DKC Competition Cart and the Blockbuster World Championship

[badinsults]

I am starting work on an article on the Donkey Kong Country Competition Cart. First off, I was wondering if someone who has the cart could make a scan of the label. I want to make something like this:

http://snescentral.edgeemu.com/0/4/4/0448/SNS-ANLE-USA.jpg

I don't need a fully edited image, just the raw scan of the front and top of the label. I can merge together the scans myself. I would prefer the scan be in 300 DPI or higher. Also, if anyone has other DKC Competition related things, that would be great. I have some decent scans from an old ebay auction that I got permission to use, but they have watermarks on them, so I would prefer not to use them.

I have a nice article on the Blockbuster Chamionship from the December 1995 issue of Gamepro. Leon Kane from the UK was the winner of the Snes competition (Ricky Fraser from Florida won the Genesis competition). It appears the championship was held in San Francisco from August 19-21, 1995. Games used in the final include NBA Live 95, Kirby's Avalanche, and Zoop. The final matchup used Batman Forever (Acclaim was a main sponsor). Winners got a $5000 scholarship. After the competition, the 11 finalists got a tour of Gamepro, and were given the opportunity to rate games.

If anyone participated in the competition at any level, it would be great to hear about your experiences!

[orrimarrko]

You may get some negative feedback about wanting to make a scan of the label. Not saying that you would do this, but having just a scan and the ability to print a label could lend to selling fake carts.

Again, not saying that you would do this, but it is certainly possible that someone could.

For that reason, you may not get someone to scan the label for you.

Just a thought.

Good luck though on your article.

Steve

[AcePuppy]

You may get some negative feedback about wanting to make a scan of the label. Not saying that you would do this, but having just a scan and the ability to print a label could lend to selling fake carts.

Again, not saying that you would do this, but it is certainly possible that someone could.

For that reason, you may not get someone to scan the label for you.

Just a thought.

Good luck though on your article.

Steve

My thoughts exactly.

[Vectorman0]

I would suggest just using the cart picture from wikipedia, I would imagine it will suffice.

[raregamergirl]

Hate to say it, but I saw this thread and thought the exact same thing. I own two DKC Comp carts (one is actually complete) and I would not upload high quality scans of mine as its just inviting someone to try to fake it. There is also no way I would scan the artwork (outer case) for the DKC comp cart as it is again just asking people to fake it.

[Nicola]

As I've already told, the Blockbuster one is really easy to fake...

[Three-P]

Reminds me that more than a decade ago, I participated in one of those Blockbuster competitions. Instead of Donkey Kong Contry, I went for the NBA Jam/Judge Dredd game. (I didn't win, but I did better than average.)

[badinsults]

response revoked

[8bitnes]

Well, you guys are a lot of help. Quit being so anal retentive. That is what I hate about a lot of collectors, all they think about is their money.

If you don't want help me out with my article, that is fine. But stay out of my thread.

I'm surprised that someone with so many posts would have such a negative attitude about very valid concerns. Why should they stay out of "your" thread? I have a strong feeling that to get this you are going to need to buy the cartridge yourself, especially after dismissing their comments.

Besides if you are writing an article for a profitable purpose (I don't know if you are one way or the other), such as inclusion in a magazine, buying the cartridge would be a valid business expense that would be reimbursed or written off.

[scooterb23]

And I'm guessing on the other hand it's surprising that someone with so many posts can't find one person to help out with a request for an interesting sounding research project.

[badinsults]

I'm surprised that someone with so many posts would have such a negative attitude about very valid concerns. Why should they stay out of "your" thread? I have a strong feeling that to get this you are going to need to buy the cartridge yourself, especially after dismissing their comments.

Besides if you are writing an article for a profitable purpose, such as inclusion in a magazine, buying the cartridge would be a valid business expense that the publisher would pay for, or reimburse, or at least be a tax write-off.

Well, if you click on my profile, and look link to my website, you will know I don't write for any magazine. I think that information should be free and accessable to everyone. I have created articles on the Powerfest 94 and Campus Challenge competition carts, and I want to do the same for the DKC and Star Fox carts as well. I fully intend to buy these carts as soon as I have the money to do so, but I am still a university student. I have no aspirations on making money on my hobby, which is to research snes games. My website does not have ads, and I greatly thank everyone who contributes. I thought that I would have more support from the gaming community, but then I guess I shouldn't be so shocked. Just another thing to be cynical about, I guess.

If you are interested (and I sincerely doubt you guys are by your attitudes), here are the links to the other two competition cart articles I have done.

http://snescentral.edgeemu.com/article.php?id=0812
http://snescentral.edgeemu.com/article.php?id=0790

[Sothy]

I too have 3 Competition carts and will not help you in your nefarious plot to mass produce these and flood the market. Millions of people would flock to purchase them and decrease my investment. What do you think Im here because I love Videogames? NO! I am an investment banker you imbecile!

Now if you will excuse me im going to stare at some unreleased protos and pleasure myself in my parents basement.

[CosmicMonkey]

Sothy wins. End of thread......

[Hardcore]

I participated at my local Blockbuster. I did get past that first phase, but my mother wouldn't let me continue on. :(

[raregamergirl]

There is a difference between wanting to make sure that fakes dont enter the market and wanting to be able to enjoy your games. I own two DKC comp carts. One I just managed to buy very recently. I only purchased it as it was complete and I will either trade off my other copy or sell it.
It would be very easy for a person to simply print out a high quality label and paste it on a SNES cart and pass it off as the original. I dont think the point of this has so much to do with money as much as to make sure fakes cant enter the market.
Not sure why that makes anyone who owns it terrible for not sharing it with others.

[mezrabad]

Well, you guys are a lot of help. Quit being so anal retentive. That is what I hate about a lot of collectors, all they think about is their money.


Why shouldn't they care about the value of something on which they've spent their money? Earning money takes work, some work takes blood, sweat and tears. Who are you to imply that people shouldn't care about what they've worked hard to acquire?

Look, loose any attitude that your quest to find and share videogame information is any nobler than Sothy's quest to find collectibles and tug-off in their general vicinity.



If you don't want help me out with my article, that is fine. But stay out of my thread.

LOL Yeah, I'll get on that right away.



Well, if you click on my profile, and look link to my website, you will know I don't write for any magazine. I think that information should be free and accessable to everyone.

If you feel that way then why the notice at the bottom of your site?


© Evan G. This site made by a Canadian, and fueled by beer. Do not use material on this site without permission.

I'll take a guess and say that it's because you've worked your ass off on making that site what it is and it shows. You'd like someone to give you the courtesy of at least getting permission to use the results born from your blood, sweat and tears. Why is that? Is it because all you think about is the time and work you put into your site?

[s1lence]

Wait a second. All you are asking for is for a scan of the game and maybe some info on people that competed in the contest so you can document it? People are thinking you are trying to profit from this? Didn't you all know that Evan is a billionare???

Seriously I've very surprised by the negativity of people posting in here. For Shame all of you guys, for shame. Normally people would be jumping all over this, but all you guys are pointing out whats wrong with his idea.

[Vectorman0]

Well, you guys are a lot of help. Quit being so anal retentive. That is what I hate about a lot of collectors, all they think about is their money.


If you don't want help me out with my article, that is fine. But stay out of my thread.

Instead of stating how I agreed with what had already been said, I tried to be of help and suggested something else.

Now I have to ask, why a high res scan of the label? I mean, is the upside down spine really necessary for your article?

Anyway, I can't wait to read your article as this competition is something I'd like to know more about.

[badinsults]

Instead of stating how I agreed with what had already been said, I tried to be of help and suggested something else.

Now I have to ask, why a high res scan of the label? I mean, is the upside down spine really necessary for your article?

Anyway, I can't wait to read your article as this competition is something I'd like to know more about.

Well, the reason why I want a high quality scan, is because I want high quality scans of all snes cart labels. It may not be directly related to the article itself, but it is something that I would like. I do not take stuff off of wikipedia, mainly because I have had problems in the past of people taking stuff off my site without permission and using in on Wikipedia. The same goes with IGN. I have no problems with people asking me for particular items off my site for their own articles and whatnot, but I request that they ask me first.

I seriously doubt that anyone is going to up and make pirates of the competition cart just because the costs are too high to produce them. As for printing off a label and and selling an fake cart? Again, what is stopping people from doign that now? I have seen ebay auctions where people just take pictures from old auctions (including pictures from my own site) and pas it off as their own. Really, ebay is a buyers beware situation anyway.

Any cart scan that I have made has been downsized so that it would be almost impossible to pass it off as a fake, just because it is too low resolution. I keep the 300+DPI versions on my hard drive as a reference.


I'm sorry I had such a harsh response, but this isn't the first time I have had a thread derailed...

[DreamTR]

This is the most ridiculous thread ever. Do you guys have any idea how MANY DKC comp carts there are? HUNDREDS. I am surprised there is not a high res scan available YET.

And about fakes, uh....you need to get the ROM inside the cart you know? It's not that simple. Would be a pain in the ass, and think about it, this would have been DONE by now.

In comparison, where were all of you when rob budrick was requesting scans for NWC carts? Sure, those are hard to fake as well (because of the dip switch) but this will go with ANYTHING.

How about hi res scans of Stadium Events NTSC? That's a $700 cart, I don't see copies of those flying anywhere.

SNES Central is a preservation site, not a copying site. If you guys want to go after people that "copy" things, just look at the eBay community for what happens when repros of unreleased 2600/Coleco/NES stuff comes on the forefront.

[Nicola]

The Blockbuster cart can be faked by ANYONE.

Just take an Acclaim shell, print the scan with your printer, black and white, not glossy, and you're done.
The only way to check if it's real is to watch the inside.

There are currently 3 person in this site that I know for sure that they have the cart. One is me.
I've got the booklets too, with some more infos. If you want scans of these, to get more infos, just pm me.

At the moment, I think it's better if I don't give you the scan of the cart. Too easy to fake. But it can be discussed.
Not for the value of my cart (I don't mind since I didn't buy it to sell it) but because it's the easiest competiton cart to fake: very symple label, very symple case, no serial number (like NWC)...repros docet on eBay.

It has been dumped, but was the ROM released? If the ROM isn't free, then it would become almost impossible to fake it. Only an owner of the original might fake it.

[DreamTR]

Nicola: You are confused. He and I are referring to the DONKEY KONG Blockbuster SNES cart, not the Genesis one. EVAN runs a SNES site, that's why I do not see why this is a big deal.

[Nicola]

Nicola: You are confused. He and I are referring to the DONKEY KONG Blockbuster SNES cart, not the Genesis one. EVAN runs a SNES site, that's why I do not see why this is a big deal.

Oh ...


...

...please don't edit or delete my posts. These must remain there forever. The shame for my confusion must remain impressed in my future.


*runs away crying*






....again, if Evan G wants some scans of the booklets, 2 of these were the same for the competition.

[mezrabad]

I'm sorry I had such a harsh response, but this isn't the first time I have had a thread derailed...

Well, I can understand that. Asking a question and getting told why you shouldn't ask the question or why you won't like the answer to the question is certainly frustrating. My response to your response was harsher than it probably needed to be, but Hey, I did say that your site showed you've put a lot of work into it! That's a positive post! :embarrassed:

[badinsults]

Perhaps I should clarify some more as well. Snes Central is a project I have worked on for over 6 years now. I perhaps don't put as much work into it as the people at the Genesis Collective, but it is my hobby. As an extension to that, I collect high resolution scans. I don't put 300DPI versions of the scans on the site, and I never will. I scale them down to about 60% of that. Along those same lines, I am looking for high resolution scans of all snes-related items. The reason why I want that is because it is easier to fix an imperfection on a high resolution scan than a lower resolution scan. I place the high resolution scans in a folder, like this:

http://evan.whattheboat.com/WHAT/folder-scans.png

I have no nefarious intensions here. I am not putting up 0.5+ MB png scans of carts on my site. I am just doing what the Genesis Collective did for the Genesis, and what Cowering intends to do with the NES. And that is to make a free database with information on snes games. I figured I had been around here long enough that people would know that, but I guess I shouldn't have made assumptions.

[Sothy]

When you "assume" you make an ass of u and me Evan.

Now drag yer Hong Kong Pokemon card bootleggin ass back to Vbender.

[AcePuppy]

The Blockbuster cart can be faked by ANYONE.

Just take an Acclaim shell, print the scan with your printer, black and white, not glossy, and you're done.
The only way to check if it's real is to watch the inside.

There are currently 3 person in this site that I know for sure that they have the cart. One is me.
I've got the booklets too, with some more infos. If you want scans of these, to get more infos, just pm me.

At the moment, I think it's better if I don't give you the scan of the cart. Too easy to fake. But it can be discussed.
Not for the value of my cart (I don't mind since I didn't buy it to sell it) but because it's the easiest competiton cart to fake: very symple label, very symple case, no serial number (like NWC)...repros docet on eBay.

It has been dumped, but was the ROM released? If the ROM isn't free, then it would become almost impossible to fake it. Only an owner of the original might fake it.

The rom has been released for both the Genesis and DKC Competition cart. :) Not hard to find via google either. :)

[skaar]

I think you're just being paranoid. Evan's an archivist, not a profiteer. Anyone who's known him and what he does knows that.

Get your head out of your ass.

[Kamino]

I too have 3 Competition carts and will not help you in your nefarious plot to mass produce these and flood the market. Millions of people would flock to purchase them and decrease my investment. What do you think Im here because I love Videogames? NO! I am an investment banker you imbecile!

Now if you will excuse me im going to stare at some unreleased protos and pleasure myself in my parents basement.
Word.

[kai123]

If you need a high res scan of the star fox competition cart send me a pm.

[swlovinist]

Evan I wish I could help you out. If he is ok with helping you, I can help him scan the images. I hope it all works out for you. Thanks, John

[badinsults]

Nah, this thread is ancient. I actually own both competition carts now myself, so I can get the scans I need. Blame Kamino for necroposting. :p

[DigitalSpace]

EDIT: Nevermind.

[rbudrick]

I have 100 cases of these carts, in case anyone reading wants to start pirating. I will flood the market and destroy your wily plan if you even dare.

Can't wait to see you article. So you have scans of the Gamepro article?

-Rob

[thahurricanegame]

I was in this competition and beat the Sh%T out of everyone in Canada..I won for the store and went to the semi finals (before you got your shake at Florida finals) which was at the Hockey Hall of Fame in Toronto and beat the living Sh%t out of everyone in NBA jam..I think it was four quarters and naturally whomever had the better score won...I just remember one thing..it was a long competition..I was focused..nobody could shake me..people wanted tips..I sat there and ignored them lol..but at the end I was smiling..I will post pics...check out the other thread I have "bumped" for some pics as well

The thread is entitled "Blockbuster World Championship "