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zektor
04-02-2007, 12:03 AM
When I like a system, I like to read threads from various sources, here included, to get information and talk with others that enjoy the system as I do. While there are some like this, the amount of negative threads out there far outweigh the good ones. People have their reasons to love or bash I suppose, but it kind of stinks when you cannot even have a conversation about your beloved game system without it being destroyed by negativity. Here is my effort to actually "talk" about the PS3.

I have owned the system now for two or so months I believe, and I do have to say that I really love it! Not too many games out right now, but I have a few that I am really enjoying at the moment. Of course Resistance, MotorStorm is neat, and RR7 is just awesome. I have always been a Ridge Racer fan, and 7 definitely satisfies.

I do alot of family home videos with a DV camcorder. I always extract them to MPEG2 due to the fact that it has decent compression while retaining DVD quality playback. I used to rip to DV-AVI, but anybody that does this knows that you are talking ALOT of space per hour, so MPEG2 does me good. I have them all backed up to DVDs, and it was especially sweet to see them automatically work perfectly on the PS3. I could not get anything other than WMV to work on the 360, and while the quality was decent, it was definitely not MPEG2 quality. It's nice that I can pop in these DVD's and browse and play the videos.

While I am on that subject, it seems the PS3 has really great compatibility with many formats, as well as much hardware. I plugged in my USB keyboard and mouse, USB card reader, and a USB external HD and they all worked instantly. VERY nice to know that upgradability is just this easy.

I purchased and downloaded one game so far (not like there is a huge selection, but) and that game is Lemmings. I have been a bigt fan since the Amiga days, and this has to be the best version I have ever played. Really loving this one at the moment. I hope to see more titles of this quality in the Playstation store in the future.

I also recently installed Linux on the system. This just takes the cake. Simply awesome. I cannot see how (for $600), getting a next gen game system, BD player, and (with Linux installed) a fully functional computer is a bad deal. I can do just about anything with the PS3 and Linux that I can do with my home PC. Heck, if I didn't have a home PC I could just use the PS3 alone...that is how good it runs.

I have also been re-collecting PS1 and PS2 games as well. I no longer have these systems, and it is great that the PS3 has the backward compatibility. The compatibility seems pretty rock solid too, as with the over 50 titles (PS1 and PS2) I have yet to have a problem loading one. Good job Sony on this part.

Well, this is what I have been doing with it thus far, and some reasons I am really enjoying my PS3. Any other non-fanboy, non-flaming, positive posts are surely welcome!

Mianrtcv
04-02-2007, 12:33 AM
It is certainly enjoyable. I am short on time as of late, so the lack of games does not affect me too much. It is definitely a well thought out piece of hardware with many nice features and functions. As for the games... Yes, too few... For now. Once the train starts rolling... and it will, then this will truly be an excellent system.

zektor
04-02-2007, 12:46 AM
The wait for more games really doesn't bother me either. I work a whole lot, and get my fill on the games I do have...when I have the time to play them :) I'm sure we'll see a game explosion over the summertime, and the real problems I'll be having are time and money. Time to play them and the money to buy them! I guess I should be saving some cash. Already have my $60 set aside for F.E.A.R.

noname11
04-02-2007, 02:53 AM
I'm going to give my props for all of the reasons previously stated.


If you look at the PS3 as basically an inexpensive computer/ Blue ray player / Game system, the 600$ isnt too bad an asking price. I never got around to buying the PS2 , so as the ps3 plays ps2 games w/ a wireless controller and no need for memory cards , there was no question of which next gen system was going to get my $ and attention.


I just wish sony would release PSONE games that werent soo damn common!

Does anyone know whether there are specific emulators for linux w/ the ps3 in mind? like the controller buttons mapped for the ps3 controller. id love to play my snes and nes roms that way [and this would make me reconsider purchasing the wii]

smork
04-02-2007, 04:49 AM
I'll be quite positive!

I am looking forward to getting one -- I have had the chance to play extensively on one and I like it alot. I've heard nothing but good about how well multiplayer works internationally with no lag (important in my part of the world, as there aren't so many local players).

My only hesitations -- 1) no rumble, but I am just going to have to live without 2) worried about scaling issues, as I "only" have a 1080i TV. I'm sure they'll have something fixed with that.

But with more games coming down the pipeline it's going to be a no-brainer to have one soon. For all it's flaws with hardware and reliability, the PS2 was still an amazing console due to the sheer breath of its game selection -- and in the end, I am sure PS3 will have a similar variety.

(For the record, I am no Sony fanboy, as I have a DC avatar (and still play my DC all the time) and currently play the hell out of my 360. I just love good games, and still think the support from dev houses will come for the PS3.)

MarkMan
04-02-2007, 05:27 AM
I love my PS3.

For the single fact that it has a Tekken game.

:)

Spartacus
04-02-2007, 05:28 AM
It's nice to read some favorable comments about the PS3. I'm curious if anyone knows if the PS3 is region free. Will it play Japanese PS1 and PS2 games?

TurboGenesis
04-02-2007, 08:47 AM
It's nice to read some favorable comments about the PS3. I'm curious if anyone knows if the PS3 is region free. Will it play Japanese PS1 and PS2 games?

Unfortunatly, No :( , Japan PS1 and PS2 games are still locked out. PS3 games are the only games that are region free.

I am currently delighted with my PS3 as of right now. I have been playing alot of Virtua Fighter 5 with my High Grade arcade stick. I am looking forward to also picking up Virtua Tennis 3.

Blast Factor is a great arena shoot them up which also intergrates the SixAxix well into the game play. Good use of tilting the arena can lead to big gains when playing for a good score.

The PlayStation 3 is a very nice console and has a lot of cool features. Also of note, (knock on wood) the PlayStation 3 seems to be holding up well. I have not heard any reports of defective consoles as of yet. Remember when the 360 launched there was a high failure rate? That debacle of consoles giving that ring of red. PlayStation 3 may be Sony's best console to date durability wise.

RadiantSvgun
04-02-2007, 08:58 AM
During my spring break, I got the chance to play a ps3. I got to play Virtua Fighter 5 and was amazed. I would like to eventually get one, especially since my ps2 may not hold out much longer. I think the big issue with it is the price tag. People may be seeing that and not giving it a chance.

heybtbm
04-02-2007, 09:56 AM
I'm sure we'll see a game explosion over the summertime, and the real problems I'll be having are time and money.

Yup...an explosion of old 360 ports.

Seriously though:

The PS3 will be a necessity for J-RPG fans. The 360 and Wii look like they'll get a few J-RPG's (more than the last generation)...but the PS3 will be getting the bulk. The A-list RPG titles from Atlus, Nippon Ichi, Namco, and the majority of Square Enix are still going to be Sony exclusives. For that reason alone, a PS3 is going to be a worthy purchase.

If the new Shin Megami Tensei or Disgaea are announced as exclusives...I will buy a PS3 the next day.

mailman187666
04-02-2007, 10:21 AM
I think PS3 is a great system also. I've always liked Sony and the games they come out with. I can't wait for that Home thing to come out, it will be pretty fun. I'm not going to get into specifics, I just thinks its fun.

ShenmueFan
04-02-2007, 02:03 PM
I think it has a lot of potential and I bet once the developers harness the system it'll have graphics the 360 can't touch. Lets just hope they can do that fairly soon...maybe Square or Konami will figure it out w/ their deep pockets.

I also hope Sony can make their online community unique and very different from Live or the Wii Channels. It'd be a shame if Sony only aims to copy the competition. Maybe their "Second Life"-type online world will actually be functional and fun (unlike Second Life!).

I dunno - I think the PS3 has potential and it isn't dead yet...I just hope Sony gets its act together sooner than later.

Flack
04-02-2007, 02:55 PM
I don't think we've heard the last about rumble on the PS3. Between settling the lawsuit and the large amount of complaints from customers, I suspect we'll see a PS3 controller with rumble included before long.

I'm still up in the air about my PS3. Most of the games that I like for it are available for the PS2/Xbox systems as well. I hope to pick up a HDTV soon, so when I do maybe the hi-def graphics will become more evident.

geneshifter
04-02-2007, 05:51 PM
I don't think we've heard the last about rumble on the PS3. Between settling the lawsuit and the large amount of complaints from customers, I suspect we'll see a PS3 controller with rumble included before long.

I'm still up in the air about my PS3. Most of the games that I like for it are available for the PS2/Xbox systems as well. I hope to pick up a HDTV soon, so when I do maybe the hi-def graphics will become more evident.

Oh yeah, you'll notice the difference, lol. I used to hook up my 360 (when I still had it) to my standard def TV and when I bought the VGA cable and hooked it up to my computer monitor, I could not believe the difference. You'll absolutely LOVE the PS3 on that HDTV. Mark my words.

whoisKeel
04-02-2007, 09:54 PM
I don't have a PS3, but Uncharted: Drake's Fortune looks like it is going to be awesome. There's a huge writeup in the April Game Informer.

chrisbid
04-03-2007, 12:09 AM
you see a lot of negative statements about the PS3 because sony over-promised and under-delievered

mailman187666
04-03-2007, 11:14 AM
you see a lot of negative statements about the PS3 because sony over-promised and under-delievered

M$ underdelivered on the XBOX too in the beggining. I'm not a fanboy trying to start an arguement or nuthin' like that (I own a 360 a shit loads of games for it). When PS2 first came out, what game was better than Dynasty Warriors at the time (for close to launch releases). I think the only reason for most of the negetive press is the high price. If it cost the same as a 360, I bet there would be WAYYYYYYY less negitivity about it. I love PS3 and if they want to give it negetive press, I don't really care because I have fun with it.

On the other hand, if one of my close friends was trying to decide between 360 or PS3 to buy within' the next couple weeks, I would tell them to get a 360 because it is more established right now. If my friend says they want to buy a new system within' the next year, I would tell them PS3. To me, that makes sense.

I personally own all 3 systems so I'm the neutral guy anyways

TurboGenesis
04-03-2007, 11:25 AM
I personally own all 3 systems so I'm the neutral guy anyways

I was like, me too

slip81
04-03-2007, 12:16 PM
I'll probably get one eventually, though I'm staying away from current gen stuff for a while.

I had a 360, and it honestly didn't thrill me that much. I played all the big games on it (Oblivion, Dead Rising, GoW, GRAW, Saint's Row, CoD), and nothing really held my interest except for Burnout revenge and Project Gotham 3.

The Wii still really doesn't interest me, and the PS3 is the same way. Though once the big games like Gran Turismo, Midnight Club, MGS 4, Devil May Cry and the J-RPG's start to roll out I'll probably pick one up.

Also if Blu-Ray becomes the dominant format I'll get one regardless of the games just to use as a cheap Blu-ray player.

zektor
04-03-2007, 02:15 PM
you see a lot of negative statements about the PS3 because sony over-promised and under-delievered

See, this is something I would like elaborated upon tho. Over-promised and under-delivered how?

I don't really keep up on what the company said and did not deliver upon, so I honestly do not know. Was it the amount of games upon release? Was it the power of the system? Was it the price? Was it online capabilities?

See, all I do know is that I purchased a system that is backward compatible to such a degree that I can go ahead and play my original PS1 and my PS2 games. That is great. I own a few PS3 games now, and they look and play great. And, as an added bonus, I can use the game console for the various other things I listed earlier (media playback, running Linux, etc). All seems pretty darn great on this end :)

BHvrd
04-03-2007, 07:18 PM
@Zektor, you said you wanted a good thread. Don't focus on comparing, lol. I love the PS3 myself and if Motorstorm is any sign of what the system is capable of, we got some great games coming.

The best thing i'm impressed with is not only are the graphics GREAT, BUT THEY RUN AT AT LEAST 30FPS+++. This shows the system once fully realized is probably going to be capable of the renders they showed before launch.

The more I experience how solid a machine the ps3 is the more I see that they had all departments come together to get their ducks in a row.

What am I talking about you may ask? Well, take multi-tap controllers on ps for example. They made it where you can assign the multi-tap ports. They made it where you can create virtual memory cards. They made it where you can use a ps2 startup disc and the system connects to ps2 online games through the wireless connection.

This may all seem minimal to some, but it shows they are starting from the bottom and working up. It shows they are attempting to cover all angles, which is a great sign.

Enough of that though lets get to the games. Resistance 40 player online....awesome no lag love it. Motorstorm...12 player online...awesome...motion sensitive works great, no lag.

The downloadable selection of games is limited when compared to 360, but 360 has a year+ head start. Plus I like that almost every game on their is decent, and it's not a bunch of crap. I say put stuff on there see what people like and go from there, which is what they seem to be doing.

I downloaded Destruction Derby to my PSP...AWESOME. GREAT PORT! PERFECT. Sony has got the emulation stuff down.

Lemmings is cool, lol, trying to beat scores is fun, damn cheaters.

Ok, i'm jumping around a bit, but it's kinda fun to do that, and that's what I do with my PS3. I jump from one thing to another cause the interface is nice simple and effective, very easy to navigate and multitask.

I prefer Sony's online service to Xbox Live. After 2 years of Xbox Live I can honestly say...I LIKE TO BE ANOYNOMUS. Screw having someone giving me bad feedback cause i'm good at a game and they are losers. Screw having someone message me while i'm watching a movie "so annoying". I don't need big brother watching over me that much.

Ok, all ranting aside.

The PS3 is my system i've made the plunge. So many great old game to collect, awesome next gen gaming, psp connection, I swear this thing is on 24/7.

It's the first system since Dreamcast that I have had on this long. I love it. I'm glad I bought one. I'm going to install an OS or something on it one day, lol. Once they work kinks out and all.

I'm really impressed with all you can do with PS3. I love's it.

Nature Boy
04-04-2007, 03:09 PM
I don't own a PS3, but a co-worker does and he brought it in to work with Resistance to show off and play on one of our HD Monitors in a board room.

I was most definitely impressed.

Since I wasn't playing (I declined, as the easiest way to not want something is to not experience it, and I'm not ready to shell out dough for a PS3 anytime soon :) ), I could just look around at whatever I felt like, and the detail and the amount of 'bullets' flying around blew me away. He was at this part where this huge War of the Worlds-ish spider thing was bearing down on him and kicking his ass (and the next guy's ass, and the next...) and, well, it definitely impressed me as an impressive system.

dethink
04-06-2007, 02:26 AM
I'm very happy with my PS3.

It doesn't sound like a harrier jet taking off.

It doesn't break. (yet)

The interface on my expensive new console doesn't look like the front page of myspace.

The online portion does what it needs to do and isn't full of "OMG PWNED HEADSHOT!!1" screaming kids. (what BHrvd said)

While there is a 'lack' of games right now, between the ones I am playing plus scouring CC racks for clearance PS2 games (DMC 3-pack for $25! w00t!), I am more than occupied.

...and F1 Championship is the SHIT. Yes, the replays look a bit flat (hence all the "not that pretty/nex-gen" criticisms), but in game? Pssshaw. Awesome. Nothing else currently out there touches it. The in-car view in PGR3 doesn't have anything on this immersion-wise. Every corner is a life-or-death matter. Every rain storm is a personal affront from above. If you're willing to put in the whole afternoon it takes to learn the ropes (seriously, I think most reviewers didn't even play the game) it's one of the most satisfying driving games I've ever had the pleasure of playing.

Some of the games may not be as directly pretty as GoW or whatever, but everything I've played so far seems to have a lot more "going on" graphically, which to me is way cooler.

zektor
04-07-2007, 03:53 AM
The more I play, the more I love. I am held up in the house with a chest infection now, and had to call out of work today. I spent the entire day on all sorts of medications, and of course playing the PS3. I spent a few good hours on Resistance. Wow, what a fantastic game. I usually never have this kind of time to relax and invest in some game time, and this was a whole lot of fun. Now that I am getting much better at the game, it is extremely enjoyable.

My wife also grabbed some retro compilations (PS2) for me. Spent some time with the second volume of the Capcom Collection, and some time with the arrangements in Namco Museum.

Not a great day (I hate being sick), but having the PS3 here was definitely a good thing. Maybe I should get sick more often! j/k

dethink
04-07-2007, 09:55 AM
Picked up Motorstorm yesterday thinking I wouldn't like it, but I'm hooked. It's the new Wave Race 64. :D

Do they have the PS3's at best buy hooked up through composite cables or did they clean up the retail build a lot? It looked like a PS2 title with HDR lighting on the instore demo, but looks freakin' incredible on my TV at home. There's some serious draw distance there.

zektor
04-07-2007, 10:12 AM
Picked up Motorstorm yesterday thinking I wouldn't like it, but I'm hooked. It's the new Wave Race 64. :D

Do they have the PS3's at best buy hooked up through composite cables or did they clean up the retail build a lot? It looked like a PS2 title with HDR lighting on the instore demo, but looks freakin' incredible on my TV at home. There's some serious draw distance there.


I think many have them hooked up composite...at least the few stores around me that I have seen the PS3 hooked up to do. The only place I have really seen the PS3 hooked up right is at Walmart. I originally had the PS3 hooked up to my 37" Sanyo (older TV) and it looked like crap. I swapped over to my 32" Sony Wega (one of the first models, 2001) and it was like night and day. Unfortunately, the wega is the best TV I own, and I only get 480i, but it definitely will do the trick until some of those awesome sets come down in price.

It really is a shame that the unit is not hooked up HD everywhere. I think if people saw it the way it was intended the WOW factor would be so much greater.

godsey1
04-07-2007, 11:27 AM
I love my PS3, and the game that is the best so far is Motor Storm! Can't wait to see if Dead Rising comes to this system :) I would hate to buy an X-Box 360 just to play this game(I'm not against the 360. as it is a great system also).

Tony

zektor
04-07-2007, 01:09 PM
You guys try Motorstorm from the in-car view? My god, what a trip! Yes, I have to agree, this is one of the best titles out there for the PS3 to date. Graphically, I think it is the best game I have ever seen honestly.

dethink
04-07-2007, 02:40 PM
You guys try Motorstorm from the in-car view? My god, what a trip! Yes, I have to agree, this is one of the best titles out there for the PS3 to date. Graphically, I think it is the best game I have ever seen honestly.

It doesn't jump out as "OMG AMAZING!!!11!1!" like Gears did, but when you see it in motion, and notice all the little details, it really is incredible visually.

They must have it hooked up through composite at the stores here though, it seriously looked atrocious in the demo.

BHvrd
04-07-2007, 03:50 PM
The visuals and framerate were pretty terrible on the demo. Dunno why.

heybtbm
04-09-2007, 10:38 AM
Well I finally went out and bought a 60 GB PS3 with Resistance, VF5, and Motorstorm on Friday. I had been buying accessories for the PS3 since it's launch, but never actually got the system. Friday morning I received my PS3 Virtua Stick from Play-Asia and decided that I had waited long enough.

The above mentioned games are excellent...far far better than I thought they would be. Specifically, I'm talking about Resistance...which is pretty much a flawless online and offline experience. The Lemmings demo was fun and warranted an immediate download. It's definitely the best version of the game I've played (I've owned just about every version since the SNES).

Overall, I'm very impressed with the PS3. Now if we just didn't have to wait until September for some good games (that aren't 360 ports).

jajaja
04-13-2007, 01:34 PM
Some new Lair in-game movies :)

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?type=wmv&id=18553

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?type=wmv&id=18555

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?type=wmv&id=18549

Trebuken
04-13-2007, 02:26 PM
I beat Untold LEgends: Dark Kingdom today, and have to say I thoroughly enjoyed the game. It is a purely hack and slash game, weak stry/plot, etc., but great action. I have seen nothing but marginal reviews about this game, and many have said that it's not a big leap over the PS2, but hav to disagree. Played on a large screen this game looks great, still a little polygonal, but great for a launch title. The battle can get very intense with lots of enemies, and large ones, with no slow down. The PS2 could not have done what this game does.

This being a positive PS3 thread I thought I'd chime in, and suggest you give this game a rent if you like the 'Gauntlet' style of gameplay.

BocoDragon
04-13-2007, 03:29 PM
Thanks for the positive thread.

I might have to pick one up before they go software emulation only. My hope is that older PS3s will let you use upscaled HD software emulation as an option, but you'll always have the hardware chips to fall back on for 100% compatability.

agbulls
04-13-2007, 04:09 PM
I beat Untold LEgends: Dark Kingdom today, and have to say I thoroughly enjoyed the game. It is a purely hack and slash game, weak stry/plot, etc., but great action. I have seen nothing but marginal reviews about this game, and many have said that it's not a big leap over the PS2, but hav to disagree. Played on a large screen this game looks great, still a little polygonal, but great for a launch title. The battle can get very intense with lots of enemies, and large ones, with no slow down. The PS2 could not have done what this game does.

This being a positive PS3 thread I thought I'd chime in, and suggest you give this game a rent if you like the 'Gauntlet' style of gameplay.

I really appreciate those comments Trebuken. I'm loving my PS3 and have considered this game but am always told to avoid it by my buddies. Considering I like hack n slash games and D&D I'll probably pick it up. Are the graphics real shiny? I love shiny :)

SaturnFan
04-13-2007, 10:11 PM
Just bought MKII today from the PS Store, it's great fun!

zektor
04-14-2007, 09:28 AM
Just bought MKII today from the PS Store, it's great fun!

I saw that. Nice that they are adding things almost on a daily basis now. I passed on this one however because Midway Arcade Treasures 2 was only $5 more new on ebay and includes this game and 19 others :) Last game I purchased on the store was "Blast Factor". It didn't get outstanding reviews but I think the game is really good.

zektor
04-14-2007, 09:29 AM
Thanks for the positive thread.

I might have to pick one up before they go software emulation only. My hope is that older PS3s will let you use upscaled HD software emulation as an option, but you'll always have the hardware chips to fall back on for 100% compatability.


Software emulation only? Is there something I am missing here? Enlighten me! :)

EDIT: Nevermind. I did a search and read about the Euro PS3. Man, that stinks. Well, this may be a route that SOny can take to lower the PS3's price, which will be good for some down the road, but I am really glad I have my hardware compatibility. Every PS2 game I throw at mine works. I have yet to have an issue.

heybtbm
04-14-2007, 09:43 AM
I might have to pick one up before they go software emulation only. My hope is that older PS3s will let you use up scaled HD software emulation as an option, but you'll always have the hardware chips to fall back on for 100% compatibility.

This was one of the reasons I bought a PS3 sooner than later. Realistically speaking, Sony will eventually switch to software emulation in the US and Japan. I can't stress enough how cool it is to have a system that can play 3 generations of games (with no issues) right out of the box.

zektor
04-14-2007, 09:51 AM
This was one of the reasons I bought a PS3 sooner than later. Realistically speaking, Sony will eventually switch to software emulation in the US and Japan. I can't stress enough how cool it is to have a system that can play 3 generations of games (with no issues) right out of the box.


Agreed. Talk about backward compatibility! I can pop in my very first game purchased back in 1995, and it works! Call it luck if a videogame manufacturer includes compatibility with their previous machine, but to include compatibility from their previous TWO machines is just awesome. Sad to see they are going the emulation route, but very glad I made my purchase when I did.

Trebuken
04-15-2007, 02:13 PM
I really appreciate those comments Trebuken. I'm loving my PS3 and have considered this game but am always told to avoid it by my buddies. Considering I like hack n slash games and D&D I'll probably pick it up. Are the graphics real shiny? I love shiny :)


The game is very nice on a big screen HDTV, but on a conventional TV it fails to impress....

geneshifter
04-23-2007, 09:58 AM
I have finally decided to get a PS3 over the Xbox 360. There is only 1 game that I wanted to play on the 360 and that's Gears. The games for PS3 are just more my style and the promotions going on at Gamestop put me over the edge. I was looking to get a 360 Elite but the price at $475 and $200 more for the HiDef player put it more than the PS3 anyways. I can't wait to get it today.

You guys that have had it for a while, what downloads should I get first off the playstation online service?

heybtbm
04-23-2007, 10:30 AM
You guys that have had it for a while, what downloads should I get first off the playstation online service?

The PS3 version of Lemmings is the best version I've played...and I've been played just about every version of the game since '92. I love these new HD versions of classic games, whether it's on XBLA or the Playstation Store. Download the Lemmings demo and you'll see what I mean.

swlovinist
04-23-2007, 10:40 AM
I dont have anything bad to say about the PS3, other than I cannot afford it. Hopefully in years ahead it will be be in my price range. By then, I can use what it has...a blue ray player.

agbulls
04-23-2007, 03:17 PM
The game is very nice on a big screen HDTV, but on a conventional TV it fails to impress....

Well, I picked up Untold Legends today solely on that recommendation. Hopefully its a good time, I'll let you know what I think.

Rob2600
04-24-2007, 12:30 PM
Talk about backward compatibility! I can pop in my very first game purchased back in 1995, and it works!

That's cool, but how many old PlayStation games from 1995 do you genuinely want to play? I still see backwards-compatibility as a novelty.

Another question: Why was the PlayStation 2 released without built-in four-player support? Nintendo 64 had it. Dreamcast had it. Even the Atari 2600 had it when using the paddles. Did Sony really need to squeeze more money out of its customers with another Multitap?

jajaja
04-24-2007, 01:07 PM
Another question: Why was the PlayStation 2 released without built-in four-player support? Nintendo 64 had it. Dreamcast had it. Even the Atari 2600 had it when using the paddles. Did Sony really need to squeeze more money out of its customers with another Multitap?

Before answering, this is suppose to be a good thread, not a thread were discussions about bad things or what Sony consoles are missing. There is a 4 player adapter for PSX and PS2, problem solved. How often do you play 4 player?

Rob2600
04-24-2007, 01:31 PM
Before answering, this is suppose to be a good thread, not a thread were discussions about bad things or what Sony consoles are missing. There is a 4 player adapter for PSX and PS2, problem solved. How often do you play 4 player?

I just thought it was lame how Sony sold a Playstation version of the Multitap and then later on, a PlayStation 2 version of the Multitap, when several other consoles at the time already had four-player support built-in.

The good news is PlayStation 3 has built-in wireless multi-player support. No more Multitaps. :)

jajaja
04-24-2007, 01:44 PM
I dont know why Sony didnt include it, but i guess they didnt think it was nessessary. There arent exactly that many games that supports 4 player and adding 2 extra controller ports would cost more money, so it was also to save money of course. But the solution is there, a multi-tap, just costs alittle money if you want it ;)

Indeed, nice that PS3 got it now, but i'd probly never play more than 2 player on it. We'll see :) Btw, is it possible to get a cord-PS3 controller?

PS: Didnt mean to sound rude in the previous post if it was understood like that.

heybtbm
04-24-2007, 01:47 PM
That's cool, but how many old PlayStation games from 1995 do you genuinely want to play? I still see backwards-compatibility as a novelty.

You do know that this is a retro gaming site...right? Kind of silly to ask that question around here.

Anway, my PS3 is my PS2 and PS1 right now. Backwards compatibility is essential for those of us who hate a bunch of consoles hooked up to one TV. Just my personal preference.

Rob2600
04-24-2007, 01:49 PM
I dont know why Sony didnt include it, but i guess they didnt think it was nessessary. There arent exactly that many games that supports 4 player

Maybe if they had four-player support built-in like some of the other consoles, developers would have created more four-player games. At least Sony got that right this time around.

Rob2600
04-24-2007, 01:52 PM
You do know that this is a retro gaming site...right? Kind of silly to ask that question around here.

Anway, my PS3 is my PS2 and PS1 right now. Backwards compatibility is essential for those of us who hate a bunch of consoles hooked up to one TV. Just my personal preference.

I know and I understand. I play a lot of old games, too. I'm just curious how many PlayStation games from 1995 people still currently play. I could see some of the third or fourth generation games, but many of the first-generation (1995-1996) ones are a mess.

heybtbm
04-24-2007, 02:09 PM
I could see some of the third or fourth generation games, but many of the first-generation (1995-1996) ones are a mess.

True.

Andred
04-24-2007, 02:17 PM
There are a few things I really like about the PS3. First off, Sony gets my respect for NOT locking down what hard drives can be used, unlike Microsoft who charges an arm and a leg for a tiny hard drive. Also, the backwards compatibility is good which makes it a prime candidate for all my Playstation needs once the price comes down.

heybtbm
04-24-2007, 03:01 PM
There are a few things I really like about the PS3. First off, Sony gets my respect for NOT locking down what hard drives can be used, unlike Microsoft who charges an arm and a leg for a tiny hard drive. Also, the backwards compatibility is good which makes it a prime candidate for all my Playstation needs once the price comes down.

No regional lock-outs is nice too.

agbulls
04-24-2007, 05:11 PM
No regional lock-outs is nice too.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this only applies to PS3 games, right?

blissfulnoise
04-24-2007, 06:07 PM
I know and I understand. I play a lot of old games, too. I'm just curious how many PlayStation games from 1995 people still currently play. I could see some of the third or fourth generation games, but many of the first-generation (1995-1996) ones are a mess.

X-Com. Raiden Project. Jumping Flash. Twisted Metal 2. Wipeout XL. Suikoden. Tekken 2. Doom. Legacy of Kain...

Rob2600
04-24-2007, 06:14 PM
X-Com. Raiden Project. Jumping Flash. Twisted Metal 2. Wipeout XL. Suikoden. Tekken 2. Doom. Legacy of Kain...

Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain, Twisted Metal 2, Tekken 2, Wipeout XL, etc. aren't first generation PlayStation games. They were released in late 1996, so they're second generation.

jajaja
04-24-2007, 06:21 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this only applies to PS3 games, right?

Yep, only PS3 games. PAL and NTSC games are pretty much going away since now its 1 standard, HD. They can most likely still put region codes on specific games tho, but dunno if that will happend or be common like it is on Xbox 360.

TurboGenesis
04-24-2007, 11:23 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this only applies to PS3 games, right?

Right. PlayStation 1 and PlayStation 2 out of region games are not work.


I know and I understand. I play a lot of old games, too. I'm just curious how many PlayStation games from 1995 people still currently play. I could see some of the third or fourth generation games, but many of the first-generation (1995-1996) ones are a mess.

Get ready. I play:

Raiden Project
Darkstalkers
Tekken
Twisted Metal
Wipeout
Warhawk
Philosoma (ok not really)
Return Fire
Ridge Racer (ok not too much)

Most of these games are not look good but are fun for ME to be playing. I like Tekken 1 on PlayStation the best but everyone else will not and I like Tekken Tag on PS2 alot too. I am not serious fight gamer I am play computer for fun. Darkstalkers is game I like since I play in arcade in 1995 I like PS1 port. Return Fire is classic fun -no 3DO so PSX port will do for me. Single Trac was on point with steller hits Twisted Metal and Warhawk. These games make me Sony fan boy back in mid 90's (sorry Sega I still <3 U) Raiden Project offers Raiden II for home play and (with code) tate.

jajaja
04-25-2007, 05:17 PM
It looks like a pricedrop is closer than we think. The prices for blue diods (thats used in i.e Bluray) have dropped alot in price. Now they only cost 900 yen, which is about $7.59. I think the before price was like $80 - $100. Also the 65ns CELL cpu and removal of the Emotion Engine chip will cut production prices. So maybe we'll see a pricedrop around $100 for x-mas?

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/200704/07-037E/index.html

jajaja
04-28-2007, 07:27 AM
Heavenly Sword demo confirmed:

http://www.psu.com/node/10332

Ace Comics
04-29-2007, 12:52 PM
The PS3 looks great... haven't had the opportunity to play one yet... but it looks great. It's future is incredibly bright as well.

The *only* flaw I can see with it, is obviously the price. If I had the money, I'd have a PS3 for sure.
-Chris

Juganawt
04-30-2007, 07:11 PM
I've owned the PS3 since Japanese launch day.

It's been gathering dust since I completed VF5's quest mode about 3 days after getting the japanese version.

Only got the machine for VF5, then to find out 3 weeks later VF5 is coming to 360.

PS3 has no decent exclusive games aside from the launch game "Resistance: Fall of Man" and "Gundam Musou" which was released a few months ago, and it's looking like it's going to stay that way for the rest of the year.

Let's hope 2008's better, cos right now PS3 is a huge, expensive paperweight.

I couldn't recommend the PS3 to anyone right now when there's a far cheaper system out there with roughly the same amount of power an infinitely better software library.

PS3 NEEDS some exclusive games right now, or it'll die a miserable death. Here in the UK the machine has already dropped £50 in price due to lack of sales, and both the Wii and 360 are getting far more interest in the public eye, and that's because there's not a single game on PS3 right now that makes you think "WOW! I just have GOT to get this thing because there's this awesome game that's not on anything else.".

With no games to make the public sit up and take notice, all they see is the price tag as they walk past and pick up a 360 with Gears and a handful of other great games.

agbulls
04-30-2007, 07:22 PM
I've owned the PS3 since Japanese launch day.

It's been gathering dust since I completed VF5's quest mode about 3 days after getting the japanese version.

Only got the machine for VF5, then to find out 3 weeks later VF5 is coming to 360.

PS3 has no decent exclusive games aside from the launch game "Resistance: Fall of Man" and "Gundam Musou" which was released a few months ago, and it's looking like it's going to stay that way for the rest of the year.

Let's hope 2008's better, cos right now PS3 is a huge, expensive paperweight.

I couldn't recommend the PS3 to anyone right now when there's a far cheaper system out there with roughly the same amount of power an infinitely better software library.

PS3 NEEDS some exclusive games right now, or it'll die a miserable death. Here in the UK the machine has already dropped £50 in price due to lack of sales, and both the Wii and 360 are getting far more interest in the public eye, and that's because there's not a single game on PS3 right now that makes you think "WOW! I just have GOT to get this thing because there's this awesome game that's not on anything else.".

With no games to make the public sit up and take notice, all they see is the price tag as they walk past and pick up a 360 with Gears and a handful of other great games.

You did read the thread topic, right? :eek 2:

Juganawt
04-30-2007, 09:18 PM
You did read the thread topic, right? :eek 2:


Yes, but I couldn't think of anything positive about the system, but I have since thought about it.

PS3 is a pretty good Blu Ray player, and when you first take it out of the box, it sure is shiny. There. Covered. A Positive side :D

geneshifter
05-01-2007, 01:02 AM
Yes, but I couldn't think of anything positive about the system, but I have since thought about it.

PS3 is a pretty good Blu Ray player, and when you first take it out of the box, it sure is shiny. There. Covered. A Positive side :D

That's pretty weak sauce, man. I love my PS3. Motorstorm, Resistance and Oblivion are great fun on it. The thing is sure made a lot better than the 360 I had and sold last year. Good demos and stuff to download just like live. I can't wait for this summer and fall for all the great games coming out for it.

mailman187666
05-01-2007, 09:38 AM
My father just bought a 1080P DLP. So I told him I had PS3 and would bring it over to check out what his TV can do. I get there, hook it up with HDMI, start up the Ninja Gaiden Sigma demo........nuff said.

blissfulnoise
05-01-2007, 10:58 AM
Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain, Twisted Metal 2, Tekken 2, Wipeout XL, etc. aren't first generation PlayStation games. They were released in late 1996, so they're second generation.


Originally Posted by Rob2600
I know and I understand. I play a lot of old games, too. I'm just curious how many PlayStation games from 1995 people still currently play. I could see some of the third or fourth generation games, but many of the first-generation (1995-1996) ones are a mess.

Edit: Ah, nevermind, I get your original intent.

gepeto
06-14-2007, 09:31 PM
cricket cricket

I seen the new ps3 nyko intercooler on the shelves today looks pretty cool. Judging from the diagram it snaps on in the rear and maybe the side. Circuit City 19.99 msrp.

Lothars
06-15-2007, 12:05 AM
Yes, but I couldn't think of anything positive about the system, but I have since thought about it.

PS3 is a pretty good Blu Ray player, and when you first take it out of the box, it sure is shiny. There. Covered. A Positive side :D

Well I agree it needs better games but I still have alot of faith in the system especially with the games it has so far such as Resistance and Motorstorm

it especially needs Exclusives but honestly I still see at the end of the generation that the PS3 will be either beating or pretty much tie with the 360. even though I love my 360, It's just what I see happening especially since I honestly prefer the 360 over the PS3 into the foreseeable future.

sabre2922
06-30-2007, 06:26 PM
In a related article from: http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6210&Itemid=59
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The challenge Sony faces is that competition in the video game market is not sitting still and for this generation Microsoft and Nintendo have clearly turned up the heat. There is no winning by default in this market. The Nintendo Wii took advantage of every opportunity to try and build a starting base for long-term success. However, the good news for Sony is that the same can not be said for the other major competitor, Microsoft and the Xbox 360.

In terms of long-term strategy it is worth comparing Microsoft and Sony. Microsoft has shown an even greater willingness to lose money to try and build long-term market share. The Xbox 360 was the system that could benefit most from the PS3’s slow, late start. One of the biggest events (or non-event) over the past year is that the Xbox 360 did little to solidify its lead.

In terms of numbers, Microsoft met its goal of 10 million Xbox 360s shipped by the end of 2006. However, walking into a retail store in January 2007 and seeing piles of Xbox 360 inventory on the floor, it was immediately clear that many of those systems shipped did not end up in consumer hands. Gears of War was a solid hit, but it was the type of title that appealed mainly to the existing Xbox base waiting for Halo 3. In the first half of 2007, Microsoft introduced the Xbox 360 Elite which essentially raised the price of the system into a range that makes the PS3 start to look like more of a value by comparison.

In reality the new generation of game systems is just getting started. If all hardware manufacturers make their stated shipment goals over the next year, no system will have more than 40% market share when we revisit this issue next summer. Furthermore, by that time we will only be about 20% into the new generation.

The one thing we do continue to argue is that no system is likely to have the market share dominance of the first two PlayStation systems. The video game market is simply becoming diversified in multiple respects. Consumers are increasingly willing to buy multiple systems for multiple purposes. This means arguing who will be first or second is becoming increasingly irrelevant. Publishers and developers need to learn how to properly leverage content across multiple platforms. Unfortunately, this is something most video game companies have not historically excelled at.

Platform strategy comes down to both timing and individual products. For example, if you have a big first-person shooter (FPS) you definitely want to be on the Xbox 360, even if sales are currently lagging. The PS3 may not be flying off store shelves, but a major price cut and build up of the software library could change that a year from now. On the other hand, for many big ticket franchises the Wii may not be appropriate. The Wii is a great system, but it has its limits and a fairly unique appeal. This could present a problem for all the slow moving third-party publishers that are now scrambling to up their Wii output. By the time third-party developers start flooding the Wii market with product, the excitement may have cooled.
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MarioMania
06-30-2007, 11:54 PM
How fast can the PS3 load PS games...I know the PS2 as a PS Driver for speeding up the loading time's & Smoothing out Texturs

BHvrd
07-01-2007, 12:13 AM
How fast can the PS3 load PS games...I know the PS2 as a PS Driver for speeding up the loading time's & Smoothing out Texturs

VERY FAST!

It's great!

I swear Diablo was the most annoying game to load/save, it increased that game at least x3. I have been very impressed with the increased load times on ps1 and ps2 games, it's very impressive.

MarioMania
07-01-2007, 11:46 PM
No, it's not great..Street Fighter Collection still takes like 8 seconds between fights