View Full Version : Achievements or gameplay?
digdug
03-31-2007, 12:28 PM
Which do you play for on your x-box 360? Lately i seem to be playing for unlocking the achievements not so much the gameplay. Even though my achievement points level is low i love to hear that sound of "achievement unlocked".
Dig Dug
s1lence
03-31-2007, 01:16 PM
Depends on my mood, but for the most part i'm looking at gameplay and the challenge of getting certain achievements. (Which involves gameplay :D)
kaedesdisciple
03-31-2007, 03:12 PM
I think they go hand in hand and therefore go for both. However, I hate playing on Live with people that are just going after achievements, damn the rest of the team.
jajaja
03-31-2007, 03:13 PM
These achivement points, are they only for self pleasure (like high score) or can you do something with them?
Nesmaster
03-31-2007, 03:44 PM
These achivement points, are they only for self pleasure (like high score) or can you do something with them?
They're useless, but that doesn't mean you can't be horribly addicted to unlocking them. I'm picking up crappy 360 games left right and centre for cheap just so I can get achievements from them. Most of the time I end up at least enjoying these games anyways because achievements are fun to unlock, but I wouldn't have bothered otherwise if the game didn't have achievements.
Yeah, achievements are a dangerous thing ;)
TurboGenesis
03-31-2007, 03:58 PM
I have my Xbox 360 since day one(November 21, 2005) and my gamerscore is 990 as of today (March 31, 2007). That may be clue on my perspective of achievement point.
jajaja
03-31-2007, 04:07 PM
They're useless, but that doesn't mean you can't be horribly addicted to unlocking them. I'm picking up crappy 360 games left right and centre for cheap just so I can get achievements from them. Most of the time I end up at least enjoying these games anyways because achievements are fun to unlock, but I wouldn't have bothered otherwise if the game didn't have achievements.
Yeah, achievements are a dangerous thing ;)
Ok, tnx for the info :) Hehe i know what you mean, when i play a game, sometimes i have to get 100% just to see what happend or for my own "training" ;)
heybtbm
03-31-2007, 05:33 PM
I would say the amount I play a game is primarily based on how good the gameplay is.
However...
Several times I've found myself wasting 2-3 hours (more like 20-30 hours sometimes) trying to get that "last" achievement for whatever game. Overall I would rate "Achievements" as the factor that keeps me playing a specific game much longer than I normally would.
One thing is for certain. All things being equal, I will pick up the 360 version of a game over the PS3...strickly because of the achievements.
GillianSeed
03-31-2007, 05:49 PM
I guess I can understand the appeal to a certain extent -- things like achievements and gamerscores could be viewed as the natural extension of the early high score tables at the arcade.
But personally they feel like marketing gimmicks to me -- "Buy the Xbox camera so you can earn the 'map your face' achievement" and so on. I've never gone out of my way to earn either in any of the games I play, much less buy or rent a game for that specific purpose.
I prefer my extras to be game-specific. Killing X amount of guys to unlock Iron Man's original costume? Great. Killing X amount of guys simply to extend my epeen? No thanks.
Nesmaster
03-31-2007, 05:50 PM
One thing is for certain. All things being equal, I will pick up the 360 version of a game over the PS3...strickly because of the achievements.
Yep. When I get my PS3 eventually the thing that will make me get the 360 version of a multiplatform game EVERY time, will be the achievements. Regardless if the PS3 version has extras, looks better, or whatever, I'll sacrifice that all for the 1000 points in the 360 version.
Nebagram
03-31-2007, 06:40 PM
I'm pretty much 95% gameplay-oriented. Sometimes, when I see an easy achievement that I haven't got, I'll go out of my way to pick it up (recent case in point: the 'platinum medal using MT' in PGR3) but usually, I play games to have fun and enjoy playing games, not to brag about a high score or anything similar.
NE146
03-31-2007, 10:40 PM
They're useless, but that doesn't mean you can't be horribly addicted to unlocking them.
That was true for the most part. But did you not sign up for the Old Spice challenge where you get free stuff for achievement points? I already got my free xblive Contra download just from getting 1500 pts. :D (Thank the crappy King Kong for that LOL)
GizmoGC
03-31-2007, 10:50 PM
I have my Xbox 360 since day one(November 21, 2005) and my gamerscore is 990 as of today (March 31, 2007). That may be clue on my perspective of achievement point.
Which means you don't really play very many games at all, as most games will unlock 300-500 just by beating it. Sure, some games like Perfect Dark Zero only give you 10 points for beating the entire game, but most achievements are unlocked just by beating a level or getting a new power-up.
Half Japanese
03-31-2007, 10:52 PM
Eh, I'm only at about 2500 or so achievement points. I like unlocking them, it does make you feel special and alive, like when a butterfly lands on a retarded boy's head, but they don't make me want to play crappy games or overplay a game I'm tired of to wring all the possible points out of it.
Nesmaster
03-31-2007, 11:31 PM
That was true for the most part. But did you not sign up for the Old Spice challenge where you get free stuff for achievement points? I already got my free xblive Contra download just from getting 1500 pts. :D (Thank the crappy King Kong for that LOL)
Oh ya, forgot about that. But that was a US only, so I was SOL :(.
NE146
04-01-2007, 11:39 AM
I'm pretty much 95% gameplay-oriented. Sometimes, when I see an easy achievement that I haven't got, I'll go out of my way to pick it up (recent case in point: the 'platinum medal using MT' in PGR3) but usually, I play games to have fun and enjoy playing games, not to brag about a high score or anything similar.
Yeah all that means is you dont play any games. Because if you did, it just comes up.
For a long time all my achievement points were strictly from games like Robotron & Time Pilot, etc. :P
Lil_John
04-01-2007, 11:46 AM
Yeeaahya!
Humongous Forum Troll
04-01-2007, 12:03 PM
Yeeaahya!
Do you speak english? Have some dignity.
GillianSeed
04-01-2007, 12:04 PM
Do you speak english? Have some dignity.
If I had a "Lil John," I'd probably scream too.
digdug
04-01-2007, 04:49 PM
Well I read somewhere that Microsoft has something planned on the achievement points. Anybody else here anything on this?
TurboGenesis
04-01-2007, 10:31 PM
Which means you don't really play very many games at all, as most games will unlock 300-500 just by beating it. Sure, some games like Perfect Dark Zero only give you 10 points for beating the entire game, but most achievements are unlocked just by beating a level or getting a new power-up.
I don't really play any games. I just stare at my 360 in all its glowing white glory! Just sits there humming all good with a little glowing green light in the upper left corner in the power circle. Pretty cool.
The truth - I got 150 pts in Time Pilot, 180 in Contra, 100 in Lumines, 125 in Enchanted Arms, 355 in Test Drive, 40 in Hexic, 20 in DOA4 and a few misc in some other games. If you play the games I like the way I do you get some achievements but some require straight up bulljunk to get the rest. I got 1000 games across 15 consoles to play so yeah it takes some time to get anything done in a new generation game sorry.
RPG_Fanatic
04-01-2007, 10:37 PM
One thing is for certain. All things being equal, I will pick up the 360 version of a game over the PS3...strickly because of the achievements.
I'm the same. I'll buy the 360 version just for the achievements, all my friends say the samething.
TurboGenesis
04-01-2007, 10:47 PM
I'm the same. I'll buy the 360 version just for the achievements, all my friends say the samething.
There is one game I am getting on PS3 over the 360 - Virtua Tennis 3.
I just spent $100 on a High Grade arcade stick for PS3 and its specially made for both VF5 and Virtua Tennis 3. So I am bringing the arcade experience home and getting Tennis on PS3.
Otherwise I am impartial on what system I get a game on. What ever comes out first I guess.
NE146
04-02-2007, 12:28 AM
If you play the games I like the way I do you get some achievements but some require straight up bulljunk to get the rest..
You're absolutely right about that. Look at Crackdown. I finished it, but there are just some bullshit stuff to do for achievement points... like the "agility races" I'm sorry but those are just sad!
Put it this way, translate an "agility race" to a 2D environment and it's shallowness shines through. It's like putting a couple of screens of blocks and making mario jump through them for about 10 minutes in a circle.. yay. fun times! :roll: Sorry man I aint gonna sit there doing that boring shit for b.s. points :P
hezeuschrist
04-02-2007, 01:42 AM
Whaat? The rooftop races in crackdown being sad?
Or am I missing some thinly veiled sarcasm?
Nebagram
04-02-2007, 02:58 PM
Yeah all that means is you dont play any games. Because if you did, it just comes up.
More likely I'm simply playing the wrong ones, either that or completing career mode on NFS Carbon really is only worth 75 gamerpoints out of 1000, finishing the main quest in oblivion is 250/1250... that said though, a lot of my lack of gamerscore does come from not playing online much- which is where A LOT of games nowadays draw points from (see: just about every XBLA game, Gears, TDU, all the first-person shooters etc).