View Full Version : Mexican governor orders seizure of GRAW2
7th lutz
03-23-2007, 09:43 PM
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6168009.html?action=convert&om_clk=latestnews&tag=latestnews;title;1
The governor of the Mexican state of Chihuahua has ordered that copies of Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2 be confiscated, according to a report on Spanish-language site El Diario.
Set in Juárez, Mexico, and El Paso, Texas, GRAW2 follows an elite combat unit battling Mexican rebels in the year 2014. Earlier this month, the mayor of Juárez, a city in Chihuahua on the Mexican-American border, criticized the game sharply, saying it instilled poor values and portrayed his town's people as violent.
According to the report, Chihuahua Governor José Reyes Baeza Terrazas considers the game an insult not only to the city of Juárez, but to the entire country. Currently, authorities are gathering information on where the game is being sold, reproduced, and distributed in preparation for a seizure campaign, El Diario reported.
diskoboy
03-23-2007, 10:20 PM
Yeah - just give 'em another reason to jump the fences, Mexico....
Why aren't we at war with Mexico yet?
Garry Silljo
03-23-2007, 10:54 PM
Why aren't we at war with Mexico yet?
Just make Mexico a state. That eliminates the border problem beacuse they are already in the U.S. Then we won't lose jobs and businesses to the Mexicans.... but those damn New Americans will be a problem. Hmmm, if we made Mexico a state, would New Mexico become Mexico and the old Mexico be the "new" New Mexico????? Damn, brain ... malfunction.. ing... quit.
MegaDrive20XX
03-23-2007, 11:06 PM
I knew it, I knew the day I played the demo of this, I said "Someone is gonna find this offensive" and sure as hell..bingo!
Kitsune Sniper
03-23-2007, 11:37 PM
Yeah, how about you give us back the half of our country you stole, you gringos. :P
Seriously though, this is just an idiot. Pure and simple.
I'm sorry you people managed to see what we have to deal with on a daily basis... then again a mobster is going to become my state's next governor, so...
ProgrammingAce
03-24-2007, 12:31 AM
I think it's just a new mission objective. Locate and secure stolen copies of the game.
Jimmy Yakapucci
03-24-2007, 09:45 AM
Okay, I don't know anything about this game, but why would Mexicans want to play a game in which they are fighting Mexicans? Unless, of course, you could choose which side to play and defend the homeland against the invading gringos.
JY
agbulls
03-24-2007, 10:17 AM
I've played quite a bit of GRAW 2 and don't blame them at all for being pissed. The entire game essentially has American doing to Mexico what we're currently doing to Iraq.
If you live in Mexico---wouldn't that piss you off??
Joker T
03-24-2007, 10:42 AM
Did this happen to the first GRAW?
cyberfluxor
03-24-2007, 12:18 PM
Yeah, how about you give us back the half of our country you stole, you gringos. :P
We didn't steal it, the Texas Annexation wasn't forced but Mexico got pissed and declared war on the USA. We retaliated and won. Then we purchased the rest of the land, but of course Mexico wasn't in any position to refuse.
heybtbm
03-24-2007, 01:50 PM
I've played quite a bit of GRAW 2 and don't blame them at all for being pissed. The entire game essentially has American doing to Mexico what we're currently doing to Iraq.
If you live in Mexico---wouldn't that piss you off??
Actually, the storyline in GRAW 2 is simply that a Mexican rebel group (not the government or people) has seized control of 2 nuclear warheads and plans to use them somewhere in Texas.
At frequent points in the game you fight alongside Mexican soldiers...not against them. I see no connection to Iraq (in the game you are trying to uphold the Mexican government...not topple it), or why the average Mexican would be pissed (seeing as they are portrayed as our allies in the game).
At least it's free publicity for Ubisoft. If I were more cynical, I would suspect a bit of viral marketing.
diskoboy
03-24-2007, 02:03 PM
I think it's just a new mission objective. Locate and secure stolen copies of the game.
LOL LOL
Richter Belmount
03-24-2007, 03:33 PM
Yeah, how about you give us back the half of our country you stole, you gringos. :P
IT BELONGS TO THE NATIVE AMERICANS TRIBES!
xmagxus
03-24-2007, 03:40 PM
IT BELONGS TO THE NATIVE AMERICANS TRIBES!
not anymore lol.
Kitsune Sniper
03-24-2007, 03:51 PM
We didn't steal it, the Texas Annexation wasn't forced but Mexico got pissed and declared war on the USA. We retaliated and won. Then we purchased the rest of the land, but of course Mexico wasn't in any position to refuse.
Wasn't forced? Didn't the people living in Texas (who were -renting the land-) refuse to pay rent to the Mexican Government, which was what started the war in the first place? And then the US Government intervened and stole the land from us? Right then. But enough derailing. :P
As I said, this Mexican governor is nothing but a Jack Thompson-level idiot. He has no clue whatsoever of what happens in the game, he's just pissed that his state is portrayed in such a way. Even if it's fiction. And in the future.
noname11
03-24-2007, 04:20 PM
on the land debate - im going to throw the radical proposition out there that the land belongs and belonged to no one, and the current regime in power [us , mexican, spanish, and indigenous] basically let you think you had power over terrain to tax you [in the case of the 1st three sovereigns] or to exercise social control over you [ in the case of the indians] .... i get the same feeling whenever i buy a used game on ebay and sell it back after i play through it and get all my money back on the sale... sometimes its not such a good thing to be an "owner" - no sales tax and u spread the game around ...
the seizure of the games is just plain stupid and a distraction from real politics in mexico , much like in the US . Politicians like to go after soft targets and make them look bad to in turn look good because they cant fix real problems like high medical costs, sub- living wages, social security, job security . The down side is that we as consumers get robbed of our "fair use" of software , or of our ability to choose the games that entertain us because some politician wants to look good ...
Sweater Fish Deluxe
03-24-2007, 06:24 PM
At frequent points in the game you fight alongside Mexican soldiers...not against them. I see no connection to Iraq (in the game you are trying to uphold the Mexican government...not topple it), or why the average Mexican would be pissed (seeing as they are portrayed as our allies in the game).
Erm, isn't that exactly the situation in Iraq? The supposed war with the Iraqi government ended in the Spring of 2003 and since then we've aided and supported the government and fought alongside Iraqi soldiers and so on. Hell, we even try to portray ourselves as allies of the Iraqi people. Not that they're buying that line any more than the Southeast Asian people or Central American people did before them, nor any more than the Mexican people would if we occupied Mexico based on some sort of flimsy excuse about rebels.
...word is bondage...
Mianrtcv
03-25-2007, 12:29 AM
I've played quite a bit of GRAW 2 and don't blame them at all for being pissed. The entire game essentially has American doing to Mexico what we're currently doing to Iraq.
If you live in Mexico---wouldn't that piss you off??
I'd be pissed off... Just because Ive been in Mexico. I could not stand it more than 7 days. : )
Habeeb Hamusta
03-25-2007, 10:18 AM
I'd be pissed off... Just because Ive been in Mexico. I could not stand it more than 7 days. : )
Was it not being able to drink the water or being thrown in jail for beating up a pay phone?
Did your girlfriend get raped as soon as you stepped foot in Mexico?
noname11
03-25-2007, 08:10 PM
Was it not being able to drink the water or being thrown in jail for beating up a pay phone?
Did your girlfriend get raped as soon as you stepped foot in Mexico?
was that payphone dig a reference to Born in East LA? U know that movie was Number 1 in New Zeland back in the day?
spanks_4
03-26-2007, 07:38 AM
i don't have a problem with mexicans at all. i just think those bastards should learn how to speak english! i had a wreck with a damn car load of them about 3 weeks ago and 1 of them took of running. i think we should pull out of iraq and start fighting the war here damn.
Ed Oscuro
03-26-2007, 02:32 PM
Okay, I don't know anything about this game, but why would Mexicans want to play a game in which they are fighting Mexicans?
Why would Iraqis want to play a game in which they are fighting Iraqis?
But they do; in fact they even put up with Kuma Games shit (http://www.kumawar.com/) for a chance to do it!
IT BELONGS TO THE NATIVE AMERICANS TRIBES!
don't encourage that thinking lol
sonicteam
03-26-2007, 09:55 PM
took me a year to learn english and let me tell you it's no easy task , specially when you got every one of your classmates making fun of you,and not being able to do anything about it ,i guess i'm a damn bastard for being mexican right?
i don't have a problem with mexicans at all. i just think those bastards should learn how to speak english! i had a wreck with a damn car load of them about 3 weeks ago and 1 of them took of running. i think we should pull out of iraq and start fighting the war here damn.
Poofta!
03-26-2007, 10:15 PM
Why aren't we at war with Mexico yet?
theres nothing to take.
Stark
03-26-2007, 10:33 PM
So all 4 copies that would have been purchased from a store were confiscated? Big deal. Mexico is just as bad if not worse than any Asian country in pirate software. If you live in Mexico you will easily be able to buy this game. This will boost pirate sales not stop people there from playing it.
Iron Draggon
03-29-2007, 12:15 AM
so now his town is portrayed as being censorous and intolerant... smart move!
rbudrick
03-30-2007, 05:57 PM
We could have had Mexico at one time, and could have taken it like our forefathers did to every other bit of land, but the USA didn't want it! Mexico was having one civil war after another, was full of warring tribes, and they had one revolution after another over the years. US wanted nothing to do with that, as I've heard it.
-Rob