Don't you hate it when...

[Zadoc]

Don't you hate it when you're collecting for one system in particular and the big expensive and elusive rare games for the system are really not special at all?

For example, I am collecting for 32X right now, and the second most rare game for the system is World Series Baseball Starring D. Sanders. There is really nothing speical about this except for Sanders' name is in the title. Otherwise, it's just a port of a Genesis game with next to no graphical improvements.

Things like this just bug me.

Also, for 32X everyone knows that a complete Spiderman: Web of Fire will command about $150. Now, I don't mind paying $200 for a masterpiece such as Panzer Dragoon Saga, but $150 for a beat-em-up game that is only slightly better than par is hard for me to do.

But, like many here, I will do it.

What's even worse is if the rare game has completely uninteresting box art and booklet.

P.S. Thanks to agbulls for hooking me up with Pitfall: The Mayan Adventure for 32X! I've been hunting this one for two years!

[XYXZYZ]

I always wondered if things like Cheetahmen II were any good. But really, I hate it when I'm collecting for one system in particular and the big expensive and elusive rare games for the system are the primary ones that interest me! (PC Engine, Saturn) From a players perspective.

[bangtango]

Don't you hate it when you're collecting for one system in particular and the big expensive and elusive rare games for the system are really not special at all?

For example, I am collecting for 32X right now, and the second most rare game for the system is World Series Baseball Starring D. Sanders. There is really nothing speical about this except for Sanders' name is in the title. Otherwise, it's just a port of a Genesis game with next to no graphical improvements.

Things like this just bug me.

Also, for 32X everyone knows that a complete Spiderman: Web of Fire will command about $150. Now, I don't mind paying $200 for a masterpiece such as Panzer Dragoon Saga, but $150 for a beat-em-up game that is only slightly better than par is hard for me to do.

But, like many here, I will do it.

What's even worse is if the rare game has completely uninteresting box art and booklet.

I'd be open to playing World Series Baseball regularly on the 32X so why couldn't something like Tempo have been the 2nd most rare title? Heh heh :)

[Captain Wrong]

That's why I'm not a collector anymore.

[Arasoi]

Castlevania for the Amiga is a very rare game. I only sighted it once in 6 years, and payed out the nose to own it for the collection, over 500 bucks.

And the game itself is nothing less than a travesty against mankind. Worst game I've ever played, just because its a BEYOND BAD version of CV1, so horrifically ugly that it sucks the amusement of its campyness right out of you and leaves you a desiccated husk of despair and woe.

Well, maybe not quite that bad. But pretty damn close.

Some things are rare for a reason.

[SaturnFan]

I only collect the games I like and it's just icying on the cake when a rare games turns out to be the best for the console, like Panzer Saga. If it's rare and crappy I don't need it.

[agbulls]

I only collect the games I like and it's just icying on the cake when a rare games turns out to be the best for the console, like Panzer Saga. If it's rare and crappy I don't need it.

Is Panzer REALLY that good? I've thought about picking it up over the years for my Saturn collection.

[mailman187666]

Panzer is pretty good for its age but it seems limited on the whole leveling up aspect and the whole customization of it all. But if you are a Saturn collector, Its worth getting.

[Zadoc]

I only collect the games I like and it's just icying on the cake when a rare games turns out to be the best for the console, like Panzer Saga. If it's rare and crappy I don't need it.

I am like that as well, except I made and exception for 32X and Microvision, just because I wanted to own complete collections for at least one system, and the libraries for these two are small.

Also, for some strange reason 32X has a very special place in my heart. I got the 32X for Christmas in 1995, which was right when my father died, so my 32X was the one good thing in my life at a very horrible time. (Dead father, new school, no friends yet.)

Forever, the only game I had for it was Doom. Then I picked up Knuckles Choatix and Star Wars Arcade. My 32X collection remained at those three for nearly five years. When I was a kid, I rented a lot of the games from Blockbuster. The first game that I bought for 32X as an adult was MetalHead, which I loved when I was a boy.

To tell the truth, the reason why I started collecting retro games in the first place was because I really wanted to go back and buy all of the games that I wanted when I was a kid, but could not afford.

Since I had a Genesis growing up I immediately went on a buying spree. And I am the kind of person who had to have the complete games. One time my dad told me I needed to save the box and instructions for just about everything, so I always have. Honestly, I never understood people who throw their boxes away.

I also started buy niche things like Atari Jaguar, Sega CD, and Virtual Boy, which looked cool to me as a kid, reading about them in magazines, but I had never really seen them.

I also became fascinated by the history of videogames, and that made retro collecting even more appealing to me. I bought the first complete 1972 Magnavox Odyssey that I found on eBay. And I've bought half a dozen off of eBay since. Two years later, I still don't have a working Odyssey unit! I then bought a Microvision, amung many others!

So, I started to work on this Game Database for this website called www.consolecity.com/games . Genesis being my favorite console from my youth, I started working on adding all of the games with boxart. The Genesis database is now complete. But in researching all of the Genesis games, I used a PDF from this website as a checklist - and that's how I found Digital Press.

Once here, I was really impressed by the massive collections that a lot of you have. I thought it would be really cool to own an complete collection in something. While thinking about this, I spyed the yellow from a 32X game sitting on my shelf. I remembered the joy that this little misunderstood console brought to me as a kid. With only 36 US releases, I decided to track them all down.

To be honest, I hadn't played most of them, and had no interest in many of them. But, this is my little tribute, so to speak, to the 32X, which never gets its due credit, is the butt of constant jokes, is always underestimated, and ultimately misunderstood.

So, for every other console, I collect only the games that I like from a playing perspective, (with the Saturn this means the expensive and rare titles). With the 32X, I have no interest in playing Quarterback Club or Scottie Pippen, but I owe it one.

[DigitalSpace]

The reason why 32X World Series Baseball is expensive instead of just being "another rare game that sucks" is because almost everybody who collects goes for a complete 32X collection first because there are so few games for it. Therefore, demand is created and the people who will pay any amount to have WSB drive the price up.

[jajaja]

Some things are rare for a reason.

Hehe true that. Many of the rare games sux ass. So its no suprise that not many bought them when they were new.

[SegaAges]

Welcome to my world of trying to get metal warriors for snes for a good price (under 10). I think the game is awesome, and I like it because I used to play it when I was a kid, but it is strangely expensive (I usually find it for 30 and above, and for a college student, that is expensive for me).

[Kevincal]

Personally I think it's ridiculous to pay over $75 for ANY game, no matter how good it is.

[zer0cool]

The only system im going for a complete collection for is the NES.Im really not looking forward to buying a stadium events...hell i own it as world class trackmeet.Often i consider abandoning my goal and just collecting games i consider fun.I have so many NES sports titles and the only ones i play are ice hockey and little league baseball...occasionally.

[Technosis]

I always wondered if things like Cheetahmen II were any good.

Speaking of rare crappiness, take Action 52 for the Genesis (or NES). Expensive but not likely something you'll play much

[Fighter17]

I really hate that shitty rare game in a collection.

A orginal print of Air Cars for the Jaguar cost a lot of money, and it's terrible.

[starchildskiss78]

Speaking of rare crappiness, take Action 52 for the Genesis (or NES). Expensive but not likely something you'll play much

Rhino had one that was originally $17.99 (but on clearance) that was cart only but since they changed to Gamestop they wouldn't sell it because it wasn't in their system.

[bangtango]

The reason why 32X World Series Baseball is expensive instead of just being "another rare game that sucks" is because almost everybody who collects goes for a complete 32X collection first because there are so few games for it. Therefore, demand is created and the people who will pay any amount to have WSB drive the price up.

I still don't get it. There is garbage like Motocross Championship and Cosmic Carnage that go for virtually nothing. WSB was one of Sega's "money" games, in their mind, so they surely manufactured enough copies to go around. You'd think the price would be more reasonable, compared to other games in the library. It goes for more money than RBI Baseball 95, which must have had a smaller production number and lower sales. It doesn't make any sense.

[Zadoc]

Is Panzer REALLY that good? I've thought about picking it up over the years for my Saturn collection.

Yes, it really is. Let me share with you all my PDS story. So, it's the year 2000 and I just bought my Dreamcast on 9.9.99... and I am loving it! However, this is early 2000 and we all remember that the DC had a horrible drought until Crazy Taxi. So, I am in Game Crazy and they have a copy of PDS for $49.99 used and complete and in mint condition.

I don't know a lot about this game aside from the hype surrounding it and its normal value of $200ish. I also know that I dislike turn-based RPGs. I buy it, give it a chance. I completely loved it. To this day, the best game I've ever played. That was just such an amazing gaming experience. It really changed me as a gamer forever.

Also, PSO is on the horizon and is getting lots of hype. I never played the originals because I hated turn based RPGs. So, I decide that I should play some Phantasy Star before PSO comes out. What do I do? I trade PDS for Phantasy Star IV. It wasn't even enough. What an idiot I am.

The dude who I traded it into was the same dude who sold it to me. He asked, "What, you didn't like it?"

"No, I finished it," I told him; and then I went on to describe how everyone in the world should have a chance to play this, and how I wanted the next guy to have a chance, and how I didn't think I'd ever play through it again.

Boy, was I a fucking moron or what?

A year later I placed my very first eBay transaction. It was for Panzer Dragoon Saga, and it was for $189, a game that I paid $55 for a year earlier.

I play through it about once every two years, and I still love it. Is it worth the price? At $300 it's a steal!


I still don't get it. There is garbage like Motocross Championship and Cosmic Carnage that go for virtually nothing. WSB was one of Sega's "money" games, in their mind, so they surely manufactured enough copies to go around. You'd think the price would be more reasonable, compared to other games in the library. It goes for more money than RBI Baseball 95, which must have had a smaller production number and lower sales. It doesn't make any sense.

Actually, WSB was released at the end of the 32X's life cycle, and in very limited numbers. That's why it doesn't pop up.

[cyberfluxor]

Is Panzer REALLY that good? I've thought about picking it up over the years for my Saturn collection.

Get the first and second ones, they're pretty awesome. If you want to go with the whole deal after that then pick up Sagas. I am quite satisfied with the first 2 and have been told before the 3rd isn't anything to go nuts about unless you're either:
A) Hardcore Saturn collector (and you won't play it anyways).
B) Insane about the series and can't get enough of the others.

[JJNova]

Don't you hate it when people makes topic titles that require you to view the thread to know what it's about, instead of choosing a title that would describe the contents and allow the you the courtesy of not reading something you have absolutely no interest in?

[bangtango]

Actually, WSB was released at the end of the 32X's life cycle, and in very limited numbers. That's why it doesn't pop up.

Too bad they weren't more liberal in the production of that game like they were with the other Deion Sanders game. To this day, you can find 4-5 lots to a time on Ebay, which usually have 10-15 sealed copies of Prime Time Football for Genesis. That game is more common, and worthless, than a Billy Ripken baseball card.

As for WSB on 32X, I'd loved to have played it seeing that I had numerous seasons in the Genesis versions of WSB.

[PallarAndersVisa]

right now the 2 most expensive single video games on ebay are a sealed copy of Zelda 1 and a cart only version of Secret of Mana 2!

[Iron Draggon]

what I hate the most is when the ultra elusive ultra expensive ultra rare games finally show up on ebay and I don't have enough money to buy them!

[Arcade Antics]

Don't you hate it when you're collecting for one system in particular and the big expensive and elusive rare games for the system are really not special at all?

Nope. If I find it, great. If I don't, no reason to lose any sleep over it.

[Zadoc]

Get the first and second ones, they're pretty awesome. If you want to go with the whole deal after that then pick up Sagas. I am quite satisfied with the first 2 and have been told before the 3rd isn't anything to go nuts about unless you're either:
A) Hardcore Saturn collector (and you won't play it anyways).
B) Insane about the series and can't get enough of the others.

That is so far off base it's not even funny.

Panzer Dragoon Saga is a Role Playing Game that is nothing at all like the rail shooters that are Panzer Dragoon and Panzer Dragoon II: Zwei.

Panzer Dragoon Saga is just about the greatest story ever told through the video game medium, and is an incredibly rich RPG with a fun and unique combat system.

It's worth every penny if you're a fan of amazing video games.

[50s Brawler]

Don't you hate it when you're collecting for one system in particular and the big expensive and elusive rare games for the system are really not special at all?


This seems to be my fate on an every other week basis. It does indeed royally suck, in fact that's how I got in debt some time ago, because I'd be like: "Well screw it, I'll pay it all off later." Then later came and here it is the year 2007. The Autobots and Decipticons failed to show up in 2005, 2006 was kind of lame and I've got about 2 Grand still to pay off. This is why I have to be more selective in my gamer buying habbits now. :(