is it safe to use a Sega CD game in an xbox?

[c0ldb33r]

I've recently re-acquired Sonic CD for $4.00 complete :D

Problem - I don't have room in my entertainment center for my genesis/sega cd/32x combo (nor do I have all the empty power plugs either!)

So, I notice the genesis emulator NeoGenesis will run sega cd games. Is it safe to use my Sonic CD in my xbox drive? Is there any chance it could damage the disc? what about the drive?

Thanks to anyone that replies :)

[pookninja]

yes,its safe.i play my sega cd games on my genesis emulator on my xbox with no problem.btw,you can play imports as well.i have a few mega cd games,and they play as well.

[drewbrim]

Whoa, I have a NeoGenesis emulator on my rom filled Xbox. Are you saying I could throw my Shining Force CD in there and it would work? What about Turbo Duo stuff? A friend is borrowing the Xbox so I can't just throw this stuff in there to try it out.

[c0ldb33r]

Whoa, I have a NeoGenesis emulator on my rom filled Xbox. Are you saying I could throw my Shining Force CD in there and it would work? What about Turbo Duo stuff? A friend is borrowing the Xbox so I can't just throw this stuff in there to try it out.
I just inserted Sonic CD and clicked play inserted CD (or whatever it says) in NeoGenesis and it worked fine. Although it'll have to be an original disc. While an xbox drive can read burned DVD-Rs, most can't read burned CD-Rs (although this depends on the brand of DVD drive your xbox uses). Mine will read DVD-R and CD-RW, but its pretty finicky about CDs. But yeah if you're using an original CD it should work fine :)

I don't know about Turbo-Duo support. I don't have any turbo games to test it with.

[drewbrim]

Wild, I'm not sure how I missed this info. I recently sold my JVC Xeye, since I barely used it but I kept most of my Sega CD games just in case I ever decided to get back into them and didn't feel like searching for the Lunar's and Shining Force's of the library. I can't wait to try it.

[agbulls]

I just inserted Sonic CD and clicked play inserted CD (or whatever it says) in NeoGenesis and it worked fine. Although it'll have to be an original disc. While an xbox drive can read burned DVD-Rs, most can't read burned CD-Rs (although this depends on the brand of DVD drive your xbox uses). Mine will read DVD-R and CD-RW, but its pretty finicky about CDs. But yeah if you're using an original CD it should work fine :)

I don't know about Turbo-Duo support. I don't have any turbo games to test it with.

I might have to get a modded XB if Turbo Duo games work. Anyone with confirmation?

[wallydawg]

I wish Dreamcast could run SegaCD

[c0ldb33r]

I might have to get a modded XB if Turbo Duo games work. Anyone with confirmation?
If it does work, a softmod will do it. No need for a hardware mod. I only softmodded mine and love it :D

[roushimsx]

I might have to get a modded XB if Turbo Duo games work. Anyone with confirmation?

Haven't played around with 'em, but people report that the Xbox port of Mednafen works peachy. Lord knows I love me some Mednafen (the Xbox version has the edge in that it actually has a GUI...and it's one that doesn't suck, if you can believe it).

Also, if you're paranoid about the safety of your SegaCD discs or your Xbox, just rip 'em to BIN/CUE and NeoGenesis will play 'em peachy. No need to put your originals in harm's way (there's about a snowball's chance in hell of my Snatcher ever coming back out of its case now that I've ripped a CCD/IMG of it that I can convert to anything else I like)

[Chadt74]

I've been toying with the idea of getting a modded xbox, now I might just have to jump in and grab one to play some of my sega CD games?!! good info Coldb33r, any other tricks I should know about?

[c0ldb33r]

I've been toying with the idea of getting a modded xbox, now I might just have to jump in and grab one to play some of my sega CD games?!! good info Coldb33r, any other tricks I should know about?
Well, I don't want to cross any lines. I'm not sure how permissive the mods of this forum are when it comes to modding talk.

But everything you need to know can be found at http://www.xbox-scene.org

But softmodding an xbox is simple. All you really need is a copy of Splinter Cell (the original for xbox - not the greatest hits version), a usb flash drive and an xbox usb adapter. Download a modified save file for splinter cell which loads the softmod exploit onto the flash drive, copy it to the xbox hard drive from the flash drive, then load it in the game, it installs the exploit and BAM you're done.

Any questions let me know.

[Jorpho]

Is there any case in which you can put something remotely disc-like into some kind of functioning, read-only disc drive and damage either the disc or the drive?

The only thing that comes to mind is putting a mini-CD into a tray that doesn't have the mini-CD indentation, and even that wouldn't be fatal. (And of course attempting to play a data CD on an audio system can do bad things to the speakers, but I think most players have safeguards against that now.)

[roushimsx]

Is there any case in which you can put something remotely disc-like into some kind of functioning, read-only disc drive and damage either the disc or the drive?

Until I watched a CD-ROM go apeshit and shatter an MSOffice disc, I would have said, "no". I've also seen cases where cd players and consoles would leave a nice, deep scratch in a disc, so anymore I'm all about playing it safe.

[cyberfluxor]

I didn't know there was a Sega CD emu for the Xbox. I am now going to be pressured into getting one on the horizon since SCD addons are nearly $30 around here and an Xbox is $50-60.

[Jorpho]

Until I watched a CD-ROM go apeshit and shatter an MSOffice disc, I would have said, "no". I've also seen cases where cd players and consoles would leave a nice, deep scratch in a disc, so anymore I'm all about playing it safe.

Well, those would not be "functioning" drives then. (That is, they would likely ruin any disc placed in them, including ones that would actually be intended for those drives.)

[GizmoGC]

But softmodding an xbox is simple. All you really need is a copy of Splinter Cell (the original for xbox - not the greatest hits version), a usb flash drive and an xbox usb adapter. Download a modified save file for splinter cell which loads the softmod exploit onto the flash drive, copy it to the xbox hard drive from the flash drive, then load it in the game, it installs the exploit and BAM you're done.

Any questions let me know.

Its THAT easy? Nice!

[c0ldb33r]

Its THAT easy? Nice!
More or less, yeah. I mean, there's a procedure to follow, but that's the skeleton of it.

[Jorpho]

But softmodding an xbox is simple. All you really need is a copy of Splinter Cell (the original for xbox - not the greatest hits version), a usb flash drive and an xbox usb adapter.

Wasn't there someting that worked with Nightfire as well?

[c0ldb33r]

Wasn't there someting that worked with Nightfire as well?
I'm not sure. I know there was something for the original Splinter Cell, Mechwarrior, and 007 Agent under Fire. There may be others, I have no idea. I always used Splinter Cell because that's what I ended up buying :D

[Chadt74]

Coldb33r thanks for the info. I am actually looking for very legitimate stuff with an Xbox. I have a sega CD (non working) and plenty of games which I'd love to play on an xbox instead of plugging in those bricks for the Sega/Sega CD. I've been looking around that website for a short while now, but never saw anything about the Sega CD. Thanks again.

[c0ldb33r]

Well, once you've got a modded xbox, simply load onto it the emulator "NeoGenesis". Once you've got that emulator loaded, there's an option that says "Play inserted CD". It's extremely simple. The hard part is just getting it modded (and that's not even that hard).

NeoGenesis makes playing a Sega CD game as easy as playing a rom. Here (http://xport.xbox-scene.com/frame.html?http://xport.xbox-scene.com/neogenesis.php) is the homepage for NeoGenesis, where you can see screencaps of various games and can see the Play Inserted CD option.

Note: I'm not condoning piracy in any way, I only use roms and CD games that I actually own.

[MarioMania]

Now, Can you do the same with TG-16 CD/Turbo CD's on a PC Engine Emu on the Xbox

[c0ldb33r]

Now, Can you do the same with TG-16 CD/Turbo CD's on a PC Engine Emu on the Xbox
I checked out Zophars Domain (http://www.zophar.net/consoles/xbox.html):

HuGo-X v8 07/31/03 Turbo Grafx 16/PC Engine A port of Hu-Go! for the XBOX by Xport, this has excellent compatibility and plays real TG16 CDs

I've never tried it though.

[roushimsx]

I've never tried it though.

Mednafen is by far a better (more compatible) emulator than Hugo (or any other current TG16/PCE CD emulator right now, commercial or otherwise). The interface on the XBox version is pretty nice (which is the one thing keeping most people from trying the PC version, as its just CLI-based).

[agbulls]

Mednafen is by far a better (more compatible) emulator than Hugo (or any other current TG16/PCE CD emulator right now, commercial or otherwise). The interface on the XBox version is pretty nice (which is the one thing keeping most people from trying the PC version, as its just CLI-based).

Can you confirm if System Card 3.0 games work using this? I would love to know--as I have a copy of Rondo and no Turbo Duo to play it on. Also, if they do work, how good is the emulation?

[Melf]

Can you confirm if System Card 3.0 games work using this? I would love to know--as I have a copy of Rondo and no Turbo Duo to play it on. Also, if they do work, how good is the emulation?

I'm pretty sure that it will run CD games, but they have to be original discs.

I use my modded Xbox for Sega CD games all the time. It's great for easy screen grabs while playing.

[roushimsx]

Well, those would not be "functioning" drives then. (That is, they would likely ruin any disc placed in them, including ones that would actually be intended for those drives.)

All drives are perfectly functional until they one day fuck up and no longer work, so while his Xbox might be working peachy keen right now, what if it fucks up in the future? Would you say that the drive was always nonfunctional or only at the point where it broke/fucked up/shattered your disc? You don't always get a courtesy reach around before a hardware failure.


Wasn't there someting that worked with Nightfire as well?

Agent Under Fire, Splinter Cell, and MechAssault (original runs of each game) are the softmod weapons of choice. I use MechAssault (mainly because I had the other two for Gamecube already) for when I softmod stuff for people. I don't believe any other games have been discovered to have the exploit (or if they have, if anyone has bothered to use it)


Can you confirm if System Card 3.0 games work using this? I would love to know--as I have a copy of Rondo and no Turbo Duo to play it on. Also, if they do work, how good is the emulation?

Mednafen on PC does it peachy-keen (better than Magic Engine, no less...no wonky color issues here!) but I'll test it out on Xbox for you. I don't believe you need original disc images, you just can't be farting around with ghetto ISO+CUE+MP3 garbage. If you're not rollin' with the RIGG releases (or equivalent proper BIN/CUE) then you're going to have problems when you try to run from a CD).

I'll shoot the most recent version over to the Xbox and check for you.

edit (from the Readme)


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Perfect CUE System
------------------

Thanks to the great people at http://necstasy.emunova.net/, you should no
longer have to worry if your CUE sheet has the right indices, gaps, layout, etc.

The PCE TOC database is a compilation of verified TOCs from just about every
single PCE CD game in existence. I have incorporated all of that data into
MednafenX-PCE. The only thing you need to be concerned with is making sure
your CUE sheet points to the correct ISO/MP3 files for each track. You
can still use CDDissect to rip your PCE games:

http://xport.xbox-scene.com/cddissect.php

As long as you have all the ISO/MP3 files and your CUE sheet points to them
correctly, you'll be all set.

Please note the following examples of CUE sheet "FILE" lines:

This is good:

FILE "dynastic_hero02.iso" BINARY


This is bad:

FILE "c:\pcecds\dynastic hero\dynastic_hero02.iso" BINARY

You should not have any paths in your FILE lines. It should simply be the
filename.

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CD Games
--------

To play a CD game, select the CUE sheet. You will then be prompted to select
the name of the game so that MednafenX-PCE can load the correct TOC information.
If you are looking for a specific name but cannot find it, then load up
pcetoc_names.txt in notepad or some other text viewer and search for the name of
the game. (Or some portion of the name.)

The game you are trying to play *does* have an entry in the list. You just have to
find it.



So...yea...money.

Download it! (http://www.roushimsx.com/irc/mednafenx_pce_v2.zip) (please don't pass the link around, thanks)

[Jorpho]

All drives are perfectly functional until they one day fuck up and no longer work, so while his Xbox might be working peachy keen right now, what if it fucks up in the future? Would you say that the drive was always nonfunctional or only at the point where it broke/fucked up/shattered your disc? You don't always get a courtesy reach around before a hardware failure.

The thing is, the mere action of inserting some sort of disc into a drive will not in itself cause the drive to stop working. I'm genuinely interested if there is a particular combination for which this is consistently not the case.

(Come to think of it, I'm told there are some drives that will go nuts if you try to make them read from a "drilled" disc which has actually been obliterated in one spot - such discs are apparently common in some parts of the world where foreign imports are prohibited. But those discs were not exactly designed that way.)

[erehwon]

This is good to know since I'm working on modding an xbox. I picked up a broken xbox for $10. It'll probably be okay once I can replace the busted Thomson drive. Does XBMC have any emulators inside it or can you access emulators from it?

[c0ldb33r]

Mednafen on PC does it peachy-keen (better than Magic Engine, no less...no wonky color issues here!) but I'll test it out on Xbox for you. I don't believe you need original disc images, you just can't be farting around with ghetto ISO+CUE+MP3 garbage. If you're not rollin' with the RIGG releases (or equivalent proper BIN/CUE) then you're going to have problems when you try to run from a CD).
But can you play a game directly from an authentic game disc? or do you have to rip it into a bin/cue?

[roushimsx]

But can you play a game directly from an authentic game disc? or do you have to rip it into a bin/cue?

Indeed it does work just fine, good sir. I played a bit of Ys III and Nekketsu Koukou Dodgeball Bu: CD Soccer Hen right off of the original CDs (there's a "Launch Inserted Disc" choice on the main menu). Ripping to images is just a handy dandy way around having to swap discs (or take them out of their cases if you're paranoid).