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Anthony1

03-10-2007, 07:57 PM

Anybody seen the Ratchet and Clank screenshots in the April EGM? I just got my issue today, and I must say, if those pics are real......those can't be real....can they?

http://games.blog.nl/resource/pics/download/clank4.JPG

http://games.blog.nl/resource/pics/download/clank1.JPG

http://games.blog.nl/resource/pics/download/clank2.JPG

http://games.blog.nl/resource/pics/download/clank3.JPG

jajaja

03-10-2007, 08:07 PM

I saw some screenshots online where it shows a skeleton robot and a robot with 1 tooth + some enviorment stuff. Are those the same? If so, ye, the look great! :)

RPG_Fanatic

03-10-2007, 08:23 PM

Anybody seen the Ratchet and Clank screenshots in the April EGM? I just got my issue today, and I must say, if those pics are real......those can't be real....can they?

I didn't get my issue yet (your lucky because i still have to read the March issue when i take a shit :moon:) hope it comes Monday so i can see what your talking about.:above me:

Anthony1

03-10-2007, 08:41 PM

Garry Silljo

03-10-2007, 09:28 PM

updated first post and added scans from the mag from some German website. Sorry the quality is ass, that's all I could find while searching Google images. I've seen better scans floating around out there, but I can't find them anymore.

All I know, is after looking at those pictures, if that is real, if that is actual gameplay, then bye bye 360, lol.

Bye Bye 360? Why do you try and claim to not be a total graphics whore and then speculate one game will kill an entire other platform purely on its graphics? The pics look good, but this game wont sell me a PS3 any more so than the earlier ones did a PS2, which is not at all.

roushimsx

03-10-2007, 09:37 PM

Oh my, that does look nice. I wonder how it'll play... on one hand, I'd love to see something in the style of Up Your Arsenal, which is one of my favorite third person shooters ever...on the other, I'd love to see something in the style of Going Commando, with less emphasis on the third person shooting and more on really well designed, larger levels.

Anthony1

03-10-2007, 09:46 PM

Bye Bye 360? Why do you try and claim to not be a total graphics whore and then speculate one game will kill an entire other platform purely on its graphics? The pics look good, but this game wont sell me a PS3 any more so than the earlier ones did a PS2, which is not at all.

The Bye Bye 360 comment was a joke, ok. Don't you remember my "360 will Win" post? I still feel that the 360 is going to absolutely dominate this generation (at least early on, much like the Genesis dominated 16-bit gaming early on), but goodness gracious, those Ratchet screens look impressive. The PS3 really needs some games that look like they might not have been able to run on a Xbox 360. These pics, if real, appear to validate the PS3 as the No.1 graphical powerhouse of the 3 competitors. Nothing more, nothing less.

Leo_A

03-10-2007, 09:49 PM

I'll wait and see how good the game is, though the graphics do look good. But unlike you, I don't play games and watch movies just to see pretty graphics. It also needs to be fun.

Anthony1

03-10-2007, 09:53 PM

But unlike you, I don't play games and watch movies just to see pretty graphics. It also needs to be fun.

Fun? What the heck is that?

gepeto

03-10-2007, 09:57 PM

I need a little help here. Ratchet always had great graphics but what makes these pictures so great from any other game preview snapshot?

Paging killzone and that was cough video.

Anthony1

03-10-2007, 10:06 PM

I need a little help here. Ratchet always had great graphics but what makes these pictures so great from any other game preview snapshot?

Paging killzone and that was cough video.

Uhh, I did say....

if those pics are real......those can't be real....can they?

davidbrit2

03-10-2007, 10:19 PM

It's a game for a Sony platform. Of course they aren't real.

roushimsx

03-10-2007, 10:27 PM

Paging killzone and that was cough video.

Pretty much everyone attached to the Killzone video said straight up that it was prerendered. The only people saying otherwise were Sony's PR Hype Monkeys and Internet Fanboys.

And driving this further into Killzone-land, I hope to god Killzone 2 isn't as buggy as Killzone. I loved the game, but god damn was it buggy (and choppy :( ).

chicnstu

03-10-2007, 11:46 PM

Ratchet was my favorite series last generation (tied with Kingdom Hearts). I've probably got 200 hours on both Going Commando and Up Your Arsenal.

Hopefully Insomniac can still make funny cutscenes. Their new commercials aren't as good as the old ones. And hopefully they will still have the option for the third person controls. I tried playing through Up Your Arsenal and Deadlocked with the lock-strafe but it wasn't as fun for me. I can see how it would be better to use lock-strafe in online though.

Looks like we'll get to fight many more enemies a lot bigger than Ratchet this time. It also looks like Ratchet still has his goofy walk :)

Any more information? Like new weapons, if it has more platforming, better wrench combat, etc.

Nintendo Gamer

03-11-2007, 01:21 AM

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Vinnysdad

03-11-2007, 03:24 AM

Sony hate is killing me. :deadhorse:

No kidding. Anytime anyone says anything remotely positive about Sony here comes the haters to crap on it. Those screens look nice though. Gameplay should be just as good since all Ratchet games so far have been.

GarrettCRW

03-11-2007, 03:30 AM

No kidding. Anytime anyone says anything remotely positive about Sony here comes the haters to crap on it. Those screens look nice though. Gameplay should be just as good since all Ratchet games so far have been.

And best of all, Insomniac hasn't tossed the series off to amateurs like they did with Spyro.

gepeto

03-11-2007, 08:20 AM

Hep038

03-11-2007, 12:04 PM

Well having a ps3 with hardly any great games is killing me.
I don't think there is alot of hate. I think it is a combo of little hate and alot of massive dissapointment. I love sony and I have a system but I think people don't want talk or hype we want games. I don't want annoitments I want hot next gen games. People spent 600 plus dollars.
I had it since it came out and other than resistance the only game for me since it was released was formula 1 which I love. Don't blame us blame sony.
I did my part. E3 2005 is over get the games out so we can play.

Maybe not you, but there are people on this board that see a pro PS3 thread and jump right in and crap on it. Check every Sony thread out there that starts out postive. The same people come in and either talk about how the wii is better or just bash sony altogether. I just wonder if they hate the system so much, why do they bothter posting? You do not see this happen in the pro wii threads. I like seeing other people's opinion, but with sony threads it is quite ridiculous.

agbulls

03-11-2007, 12:44 PM

I think questioning the potential quality of a new Ratchet game seems really odd. The previous four games have all been of stellar quality, with Going Commando winning multiple GOTY awards. Why should the new one not live up to these standards? Do people question the potential quality of a new Zelda, Mario or Halo game? This is clearly just more anti-Sony people jumping on the bandwagon.

I think a LOT of people want to see the system fail because they can't afford it. If you can't afford a PS3 and the games on it are shitty--that's good for you as it further justifies you not having it. But if the system gets stellar titles (and it will) those who can't afford it will get jealous of those that have one. At this point, Resistance, Motostorm and Virtua Fighter don't conjure up this type of ownership jealousy.

If Ratchet launches this year, I would expect it to be HUGE for the system. System seller? Maybe, maybe not as its too early to say. But I can say that those of you that don't own a PS3 will be seeing more and more of these types of games in the next 4 months being announced. And, eventually, the anti-PS3/can't afford it bandwagon/the games on it suck/ talk will have to end.

esquire

03-11-2007, 03:26 PM

Maybe not you, but there are people on this board that see a pro PS3 thread and jump right in and crap on it. Check every Sony thread out there that starts out postive. The same people come in and either talk about how the wii is better or just bash sony altogether. I just wonder if they hate the system so much, why do they bothter posting? You do not see this happen in the pro wii threads. I like seeing other people's opinion, but with sony threads it is quite ridiculous.

...and to make it even more ridiculous is that 99% of those people don't even own a PS3.

The PS3 will slowly gain ground with releases like this and other exclusives.

Griking

03-11-2007, 05:12 PM

...and to make it even more ridiculous is that 99% of those people don't even own a PS3.

The PS3 will slowly gain ground with releases like this and other exclusives.

Well of course they don't own one. Why would we buy something that we don't like? Just because critics haven't purchased a PS3 doesn't mean they haven't had the opportunity to play with one for a while and develop an honest opinion. That being said, this game looks very nice.

cyberfluxor

03-11-2007, 10:51 PM

agbulls:
What I've seen thus far in "next gen" consoles doesn't really push me to buy one. I mainly chat in the classic forum because there's so many great games to talk about while in modern it's generally what's about to come out and the hype. There are a few good Xbox360 games because it's already been out for awhile, the Wii and PS3 are falling short of expectation for launch. I wasn't impressed with the racing game Walmart was showing off for the PS3 but that's all I've really touched, others I've met however say nothing thus far is special and are waiting for these great titles to be released. As for the Wii, really the only thing I like on there right now is Rayman.

Time will tell what system has the best selection, but overall each will have their special gems.

Anthony1

03-12-2007, 12:16 AM

I think a LOT of people want to see the system fail because they can't afford it. If you can't afford a PS3 and the games on it are shitty--that's good for you as it further justifies you not having it. But if the system gets stellar titles (and it will) those who can't afford it will get jealous of those that have one. At this point, Resistance, Motostorm and Virtua Fighter don't conjure up this type of ownership jealousy.

If Ratchet launches this year, I would expect it to be HUGE for the system. System seller? Maybe, maybe not as its too early to say. But I can say that those of you that don't own a PS3 will be seeing more and more of these types of games in the next 4 months being announced. And, eventually, the anti-PS3/can't afford it bandwagon/the games on it suck/ talk will have to end.

I think there is quite a bit of truth in your takes. For some of us, we are going to own each of the three systems, so we don't even have to worry about all the drama. We own all three, and we can walk into GameStop and look at all the games on all the walls. We don't have to focus in on one particular section, while completely shunning another. Of course, many of us are older, and have more disposable income to be able to actually have all 3 of these puppies. Alot of gamers aren't as fortunate, and they have to make hard decisions. When these consoles start costing $300 plus, (even the Wii, when you add extra Wii-motes and such), it's not as easy of a situation for alot of gamers. They have to jump on a particular bandwagon and hope they made the right call. It's human nature. If you can't have a particular console, for whatever reason, in the back of your mind you kinda hope that you aren't missing out on much. Some will hope that it will fail miserably, so they can feel comforted in knowing that they made the right call.

Gamers that have decided to pass on the PS3 this time around, have so far been enjoying their decision, because so far it's been one unmitigated dissaster after another for Sony and the PS3. But the haters, in the back of their minds.... they know that it's only a matter of time before a particular game is unveiled that totally destroys their comfort level in shunning the PS3. Is that game Ratchet and Clank for PS3? Maybe. It's hard to say. Sure, the game looks fucking amazing. If these screens are to be believed, then man..., this game is a big problem for both Nintendo and Microsoft. We know that this game would be impossilbe on Wii, and I'm not entirely sure it would be possible in a non-watered down form on the 360. But on the other side of the coin is the fact that ultimately this is a 3D platformer that we are talking about. I personally love 3D platformers, but in the grand scheme of things platformers just don't mean as much as they used to. Especially with the 360 and PS3 crowd. With Nintendo, it's a bit different because anything Mario is deified. super Paper Mario and Mario Galaxy are going to be huge, monsterous releases for the Wii, because they are Mario. Not so much because they are in the platforming genre. Ratchet and Clank looks like a killer app. But it isn't a First Person Shooter like Halo. It isn't a 3rd person Action/Adventure like God of War. It's a cutsey 3D platformer. Some gamers will avoid this game no matter how amazing it might look.

Time will tell, but one thing is for sure, there are some exciting times ahead. This console war is just going to get more and more interesting as each Month passes by. It's sure nice to own the Holy Trinity (Wii, 360 & PS3) and just be able to enjoy the whole enchilada without all the drama on the side! :)

Lothars

03-12-2007, 12:46 AM

Time will tell, but one thing is for sure, there are some exciting times ahead. This console war is just going to get more and more interesting as each Month passes by. It's sure nice to own the Holy Trinity (Wii, 360 & PS3) and just be able to enjoy the whole enchilada without all the drama on the side! :)

I agree fully, it's gonna be really interesting in what happens in this generation, I fully plan to own all 3 systems this generation as well, but it's just gonna be exciting to see what happens.

smork

03-12-2007, 04:10 AM

For the record, I will absoutely buy a PS3 for a new Ratchet & Clank, if it is anything like GC or UYA. Those were fantastic (and beautiful) games, can't imagine how great a new installment could be!

agbulls

03-16-2007, 03:41 PM

Woohoo! The official Ratchet & Clank Future trailer is up folks :guitar:

www.gamevideos.com

Drexel923

03-16-2007, 08:22 PM

Woohoo! The official Ratchet & Clank Future trailer is up folks :guitar:

www.gamevideos.com

Looks like I'll be getting a PS3 this fall. I love Ratchet and Clank and the video just cemented my purchase. Hopefully there will be a nice deal on the system by then cause I still don't want to spend $600.

Garry Shandling

04-01-2007, 07:53 AM

Gary Shandling

Garry Shandling

04-01-2007, 08:02 AM

Uhh, I did say....

Gary Shandling

Garry Shandling

04-01-2007, 08:08 AM

I Some gamers will avoid this game no matter how amazing it might look.

Gary Shandling

BHvrd

04-01-2007, 10:21 AM

Hey Gary Sahdling go fuck yourself! You can't handle Motorstorm you whiney bitch!

Sorry if this is misdirected hostility, but i'm feeling froggy and your face looks like a pinata.

Garry Shandling

04-01-2007, 10:39 AM

Gary Shandling

ShenmueFan

04-01-2007, 11:16 AM

Ratchet & Clank? Does the world need ANOTHER sequel in that franchise? Has Sony gone from releasing them every year to bi-monthly now or something?

PS3 needs a Gary Shandling game.

Lil_John

04-01-2007, 11:47 AM

What!?

Garry Shandling

04-01-2007, 11:58 AM

Gary Shandling

Gary Shandling

Humongous Forum Troll

04-01-2007, 12:00 PM

Oh my Giznod

Stop making up words, you child.

Humongous Forum Troll

04-01-2007, 12:00 PM

What!?

I wasn't talking to you, you derelict.

agbulls

04-09-2007, 10:12 PM

Some absolutely GORGEOUS screens just were posted today.

http://www.playsyde.com/news_4191_en.html

Who doesn't want a PS3 now?

gepeto

10-24-2007, 10:55 AM

Wow gamespot review gave it a 7.5

Ign gave it a 9.4

MegaDrive20XX

10-24-2007, 11:34 AM

What!?

YEAH! RATCHET & CRUNK!

s1lence

10-24-2007, 11:57 AM

Lol Gary Shandling.

This may end up being my 3rd PS3 title.

PapaStu

10-24-2007, 01:44 PM

Kitsune Sniper

10-24-2007, 02:06 PM

Aannnnnnnnd as much as I love R&C this is never a good thing to ship a game with a flaw that forces to delete stuff on your HD to get it to work...

http://kotaku.com/gaming/bugs/ratchet-and-clank-future-dont-lets-start-314418.php

Yeah, it was probably something they didn't expect. I think future versions will have this bug corrected, so it's not that much of an issue. Maybe a firmware hotfix?

Trebuken

10-24-2007, 03:32 PM

Thanks for the news on the bug. Just picked up the game at Gamestop and will be playing it some this evening.

I did notice from the demo that it was too easy as well. That's what the gamespot review claims. It deserves a 9 just for looking good...

Rob2600

10-24-2007, 05:32 PM

I wonder what score Ratchet and Clank will receive on the Crate Review System (http://www.oldmanmurray.com/features/40.html). Screen shots:

crate screen shot 1 (http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/819/819456/img_4998279.html)

crate screen shot 2 (http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/819/819456/img_4802730.html)

Wolfrider31

10-24-2007, 06:37 PM

That was AWESOME.

jajaja

10-24-2007, 07:08 PM

Aannnnnnnnd as much as I love R&C this is never a good thing to ship a game with a flaw that forces to delete stuff on your HD to get it to work...

http://kotaku.com/gaming/bugs/ratchet-and-clank-future-dont-lets-start-314418.php

According to Insomiac only a small precentage will experience it, just to clearify that not everyone will experience the problem. There are bugs in basicly every game. Its not like they intentional shipped it with the bug :P

Garry Silljo

10-24-2007, 07:34 PM

Some absolutely GORGEOUS screens just were posted today.

http://www.playsyde.com/news_4191_en.html

Who doesn't want a PS3 now?

I don't.

importaku

10-24-2007, 07:46 PM

Why do none of those screenshots have any screen display stuff like energy bars or lives ect....

Do R&C games have no HUD on screen as those pics just look like fmv to me.

Garry Silljo

10-24-2007, 07:48 PM

It deserves a 9 just for looking good...

So by your standards, a painting in a museum deserves a 9 from a game reviewer, even though it isnt even a game? I mean, so what if you can't even play it, "it deserves a 9 just for looking good..."

I think I'm going to start a company that releases discs that are just slide shows of shots of great graphics. I'm not trying to make any money. I just want 9's from Trebuken.

PapaStu

10-24-2007, 07:52 PM

According to Insomiac only a small precentage will experience it, just to clearify that not everyone will experience the problem. There are bugs in basicly every game. Its not like they intentional shipped it with the bug :P

Oh I know that there are bugs in most every game, and that some are mighty dehibilitating. Hell I played alot of Halo 2 online when that came out... let me tell you about them bugs...

But thats besides the point. This bug is bad enough to not let you play the game at all and I can guarantee you that most people arn't going to figure out a way past it, especially if they don't have much of anything on their HD's but their game saves. It's only compounded by the fact that they arn't saying that magical range of how much data on your HD thats being used to glitch this out. That tells me that its a very big range. Really now, are there that many download games on the PSN? That many PS3 demos in the store to spike your 20 or even 60/80 gig to really fill that HD?

Rob2600

10-24-2007, 07:57 PM

those pics just look like fmv to me.

With today's level of graphics, do games even use FMV anymore? If so, why?

Real-time cut scenes should have completely supplanted FMV starting with the Nintendo 64 and the Dreamcast.

jajaja

10-24-2007, 07:59 PM

Why do none of those screenshots have any screen display stuff like energy bars or lives ect....

Do R&C games have no HUD on screen as those pics just look like fmv to me.

The game does have a HUD, but it only shows up when you pick up stuff and get hit etc. You can see it in a gameplay movie here:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26888.html

importaku

10-24-2007, 08:03 PM

Ahaa then that changes things then, i always get suspicious when i see supposed screenshots and theres no on screen stuff.

jajaja

10-24-2007, 08:06 PM

With today's level of graphics, do games even use FMV anymore? If so, why?

Real-time cut scenes should have completely supplanted FMV starting with the Nintendo 64 and the Dreamcast.

Some games still uses FMV. If i dont completely remember wrong, Medal of Honor Airborne was the last game that i've played that had FMV (atleast i think it had it). I like FMV since its so much more detailed than in-engine videos. In-engine videos is only comming better and better tho, but its still a way to go to match true FMV quality :)

Trebuken

10-24-2007, 10:29 PM

So by your standards, a painting in a museum deserves a 9 from a game reviewer, even though it isnt even a game? I mean, so what if you can't even play it, "it deserves a 9 just for looking good..."

I think I'm going to start a company that releases discs that are just slide shows of shots of great graphics. I'm not trying to make any money. I just want 9's from Trebuken.

Seems you took me a little too seriously. I appreciate my statement was a little silly, but your '..can't even play it...' is ridiculous given the taht i have been playing it without any hint of an issue for a couple of hours now and the ridiculous ease with which the 'glitch' if it can be called such, can be eliminated.

My statement generally derives from there finally being something play worthy on the PS3 (though I did enjoy Heavenly Sword just because it looked good too...).

Please make your reponses constructive rather than argumentative, I am resonable in regards to my own flippant remarks.

Anthony1

10-25-2007, 12:01 AM

The one major problem with alot of current era 3D platformers is that they are too easy. Remember when you got Super Mario World for the SNES, and literally played it for months and months? It wasn't like Super Mario World was super hard, but it had such intricate play mechanics, that it kept you playing forever. These modern 3D platformers, seem like just go thru the worlds, get to the boss, repeat, repeat. They don't seem to have that intricacy. I think it has to do with moving things to 3D. You can't have the level of pinpoint control when things are in 3D.

I'm still going to get this puppy anyways.

jajaja

10-25-2007, 02:54 AM

Oh I know that there are bugs in most every game, and that some are mighty dehibilitating. Hell I played alot of Halo 2 online when that came out... let me tell you about them bugs...

But thats besides the point. This bug is bad enough to not let you play the game at all and I can guarantee you that most people arn't going to figure out a way past it, especially if they don't have much of anything on their HD's but their game saves. It's only compounded by the fact that they arn't saying that magical range of how much data on your HD thats being used to glitch this out. That tells me that its a very big range. Really now, are there that many download games on the PSN? That many PS3 demos in the store to spike your 20 or even 60/80 gig to really fill that HD?

The question is if the bug will appear if you have hardly anything or nothing on your PS3 HDD :) There is no denying that a bug that might prevent you from starting the game is pretty nasty, but in this case the fix is easy. True as you say, some people wont figure out how to get past it since the solution isnt exactly logical, but if they dont get the game to work they will (atleast i hope for their sake hehe :p) return it to the store. Hopefully the store employees are aware of it and will explain it. If not, i guess its -1 sale of Insomniac, atleast for that time.

The game is just out so it might be too early to tell how big of precentage that has/will experienced this bug, but i dont think it will that big of a prencetage. Since the solution is easy i wouldnt say its a negative thing in that way (im not saying that you're saying its a negative thing, i'm talking in general).

boatofcar

10-25-2007, 03:33 AM

Oobgarm

10-25-2007, 07:22 AM

Can someone take 'Giznod' out of the topic title? Everytime I see it I want to puch the computer screen for displaying such a retarded word.

Ikari Warrior

10-25-2007, 08:57 AM

With today's level of graphics, do games even use FMV anymore? If so, why?

Many games today use FMV of scenes made using the in-game engine converted to video. Gears of War does this, and the demo of Ratchet does it as well. It allows you to have cutscenes and not have to load the game engine to play them. Sometimes (like Gears) they are really noticeable if the are encoded in a low resolution

VGfan

10-25-2007, 09:41 AM

heybtbm

10-25-2007, 10:03 AM

Can someone take 'Giznod' out of the topic title? Everytime I see it I want to puch the computer screen for displaying such a retarded word.

I'll second that.

MarkMan

10-25-2007, 10:11 AM

uhhhh...

Troll much?

jajaja

10-25-2007, 03:29 PM

Looks like an Xbox game to me.

If you're serious about this then you havnt seen much, or anything other than the pics in the first post that you quoted from Ratchet & Clank for PS3. Those pics in the first post that you quotet are months old, small in size so they dont justify or show how good the final version of the game really looks. Go to www.gametrailers.com and check out some videos. If you can find a Xbox games that look good you must let me know :P

studvicious

10-25-2007, 03:30 PM

Many games today use FMV of scenes made using the in-game engine converted to video. Gears of War does this, and the demo of Ratchet does it as well. It allows you to have cutscenes and not have to load the game engine to play them. Sometimes (like Gears) they are really noticeable if the are encoded in a low resolution

Resident Evil 4 did that as well.

Rob2600

10-25-2007, 03:42 PM

Resident Evil 4 did that as well.

In the GameCube version of Resident Evil 4, all of the cut scenes were real-time. Later, in the PlayStation 2 and computer versions, the real-time cut scenes were converted to FMV. Finally, in the Wii version, the cut scenes are rendered in real time again.

According to IGN.com:

"The Wii iteration is based on the initial graphics from the GCN build, not the PS2 one. That means that cut-scenes use the real-time game engine and that the added lighting and water transparency effects from the GameCube version are in the Wii port. In addition, the Wii incarnation boasts the true 16:9 widescreen mode of the PS2 title, which means that it's really a combination - the best of both worlds."

FMV has disadvantages. According to Wikipedia's Resident Evil 4 entry:

"Almost all of the GameCube's real-time cut scenes were converted to FMV on the PS2. The characters will appear wearing their default costumes, regardless of which accessories or outfits were actually chosen."

That would ruin the game for me.

Anyway, a game like Resident Evil 4's graphics are so good that FMV is pointless...so why do some developers still use it?

VGfan

10-25-2007, 04:32 PM

If you're serious about this then you havnt seen much, or anything other than the pics in the first post that you quoted from Ratchet & Clank for PS3. Those pics in the first post that you quotet are months old, small in size so they dont justify or show how good the final version of the game really looks. Go to www.gametrailers.com and check out some videos. If you can find a Xbox games that look good you must let me know :P

I was only commenting on the pictures that the topic creater praised.

Anthony1

10-25-2007, 09:12 PM

Looks like an Xbox game to me.

Give me a freaking break. Look, I loved the Xbox 1 just as much as the next guy, but no way in hell the Xbox 1 could achieve anything like that. Also, those scans from a magazine, certainly don't give an accurate depiction of what I was really seeing. I linked to some crappy images, the only ones I could find, the original ones got taken down. But believe me, when I first got that issue of EGM, and saw those pics of Ratchet and Clank, I was totally amazed. I honestly didn't think they would be able to tap the power the PS3 this quick.

Now in hindsight, the reality might not be quite as amazing as seeing those first few screenshots in EGM, but the game still looks absolutely gorgeous. There is a bit of tearing and other minor graphical issues, but for the most part, playing Ratchet is like playing the equivalent of 75 percent of the quality of a pixar movie. That's freaking saying something.

gepeto

10-25-2007, 09:47 PM

Oh my Giznod jumpin Gizzarooni!!! Wait a minute the xbox produced ninja gaiden black!!!! A game that can still can hold its own with the next gen releases:) ha ha ha.

Rob2600

10-25-2007, 11:48 PM

Wait a minute the xbox produced ninja gaiden black!!!! A game that can still can hold its own with the next gen releases

Yes, several GameCube and Xbox games still look great compared to the current generation of games.

I just watched some Ratchet and Clank videos on GameTrailers.com and the game looks good. Some of the levels look a bit generic and bland in their design/art direction (what's with all the crates?), but other levels look impressive. It's a mixed bag creativity-wise, but overall the game has high production values and seems quite polished.

I also just watched some Super Mario Galaxy videos on GameTrailers.com and it looks good, too. Like Ratchet and Clank, it has high production values and seems polished, but for me, the creativity, originality, and art direction in Super Mario Galaxy is much more enticing and exciting.

ProgrammingAce

10-26-2007, 12:18 AM

ZiLL

10-26-2007, 01:18 PM

The bug that keeps you from playing says more about how desperate sony is then they'd like to admit.

Playing around with hard drive space is one of the test they run for certification. Obviously this game was rubber stamped through Cert in order to get *something* on the shelves for Christmas.

As much as i like Sony, they seem to be running scared right now...

Ninja Gaiden Black can't hold a candle to this game, but if you want an xbox game that looks better, go find Chronicles of Riddick or Scrapland (yes, Scrapland. Look, just trust me)...

An xbox game that looks better than this? Either you welded without a visor when you were young, or you haven't played the game.

I've had my ps3 for a long while now, and I have nothing but good things to say about the console itself, but the library of games is sorely lacking. I own 40+ 360 games, and....6 ps3 games.

With that said, R&C Future is the game that kept my ps3 from being boxed up. I'm not even a huge fan of the R&C series, played the first one, liked it, but didn't play the others in the series. This game is gorgeous, and fun as hell. I've fallen off the map more times than I care to count just because I was taking everything in visually.

segagamer4life

10-26-2007, 08:04 PM

I am sorry I played both the demo and the finished product and this game is NOT in any way shape or form mind blowing... sorry, not to bash the ps3, the game looks ok, but it is in no way a masterpiece of graphic art, the game plays well and has alot going on at once, but nothing more nothing less. I don't beleive that any developer right now is taking advantage of the system and thus delivering a mind altering experience as the ps3 has over hyped and under delivered thusfar. Again, not to bash the ps3, I own one and its ok, but its NOT there Yet. and R&C, doesn't deliver a 9 yet... the gameplay is nice yes, but the graphics meh....... 8.2