The Truth About Neo Geo Collectors [Archive]

Gamereviewgod

03-04-2007, 02:03 PM

It's funny because it's so true.

I've always been surprised at how well Neo Geo carts/cds have maintained their value despite being rampantly pirated and bootlegged.

Is a Mickey Mantle reprint rookie card worth as much as an original?

Griking

03-04-2007, 02:14 PM

http://www.gamesniped.com/?p=46

Why do I have a feeling someone without a sense of humor is going to get really pissed off at this?

LOL You're probably right

Thanks for sharing that link though, the blog seems worth reading from time to time.

Sph1nx

03-04-2007, 02:16 PM

You have a point gamereview god, it's just that in terms of video game collecting, that doesn't seem to be there norm.

Nicola

03-04-2007, 02:47 PM

...i Collect Stickers!

jajaja

03-04-2007, 03:00 PM

lol, true enough, but it applies to other systems too. Stadium Events is a good example for NES :)

Nicola

03-04-2007, 03:25 PM

Well, who wants the Gold NWC collects plastic.

Virtually, every game dumped that can be reproduced, may do the same.

It's the item that counts.

Neo Rasa

03-04-2007, 04:15 PM

This is so true. :D

rcgamer

03-04-2007, 04:18 PM

This really doesn't make sense even though I guess it was supposed to be humorous. Would a person who collects records go out and purchase a cd of the record and say he has that record? No. Would a coin collector looking for rare coin buy a reprint of it and say it is the same thing? No. It is the same with gaming. I mean a person collecting dreamcast games could easily go out and buy ps2 ports of the games , but would they be dreamcast games? No.

I understand it was (I guess) supposed to be funny. But the basis for it really isn't true at all.

cyberfluxor

03-04-2007, 04:44 PM

I now feel stupid for ever considering to buy Neo Geo games. :p

CosmicMonkey

03-04-2007, 06:02 PM

Paying for the sticker, eh? People seem to forget that this is also the case with older Megadrive games. Stick Bare Knuckle in a Genesis and you get Streets of Rage. The only difference is the manual, sticker and insert (and slightly different cart shape, but you get the idea).

I only collect Japanese AES games as they're generally cheaper than US/Euro releases. Plus I much prefer the Japanese box art to the western versions.

boatofcar

03-04-2007, 06:38 PM

It's funny because it's so true.

I've always been surprised at how well Neo Geo carts/cds have maintained their value despite being rampantly pirated and bootlegged.

I've always been surprised at how well Stadium Events has maintained its value despite being rampantly reproduced as World Class Track Meet.

Fighter17

03-04-2007, 07:51 PM

We Neo-Geo fans are fucking crazy.

I have no problem blowing $1,000 on Metal Slug.

It's a good game people!

Tron 2.0

03-04-2007, 08:34 PM

AES>Collector

MVS>Budget Gamer

Hey i say it alot but that's how i feel about it.

At least for the fan there's a choice when it comes to your dollar.

Arasoi

03-04-2007, 08:35 PM

Some of the AES prices are pretty high, for sure. I just bought an AES, and was considering getting a phantom convertor to save some cash on games (though I hear those have their own issues).

Tron 2.0

03-04-2007, 08:45 PM

Some of the AES prices are pretty high, for sure. I just bought an AES, and was considering getting a phantom convertor to save some cash on games (though I hear those have their own issues).

Phantom 1 is useless for SNKP release since there encrypted.

Not to mention on some games will play great... while others are glitch ridden.

Then there's the, Super MVS Converter II plays SNKP titles np... but depending on what "model your AES is how well MVS games will play 'on it.

To me the best way to play mvs home is this.

Have MVS board consolized.
Run MVS board through a supergun.
Buy a cab itself 2 slot or 4 slot at least.

Arasoi

03-04-2007, 08:54 PM

Good to know, thanks for the info.

I'll avoid the Phantom, and make sure I have the right kind of AES before trying the Super MVS Converter II.

Tron 2.0

03-05-2007, 12:49 AM

Good to know, thanks for the info.

I'll avoid the Phantom, and make sure I have the right kind of AES before trying the Super MVS Converter II.

There's a bunch here http://www.neostore.com/detail.asp?ProductID=1178

Iron Draggon

03-05-2007, 05:31 AM

if I ever become rich, I'd love to collect NeoGeo games... I always wanted to

kaedesdisciple

03-05-2007, 07:58 AM

AES>Collector

MVS>Budget Gamer

Hey i say it alot but that's how i feel about it.

At least for the fan there's a choice when it comes to your dollar.

QFT. Whomever wrote that article doesn't understand how a collector's market works. Personally, I've gone the MVS route. I did that because I've gotten all the games that I want to get plus the system for less than the asking price of an AES MS1. I have no problem with the AES collectors, it's their money and they're in a completely different market anyway.

Whether you collect stickers or pieces of plastic and metal connected together to perform some computer entertainment function on a television, it will all be just as dead as we will be one day.

Ed Oscuro

03-05-2007, 03:28 PM

...i Collect Stickers!
On Namco's clamshell games...yes, that's true here....

But me? I...yes, I did buy the Japanese versions just for the different artwork (don't mind the dog tag, but the design is awful). On the average it cost less, except for the two cardboard box games I bought (Sengoku and NAM-1975 are a bit expensive when bought that way)

I would agree that there's a certain futility to it, but hey, what else are you gonna use your money on? :)

Arasoi

03-05-2007, 04:29 PM

Well I did some reading over at the NG forums, and the Super MVS Converter II, supposedly the best overall MVS-AES convertor seems to be riddled with problems. From sound static to graphical glitching on games that scale (during scaling).

If anyone is considering getting one of these bone up on your reading on the subject, it definitely has its ins and outs. Seems a high price in both the monteary and compatibility sense just to play the SNKP/encrypted carts, as the Phantom apparently does a better job overall with MVS in general.

In retrospect, it would have been better to get a converted MVS, but I think I will enjoy my AES fine all the same.

Ed Oscuro

03-05-2007, 09:33 PM

How does that one stack up to the Phantom (2)? I heard that was the best...a few years ago.

Arasoi

03-05-2007, 09:36 PM

From what I understand, the Super MVS II is the only one that plays encrypted SNKP games. (experts, correct me if Im wrong)

On the other hand, all the others seem to have no apparent issues with scaling (such as line changing in the Fatal Fury games, zoom ins and outs on Samsho etc)

Go figure.. I actually got my AES in the mail today and couldn't be happier, played Samurai Spirits 3 for 3 hours. What a kick in the ass, shoulda gotten one of these years ago.

Tron 2.0

03-05-2007, 10:04 PM

QFT. Whomever wrote that article doesn't understand how a collector's market works. Personally, I've gone the MVS route. I did that because I've gotten all the games that I want to get plus the system for less than the asking price of an AES MS1. I have no problem with the AES collectors, it's their money and they're in a completely different market anyway.

Whether you collect stickers or pieces of plastic and metal connected together to perform some computer entertainment function on a television, it will all be just as dead as we will be one day.
By the looks the article i guess so unless the person is joking about it.

I also had a aes plus a phantom 1 for starters.

Afther a while i found myself buying games for the, AES was too rich for my blood not to mention the "phantom 1 being a peace of trash" for a converter.

So when i look what options there are to play mvs at home.

It seem to me a consolized mvs was the best for me beside saving space.

I've been able to aford what games i want without spending a fortune.

Frankly i'm glad back in "05 i sold the AES and switch to a CMVS 2 slot insted.

Ed Oscuro

03-05-2007, 10:16 PM

I imagine, a consolized MVS sounds pretty good. I'd rather have a JAMMA supergun myself, but I'm not into all the Neo stuff.

Also, it's worth mentioning that MVS full kit collecting can get really insane.

XianXi

03-07-2007, 03:08 PM

Neo Geo games hold their value mostly due to the fact that there is no difference between the arcade and home game as they are the same so any reproduction will never be as good as the original game on either MVS or AES as they both use the same chips but just have different cart pinouts and different sized edges. Not to mention that when a Neo game has a limited print it is a lot less copies than any limited print of any other system. Kizuna Encounter last sold for 11Gs, and there are only 4 known copies if I remember correctly.

Even though AES is targeted towards collectors, MVS as well has some high price tags BUT remember that the MVS has games that were never released on the AES home system so collecting for MVS seems more fulfilling money wise and collection wise having games others dont on MVS unless it is a conversion to AES.

Poofta!

03-07-2007, 07:58 PM

roflmao i wasnt expecting that, i burst out when i read it.

ShenmueFan

03-10-2007, 01:58 AM

:) I could never afford to be a true NeoGeo fan.

At point I owned a US Neo Geo CD system and a US version of Metal Slug 2 but there's no way I could afford (or in my right mind) pay $500+ for a single Neo Geo game...even if it WAS Metal Slug.

SNK truly made a platform for the super rich, super elite!

Congrats if you can afford to collect 'em!

Neo-Jorge

03-10-2007, 03:16 AM

I've always have said the neo-geo is the Ferrari of video game consoles. There is a certain kind of joy to be had as a neo home cart collector that once u start it's hard to stop. It especially looks nice well displayed. The true fun comes down to playing ss on a huge screen with other people that share the same appreciation for the neo as u do.

Darren870

03-10-2007, 12:15 PM

I wouldnt say all mvs collectors are budget gamers.

I collect MVS and usually only collect complete kits, I have a candy cab so I rather play on that then my aes.

Mad Gear

03-10-2007, 12:28 PM

I would agree that there's a certain futility to it, but hey, what else are you gonna use your money on? :)

Hooker's, Classy one's.

TurboGenesis

03-10-2007, 05:36 PM

I've always have said the neo-geo is the Ferrari of video game consoles.

SNK felt the same way too.

http://myspace-820.vo.llnwd.net/01264/02/87/1264777820_l.jpg

Tron 2.0

03-11-2007, 01:32 AM

I wouldnt say all mvs collectors are budget gamers.

I collect MVS and usually only collect complete kits, I have a candy cab so I rather play on that then my aes.

To a degree yes some want kits... other want it cheap and stick to loose carts.

Me a little of both, if i can get it for a good price in kit form i'll take it.

Other times "i'll stick with a loose cart" if i find the asking price for the kit is too much.

Still if any body is on a budget and i'm ask what's a cheap way to play the, NeoGeo i'll tell the person go the MVS route.

Flack

03-11-2007, 10:27 AM

MrSmiley381

03-11-2007, 04:36 PM

I collected AES games until I realized I could never really afford them. That is why I only ever had FF Special, KOF98, and Samurai Shodown II, Japanese versions.

Still can't sell KOF98. Damn.

Tron 2.0

03-12-2007, 05:16 AM

Maybe MVS are the budget collectors. I never thought of arcade cabinets as being particularly cheap, but I could buy 3-5 fullsize Neo Geo cabinets for the $1,000 that Metal Slug cart cost.

Hell, for $1,000 I could buy an MVS cabinet, Metal Slug, and a cheap truck to transport it home in.
For that much you probably could for a cab and a pile of carts.

6-slot MVS cab go's for the most while a 1-slot,2-slot and 4-slot are the cheaper ones.