same type of people who think they have the right to tell you what car you should drive. What is it with these people that they can't mind their own damn business?

The other argument I see against Collectors is that the haters talk all this trash about how they are REAL gamers who PLAY their games. You've seen this stupid argument before I'm sure. Really? Your MORE of a gamer because you only have 4 games and an X-box? Your more of a gamer because you sell off all your games so you can keep up to date with the newest stuff? Lets see here, I have about 500 games with 12 systems that I play, not all the games of course, but who really has appreciation of video games? You Mr. Hater with your 4 games? I don't think so.

Anyone else wanna contribute?

[wberdan]

Is it just penis envy? Is that what it boils down too? To me, this is the same kind of behavior that persuades people to tell others what to do. To me, videogame collector haters(for lack of a better term) are the same people who whine about people who talk on cell phones in a restaraunt. They are the same type of people who think they have the right to tell you what car you should drive. What is it with these people that they can't mind their own damn business?


talking on cell phones in retauraunts is a lot like smoking in them, in my opinion.. the second hand smoke you would be breathing wouldnt necessarily pose a health risk to you, but it is ANNOYING AS HELL.
people seem to want to show off the fucking things, personally id like to jam them down their throats.

willie

[jaydubnb]

To me, videogame collector haters(for lack of a better term) are the same people who whine about people who talk on cell phones in a restaraunt. They are the same type of people who think they have the right to tell you what car you should drive. What is it with these people that they can't mind their own damn business?

Well, in the case of the cell phone in the restaraunt, those ppl ARE annoying. Nothing worse than trying to enjoy a meal and a convo with someone else when you have Joe Cellular yamming away behind you. My main gripe is that ppl on cells very rarely speak in normal tones. They always seem extra loud, as though strong vocals will improve the signal.



The other argument I see against Collectors is that the haters talk all this trash about how they are REAL gamers who PLAY their games. You've seen this stupid argument before I'm sure. Really? Your MORE of a gamer because you only have 4 games and an X-box? Your more of a gamer because you sell off all your games so you can keep up to date with the newest stuff? Lets see here, I have about 500 games with 12 systems that I play, not all the games of course, but who really has appreciation of video games? You Mr. Hater with your 4 games? I don't think so.

Anyone else wanna contribute?

I think most "collector-haters" bitch because there are quite a few collectors who buy up stuff that is hard to come by and just SIT on it. I personally know two so called "collectors" who get games for"future investment", never play em, and then have the nerve to brag how they own the greatest game(s) ever. WTF....? That makes no sense. Those types need to be beaten with a copy of X-Men for the NES. That'll learn em.

[lionforce]

LOL wow people actually brag about owning vidoegames, I really do feel sorry for those people, I am a collector and player of videogames, I consider it a passionate hobby, one that wil be with me til the day I die, but for gamers to hate collectors and for collectors to brag about owning this and owning that is pure nonsense LOL I mean, I guess if your'e a little kid who gets everygame he wants then I can understand those traits because little kids don't know any better (and I really do hope that is who you guys are refering to) but for grown ups like me to act like that is pretty sad and with that said, game on 8-)

[klimatron8]

People -can't we all just get along? The difference in the cell phone analogy is that while someone on a phone in a public place may annoy you -how the hell does what any one person does with games affect anyone else? How are you affected from my personal collecting and or playing habits???????? Total hilarity. Angry people are just angry people and should be avoided at all costs -period. Peace Out.

[maxlords]

Well, Screw em I say. I collect, but I collect to play. If they don't like it...screw em.

[jaydubnb]

LOL I mean, I guess if your'e a little kid who gets everygame he wants then I can understand those traits because little kids don't know any better (and I really do hope that is who you guys are refering to) but for grown ups like me to act like that is pretty sad and with that said, game on 8-)

Sadly, the two guys I'm speaking of are 25+. One of em owns an unopened Radiant Silvergun and constantly brags whenever we go to a gamestore about how he owns the "greatest shooter ever"...and he's never played the game in any way, shape or form to make any type of judgment @_@

[Kid Fenris]

Sadly, the two guys I'm speaking of are 25+. One of em owns an unopened Radiant Silvergun and constantly brags whenever we go to a gamestore about how he owns the "greatest shooter ever"...and he's never played the game in any way, shape or form to make any type of judgment @_@

If you want to be a bastard, look long and critically at his sealed copy, and then tell him that the game's been re-sealed. If he's a truly crazed collector (and he trusts you greatly), he'll be so overcome with uncertainty that he'll have to unwrap the game, and thus he'll end up playing it. Problem solved.

Seriously, game collectors who do nothing but hoard stuff remind me of those people who buy action figures and leave them in the package, in the insistent hope that they'll go up in value. If you want to invest in something, people, the financial world has far more profitable opportunities for you.

[Gunstarhero]

LOL I mean, I guess if your'e a little kid who gets everygame he wants then I can understand those traits because little kids don't know any better (and I really do hope that is who you guys are refering to) but for grown ups like me to act like that is pretty sad and with that said, game on 8-)

Sadly, the two guys I'm speaking of are 25+. One of em owns an unopened Radiant Silvergun and constantly brags whenever we go to a gamestore about how he owns the "greatest shooter ever"...and he's never played the game in any way, shape or form to make any type of judgment @_@

Well, that could be annoying, I've never been in contact with someone like that. I play every game I collect, if only to make sure it works, and if its fun, then I'll go back to it. I don't have any sealed games in my collection, whats the point of that?

I don't know anyone who brags about their collection either, but I have seen hostility towards collectors, such as complaining about stupid collectors paying such and such for a game and so on. Regardless, the point of my post still stands at why is it their business anyway? Personally, if someone wants a complete collection of sealed Saturn games, so be it, its no sweat off my back. I just think its awfully strange that their are gamers out there that think collectors are this evil group of golddiggers out to rip everyone off and keep the market value high by hoarding.

The cell phone analogy is used to demonstrate the gall people have concerning personal freedom. It applies here because collector-haters want to demean our choice of how we play and collect games, in essence trying to tell us how we 'should' live our lives. The only reason people hate others who use cell-phones in public, and this is gonna hurt some egos, is because alot of people are awfully NOSEY! Face it, it urks you when you hear someone on a cell phone because you can't hear the other end of the conversation, and that bugs the living shit out of people. A person on a cell phone isn't louder than the other patrons, you're just listening closer, you don't realize it, but you are because that person on the phone is catching your attention, so you inherently tune in and you think he is being louder, but in actuality he's probably speaking at normal tone, or even quieter than other patrons in the restaurant. Take away the phone, and you just have some guy talking! Do you tell the other people that are talking in the restaurant to Shush? Think about it. The only reasonable argument against cel users in restaurants is if they let their phone 'ring' instead of 'vibrate', that is a just complaint and a true distraction.

There is no difference between a guy on the phone talking to someone, and a couple talking to eachother. It just bugs the nosey people that they can't hear the other end of the phone conversation, so thus you believe somehow that you have the right to just end the phone conversation all together. This isn't intended as a flame, and I'm not directly talking to any one person here, but it is my take on the whole cel-phone debate and for the record, no I don't believe cel-phones should be allowed in Movie Theaters, since Theaters already have etiquette in place against talking during the movie, it is logical to keep talking devices out.

[Gunstarhero]

LOL wow people actually brag about owning vidoegames, I really do feel sorry for those people, I am a collector and player of videogames, I consider it a passionate hobby, one that wil be with me til the day I die, but for gamers to hate collectors and for collectors to brag about owning this and owning that is pure nonsense LOL I mean, I guess if your'e a little kid who gets everygame he wants then I can understand those traits because little kids don't know any better (and I really do hope that is who you guys are refering to) but for grown ups like me to act like that is pretty sad and with that said, game on 8-)

I didn't mean to make it sound like I go around to Forums braggin about how many games I have. In fact, I don't think I've ever involved myself with a thread that was basically an argument between collectors and collector haters, but I have read them, and I was just adding some of my personal thoughts, not what I actually go around saying. Thats why I opened this thread to see if anyone has dealt with these types of people. I've seen someone bitch about how stupid it is to have 1,000 games when only 10 of them get regular playtime, and then that same person goes and opens a thread stating how they can't wait to get some more Dragonball GT action figures. Whats the difference between collecting games and action figures? I think Dragonball GT is fucking stupid, but I don't care that someone collects them, thats their choice. Ah well, Game On! to you too :-D

[wberdan]

[quote="jaydubnb"][quote=lionforce]


I don't know anyone who brags about their collection either, but I have seen hostility towards collectors, such as complaining about stupid collectors paying such and such for a game and so on. Regardless, the point of my post still stands at why is it their business anyway?


well as for the people that are hostile- it IS kind of their business if game collectors are artificially jacking up prices on games that would otherwise be attainable.

willie

[wberdan]

[quote="jaydubnb"][quote=lionforce]

The cell phone analogy is used to demonstrate the gall people have concerning personal freedom. It applies here because collector-haters want to demean our choice of how we play and collect games, in essence trying to tell us how we 'should' live our lives. The only reason people hate others who use cell-phones in public, and this is gonna hurt some egos, is because alot of people are awfully NOSEY! Face it, it urks you when you hear someone on a cell phone because you can't hear the other end of the conversation, and that bugs the living shit out of people. A person on a cell phone isn't louder than the other patrons, you're just listening closer, you don't realize it, but you are because that person on the phone is catching your attention, so you inherently tune in and you think he is being louder, but in actuality he's probably speaking at normal tone, or even quieter than other patrons in the restaurant. Take away the phone, and you just have some guy talking! Do you tell the other people that are talking in the restaurant to Shush? Think about it. The only reasonable argument against cel users in restaurants is if they let their phone 'ring' instead of 'vibrate', that is a just complaint and a true distraction.

There is no difference between a guy on the phone talking to someone, and a couple talking to eachother. It just bugs the nosey people that they can't hear the other end of the phone conversation, so thus you believe somehow that you have the right to just end the phone conversation all together. This isn't intended as a flame, and I'm not directly talking to any one person here, but it is my take on the whole cel-phone debate and for the record, no I don't believe cel-phones should be allowed in Movie Theaters, since Theaters already have etiquette in place against talking during the movie, it is logical to keep talking devices out.


because people are NOSEY? are you for real? the only reason i hate people on cellphones is because they are loud and cocky, plus they dont pay attention to what the fuck they are doing. I dont give a shit about other peoples business, and anyone that knows me knows that.
you are definetely WAY off the mark there.

...and i can think of a big difference between talking to a phone and talking to another human. you are essentially talking to a robot messenger for fucks sake!!!! and by the way- apparently in your area people are 100% polite, but where i have been around cellphones (ESPECIALLY in restauraunts) those people are WAY louder than normal.


willie

[Raccoon Lad]

I don't blame collectors for jacking up prices, I blame uninformed noobs with bottemless bank accounts. Thanks to them, I don't think I'll ever find a SMS Ninja Gaiden for a good price.

[dsullo]

I can vouch that Willie does not have a cellphone. I asked him for his number , so that we can find eachother at the PhillyClassic.

Just for the record , I am not one of those loud annoying cellphone people. I just have a loud ringer that plays 'take me out to the ballgame.' I guess its just a little annoying.

Dustin :P

[brandver3]

I will have to admit i hate gamers that buy thing to sit and brag about how much it will be worth one day.

There is a guy that goes to one of my local games stores and buys up all the harder to find titles and brags about how much he can get for them later since he has so many copies. I.E. (actual quote from said person) "Alright, this is my fifth copy of Klonoa, I will be racking in the cash when i decide to sell in a few years."

I mean this guy reserved 10 Final Fantasy Origins cuase he is convinced it is the next Panzer Dragoon Saga.

And in a action figure collectors defense, I keep them in the package because that is the best way to display them, between all my hooked up systems and all my game stuff, i am out of flat surfaces.

I have lot of stuff i don't play, but i have it cause, A) it was cheap and rare, and B) I'm going to take it to the CGE for trading.

But i will admit I have heard this kind of anti-collector sentiment working at babbages. We get blamed for game's being un attainable ("I could get a Panzer Dragoon Saga if those fucking collectors would give it to someone who wants to play it, not fucking sit on it".) Or for Jaking up the prices ("I just wanted a DBZ final Bout, but those collector got in a bid war and now no one wants to sell it for less then $300. Fucking collectors".)

It's all pretty stupid, but hey, I guess thats just how it is....

[punkoffgirl]

To get away from the cellphone trip (which should be an entirely different thread itself!) I don't think I've ever run across anyone I would term a "collector-hater". Sure, the green-eyed monster pops up now and then when someone has what someone else wants, but that's about it. It doesn't make sense to me that someone else would hate someone because they collect video games. It would be like hating someone for owning more books or something.. I guess I'd have to see it to believe it. But the ONLY example I can think of that comes even close to this happening would be between regular gamer/collector types, and regular gamer/collector types who happen to own rare protos and don't want to dump the ROMs. But that's another story, another topic, and another thread.

ps- Willie DOES have a cell phone. It just stays in the car.

[slurpeepoop]

It happens a lot on launch day for new systems or games that are high-profile.

When the PS2 was launched, I heard endless amounts of bitching and complaining from people who didn't have enough sense to preorder one.

Everyone was complaining that the people who were actually recieving PS2s were either getting the launch systems to collect or sell on EBay. I personally got yelled at when I walked out of my local Software Etc. by a woman who said I was ruining her family's Christmas because I wouldn't sell the one I preordered.

The same sort of thing occurs with "collector" editions of games that come with goodies, from the Lunar launch to the Zelda pre-order discs.

[jaydubnb]

[quote=jaydubnb][quote=lionforce]

The cell phone analogy is used to demonstrate the gall people have concerning personal freedom. It applies here because collector-haters want to demean our choice of how we play and collect games, in essence trying to tell us how we 'should' live our lives. The only reason people hate others who use cell-phones in public, and this is gonna hurt some egos, is because alot of people are awfully NOSEY! Face it, it urks you when you hear someone on a cell phone because you can't hear the other end of the conversation, and that bugs the living shit out of people. A person on a cell phone isn't louder than the other patrons, you're just listening closer, you don't realize it, but you are because that person on the phone is catching your attention, so you inherently tune in and you think he is being louder, but in actuality he's probably speaking at normal tone, or even quieter than other patrons in the restaurant. Take away the phone, and you just have some guy talking! Do you tell the other people that are talking in the restaurant to Shush? Think about it. The only reasonable argument against cel users in restaurants is if they let their phone 'ring' instead of 'vibrate', that is a just complaint and a true distraction.

There is no difference between a guy on the phone talking to someone, and a couple talking to eachother. It just bugs the nosey people that they can't hear the other end of the phone conversation, so thus you believe somehow that you have the right to just end the phone conversation all together. This isn't intended as a flame, and I'm not directly talking to any one person here, but it is my take on the whole cel-phone debate and for the record, no I don't believe cel-phones should be allowed in Movie Theaters, since Theaters already have etiquette in place against talking during the movie, it is logical to keep talking devices out.


because people are NOSEY? are you for real? the only reason i hate people on cellphones is because they are loud and cocky, plus they dont pay attention to what the fuck they are doing. I dont give a shit about other peoples business, and anyone that knows me knows that.
you are definetely WAY off the mark there.

...and i can think of a big difference between talking to a phone and talking to another human. you are essentially talking to a robot messenger for fucks sake!!!! and by the way- apparently in your area people are 100% polite, but where i have been around cellphones (ESPECIALLY in restauraunts) those people are WAY louder than normal.


willie

LOL, my thoughts exactly. Try doing lunch/dinner in NYC (especially in Manhattan) and you'd be ready to grab a shotgun and climb to the nearest tower. It's not about being nosey, but having their conversations intruding into YOUR space not the other way around. Most speak louder than the average conversation level around them...one of the drawbacks of speaking into a device who's reception can fade in and out at any given second. Besides, a truly nosey person wouldnt care if they couldnt heathe other person...they'd sit and listen and try to piece together the convo regardless because, sadly, they have absolutely nothing better to do.

But back to the topic: Collectors generally have one thing in common that everyone can appreciate...they take care of their goods! If I'm gonna buy/trade a game off of someone it better damn well be a collector, because those "very casual " types always seem to have fingerprints and sticky stuff all over their discs and cigerette burns in their carts. And I don't think being a collector has anything to do with the size of your gaming library either, but how you maintain it (organization, preserving it to be as mint as possible, etc).

[portnoyd]

because people are NOSEY? are you for real? the only reason i hate people on cellphones is because they are loud and cocky, plus they dont pay attention to what the fuck they are doing. I dont give a shit about other peoples business, and anyone that knows me knows that.
you are definetely WAY off the mark there.

And this is why cell phones are illegal to use when driving in NY, and probably other states. They concentrate on talking, and not on driving. Really bad.

And I've never ran into any collector haters. Which is weird, because I'm definitely one of those people "who drive the price up for everyone". Because you know there's a mad rush out there of people who want to play the Action 52 x_x

dave

[Gunstarhero]

because people are NOSEY? are you for real? the only reason i hate people on cellphones is because they are loud and cocky, plus they dont pay attention to what the fuck they are doing. I dont give a shit about other peoples business, and anyone that knows me knows that.
you are definetely WAY off the mark there.

Yes I'm for real. Thats my stance. If people would mind their own business and let others live their life, we wouldn't have this argument. This is the same kind of thinking that drives people like Ariana Huffington to launch a campaign telling us what vehicles we should be driving. You wanna talk about the inconvienience you suffer because some guy is talking on his cel-phone in a restaurant? Get some perspective man, he's just Talking! Forget about the Phone for a second. I'll ask again, do you get annoyed and complain when 2 people are talking face to face in your presence?

Its not an intrusion on your life because some guy is talking on his cel-phone for a couple minutes, sitting in the booth next to you. An intrusion is people who have the nerve to tell others(adults) how they should live, what they should wear, and how they should behave in their presence. Now, if this guy was standing on your front porch talking jive on his cel-phone without an invitation to be at your home, THEN you have a right to do something about it.

Now, I agree their are certain untold etiquette rules that should be followed when in restaurants, theaters, parks etc...but if someone is breaking Etiquette, like talking loud on a cel-phone, well so what, I'm not gonna go down to city hall and demand that a law be made to suit ME, just to satiate some desire to seem powerfull, knowing that I stifled some guys Freedom. That should be left up to the Restuarant Proprietor. Cities like San Fransico should be ashamed for passing stupid laws requring all restaurants(which are PRIVATE businesses) to ban cel-phones. If Restaurants were Government properties, then maybe they could have some jurisdiction here, but the stupidity of San Fransicans to allow this kind of nonsense to persist in their city amazes me.

I'm not way off the mark in any sense, I just don't get annoyed by people on cel-phones because I realize that there is no difference between 2 people talking face to face, or over the phone, and it doesnt' bother me that I don't know whats at the other end of a phone conversation because I pay it no mind in the first place. Maybe its just some super ability I have to be able to not pay attention to people on cel-phones. ;)

[Eternal Champion]

I don't think the cell-phone analogy applies, nor does "personal freedom" have anything to do with it...but the point about collector's driving up prices is a valid one, in any niche specialty market. Take Chrono Trigger for SNES. I tried in vain to get a decent somewhat-complete copy on Ebay--there were several buyers bidding on SEVERAL copies at once. And this particular buyer had ALREADY won several CT auctions. WTF??? Hoarding. Fuck these people. I just want to play the damn game, and I happen to like to get things in good condition with most of their materials. Like buying it new. Why is that so fucking hard?
Another problem is that people sell off the materials separately--the cart separate from the box and manual, for instance. I really have it in for a specific buyer on Ebay because of this.....So yes, I have much disdain for particular aspects of "collecting". Speculators in any market are fuckin' pondscum.

[drumguy79]

An intrusion is people who have the nerve to tell others(adults) how they should live, what they should wear, and how they should behave in their presence

Kinda like people who want to control what other people are allowed to bitch about?


Your MORE of a gamer because you only have 4 games and an X-box? Your more of a gamer because you sell off all your games so you can keep up to date with the newest stuff?

Learn to use you're properly jackass.


What is it with these people that they can't mind their own damn business?


I agree with you about this... so mind your own damn business.

[Eternal Champion]

Ver. 2.0: Of course, Ebay being a market, people can whatever the hell they want. So I'm just complaining. Maybe some people get multiple copies for a retail business. I would do the same. The greater issue for me is why it's so hard to get complete games. Even for very popular games that high production runs. Like Chrono Trigger for fuck's sake!! I can't believe I'd have to pay close to its original retail value of $75. That seems crazy to me. But I've seen on other forums that Funcoland and Gamestop THROW AWAY manuals and boxes!! That's probably a big factor. They're high on my shitlist anyway. That just moved 'em up a few notches.

[Bratwurst]

Eh, I generally only collect the older stuff anyways.. if anyone's going to complain about that, then it's only because they're a collector type themselves. :D I'm pretty casual about it.

[bargora]

People who use cell phones in restaurants = OK
People who shout into cell phones in restaurants = pricks

Videogame collectors = OK
Videogame hoarders = pricks

Any questions?

[Bratwurst]

Just one, bargora-

Should I serve my next baby with honey roast barbecue, or orange glaze?

[chadtower]

And this has officially degenerated to uselessness. When a net argument is reduced to grammar complaints it is officially dead.

BTW, Mick Foley isn't the greatest of all time but he may well be #2... WOOOOOOOOO...

BANG BANG

[portnoyd]

Wasn't this thread about hostility towards collectors?

dave

[Achika]

People who use cell phones in restaurants = OK
People who shout into cell phones in restaurants = pricks

Videogame collectors = OK
Videogame hoarders = pricks

Any questions?

:hail: Perfectly stated. Collectors and Hoarders are truely two types.

Oh, and add People who use two way cellphones in public places = Hellbound

I hate them, they are loud, noisy, and use unnecessary noisy! >squak< >SQUAK< >fizzle<

[chadtower]

Wasn't this thread about hostility towards collectors?

dave

Yeah, I was responding to a sig of one of the posters... but it took me so damn long to do it I got beat by like 4 other people and now my post looks out of context.

[chadtower]

[quote=bargora]People who use cell phones in restaurants = OK
Oh, and add People who use two way cellphones in public places = Hellbound

I hate them, they are loud, noisy, and use unnecessary noisy! >squak< >SQUAK< >fizzle<

Yep. I don't need to hear you shouting into a device about how the fucking honey ham is $.50 cheaper per lb than the spiced ham. At least be rude enough to call them and shout into the phone in a real time conversation, or god forbid, you make a decision without consulting someone else to make it for you.

[Gunstarhero]

Wasn't this thread about hostility towards collectors?

dave

Yes, sorry it has degenerated into what it has. Apparantley had I not included the cellphone analogy, things would have been different. I had no intentions of getting into that debate when I started the thread.

Apparently their is two distinctions between collectors that I didn't consider, that of Hoarders and just Collector gamers? Even with Hoarders I don't have a problem because games are produced in such mass numbers I can't imagine a few hoarders on Ebay are driving the market value up on any games. Never met any Hoarders by the way. Besides, the Buyers set the market price, not the Sellers.

[bargora]

Sir Bratwurst: While both are tempting, I would have to recommend Orange Glaze. Because I find that baby tastes like duck.

Kid Fenris: You are an evil genius.

And now maybe we can get past the cell phone thing. We know "hoarders" are bad, but what exactly is a hoarder? Is it someone who owns a game but never opens it? Never plays it? Or is it someone who owns a bunch of copies of a game? If the latter, how many copies of a game would you have to buy to be a hoarder?

I mean, it seems to me that these people on the other forums (AS IF their opinions matter--STUPID OTHER FORUMS) should really be complaining about

uninformed noobs with bottemless bank accounts
who jack up the price on ebay, not "collectors". Collectors in general seem to
(1) be too knowledgeable, and
(2) not have enough extra money, because they buy a lot of games,
to blow money out their asses on ridiculous bids.


Gunstarhero, what are these other, inferior, collector-hating-gnome-infested forums that you are talking about?
I want to go stir up trouble. :devilish:

I HAEV FIVE SAELED RAIDENT SILVERGNUS AND I JUST RUB THEM B3TWEEN MY BUTT CHEEK5 HAHAHAHAHAH ROFLMAO

[Bratwurst]

A call to arms! The Collector's Crusades!!!! I will join you so we may strike them at either flank for a SNEAK ATTACK OF HILARITY

[Gunstarhero]

bargora wrote:

We know "hoarders" are bad, but what exactly is a hoarder? Is it someone who owns a game but never opens it? Never plays it? Or is it someone who owns a bunch of copies of a game? If the latter, how many copies of a game would you have to buy to be a hoarder?

Great question, because I've never encountered such a person, so I've not put much thought into it, if any. Maybe we are talking about a person who knows videogames, doesn't necessarily play them alot, but knows enough to know which game series/types regularly increase in value over time. This person buys more than one copy of a game specifically to sell it when it seems the market is 'hottest' for that game in the future. It can't be simply someone who owns a bunch of copies of a game because I'm sure plenty of us have acquired numerous copies of games simply by buying up peoples collections.

Still I don't have any problem with someone buying 4 copies of a game in hopes of future investment, I mean everyone has some way they want to make money. There's just to many games made for so-called hoarders to affect market price IMHO. In the end, I don't think its the collectors that are causing prices of games to rise, to the contrary, its Joe-Gamer who doesn't take care of the games, throws out the packaging, and eventually even loses it or maybe even throws it away etc.. The loss of games, not the collection of games is what I feel ultimately raises market values of games. There are other considerations, but I feel the main reason is this one.

So how would I define a hoarder? Well, it obviously has a negative connotation to the word, so a hoarder represents the bad side of game collecting.

Hoarder: A person who owns 2 or more sealed copies of a videogame for no other purpose than to sell for a profit in the future, meanwhile possibly keeping market values for rare games unnessarily high.

Hows that?


Gunstarhero, what are these other, inferior, collector-hating-gnome-infested forums that you are talking about?

Well, I don't want to name names becuase thats not my intention here. This was just something I randomly thought up as a topic while I was working yesterday. It didn't quite go so well, and I may have stepped on some toes and I apologize to anyone if I did.

[bargora]

OK, so you're saying that it's the speculators that are the hoarders that are bad. Fair enough.

It's too bad you won't spill where all the collector hate is pooling, though. I do so love a rhubarb.