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Gamingking
04-08-2007, 10:13 PM
Does anyone know if these work?
http://cgi.ebay.com/SNES-NES-FC-Twin-game-system-for-NES-SNES-games_W0QQitemZ180105014193QQihZ008QQcategoryZ6205 4QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
That seems rather cheap. So I was wondering to get one or not. Because my NES won't work worth a crap.
Soviet Conscript
04-08-2007, 10:25 PM
Does anyone know if these work?
http://cgi.ebay.com/SNES-NES-FC-Twin-game-system-for-NES-SNES-games_W0QQitemZ180105014193QQihZ008QQcategoryZ6205 4QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
That seems rather cheap. So I was wondering to get one or not. Because my NES won't work worth a crap.
will it work...yes, BUT
I know its not compatable with all NES games and probibly not with some SNES games as well. also your going to have some sound and color problems with some games
honestly, i'm not really a fan of clones, in my opinion your much better off just getting a new NES or SNES. get an official toploading NES if you don't like the toaster model
bangtango
04-08-2007, 10:25 PM
Hi King, welcome to the board.
Start reading here because there are already a couple of dozen posts on that product you are looking at.
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=99119
Like Soviet just said so well, that item you're looking at on Ebay will work with most of your NES games but a select few won't play at all. The picture and sound quality will not be as good as your original NES, either. However, you can "play" most of your NES and Super NES games on the FC Twin.
8-bitNesMan
04-08-2007, 10:31 PM
Did you look at the shipping rate? Pretty clever on their part to get people interested, but that bumps it up to right about the going rate. You'd be better off to buy a new 72-pin connector from Ebay and replace the one in the NES you already got. Hope that helps!
cyberfluxor
04-08-2007, 10:34 PM
Yes, be sure to look around. I really suggest getting the official V.2 toploader of the NES. Reasons:
1) Work 100% with all games (unless I screwed up somewhere)
2) They hold their value (if not defective)
3) Best quality since it's the hardware the games are built for!
They do cost more money but just remember #2. ;)
Oh, and didn't see you have a problematic system. 8-bitNesMan has the right idea and it's the route most go.
MegaDrive20XX
04-08-2007, 10:42 PM
$45 for shipping within the USA lol hiliarious!
Gamingking
04-08-2007, 11:01 PM
Hi King, welcome to the board.
Start reading here because there are already a couple of dozen posts on that product you are looking at.
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=99119
Like Soviet just said so well, that item you're looking at on Ebay will work with most of your NES games but a select few won't play at all. The picture and sound quality will not be as good as your original NES, either. However, you can "play" most of your NES and Super NES games on the FC Twin.
Thank's I have been looking for a good type of video game board to join. I have a pretty well colllection. Which I will take pics of it soon. I noticed the shipping rate a little after. That is high. My NES just doesn't work. I have TWO and when I clean it and my games it takes 30 minutes to work then it quits. So I was wanting a system to play Nes on that works. If anyone has pics of what yall are refering to please share.
XxHennersXx
04-08-2007, 11:09 PM
Thank's I have been looking for a good type of video game board to join. I have a pretty well colllection. Which I will take pics of it soon. I noticed the shipping rate a little after. That is high. My NES just doesn't work. I have TWO and when I clean it and my games it takes 30 minutes to work then it quits. So I was wanting a system to play Nes on that works. If anyone has pics of what yall are refering to please share.
it was already recommended you replace the "72 pin connector" on your NES. That is the part that goes bad, it will then work like it's 1985 again. :)
Soviet Conscript
04-08-2007, 11:11 PM
I was wanting a system to play Nes on that works. If anyone has pics of what yall are refering to please share.
http://forums.nintendo.com/nintendo/board/message?board.id=legacy&message.id=123229
it was a revision of the box style NES that nintendo put out late in the NES lifespan. it loads from the top so theres no connection problems the old model had. its an official system from nintendo to so its fully compatable with all nes games and i assume all accessories. only thing is its only got a RF connection.
you can get one modded for RCA connection to a TV though. acually theres a modded toploader for sale in the buy/sale forum right now. i was pondering getting it but i prefer the toaster style NES.
if you ment the pin connector
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-PREMIUM-72-PIN-CONNECTOR-FOR-NES-NINTENDO-SYSTEM_W0QQitemZ200098041303QQihZ010QQcategoryZ410 46QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Gamingking
04-08-2007, 11:17 PM
Ok thank's! I might do the NES Top loader. Where is the buy/sell forum on here?
Soviet Conscript
04-08-2007, 11:27 PM
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=99107
i did forget to mention one thing about a toploader...there reletivly expensive
and for a modded one..even more
if you decide to buy FABombjoy's though i can vouche for him. i bought some expensive items off him and it went very smoothly. acually i'm buying two modded consoles off him right now.
although i think there may be a rule that you have to be a member for a certain number of days before you can access the buy/sell forum....
Gamingking
04-08-2007, 11:40 PM
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=99107
i did forget to mention one thing about a toploader...there reletivly expensive
and for a modded one..even more
if you decide to buy FABombjoy's though i can vouche for him. i bought some expensive items off him and it went very smoothly. acually i'm buying two modded consoles off him right now.
although i think there may be a rule that you have to be a member for a certain number of days before you can access the buy/sell forum....
I don't have permission. I'll wait it out a few days. How much is he looking to get for it?
Soviet Conscript
04-08-2007, 11:49 PM
$100, which isn't bad. if you want to try and go for a cheaper one try ebay but your gonna be stuck with an inferior RF connection. its still gonna be in the $60-$80 range without the mod, give or take. but like cyberfluxor said "they hold their value"
if its a bit to expensive you can get the pin replacment for your regular NES. if you don't mind opening it up and replaceing it. that will only run you about $10 and its not hard to do. if you do get the toploader though you won't have anymore connection problems.
bangtango
04-08-2007, 11:50 PM
I don't have permission. I'll wait it out a few days. How much is he looking to get for it?
Prices on those top-loading systems vary. Dig around the thrift stores or yard sales in your area for awhile and you may get lucky and find one for $5-10. Otherwise they would be $50 and up if you are buying them online. I haven't been in the market for one recently so I don't know what the ceiling on the NES top loader currently is but it shouldn't be much more than that FC Twin system you're looking at on Ebay.
EDIT: Yeah, $60-80 sounds about right unless it is modded which improves the picture quality, for starters. Honestly, I've seen one or two sell online for around $35-40 in the past year but those were not modded and came without hookups or controllers, just the system by itself.
All of the points cyberfluxor brought up are accurate. The only major flaw is that the picture quality drops slightly (with the RF cord) but it isn't a major issue for everybody. At least not for me, Considering the games work perfectly, assuming you keep them clean, it is a perfectly acceptable trade off.
Just in case you didn't know, the top loading NES uses the same hookups as your "regular" NES. It does have its own controllers, though. They are shaped a little differently. However, "regular" NES controllers work just fine on a top loading system. So you don't NEED those new controllers to play your games, they are just good to have if you are also a collector and want your system and accessories to "match." The newer NES ones used with the top loader are called the "dogbone" controllers in case you start seeing that term here on the boards.
DefaultGen
04-09-2007, 02:35 AM
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MarioMania
04-09-2007, 02:43 AM
If you see one at The thrift Shops or Goodwill like $10 get it
Gillian Seed
04-09-2007, 04:17 AM
Yeah they fully rape you on the shipping.
cyberfluxor
04-09-2007, 10:00 AM
If you see one at The thrift Shops or Goodwill like $10 get it
Yeah, that never happens to me. It's usually a Saturn that I find for $3, N64's and PSX $8-15. A friend of mine did find a toaster for $5 then paid $4 for wires and 2 controllers, then turned around and sold it but the pins were messed up and didn't make much profit due to the new connectors and all. He already owned an NES so the $15 profit he made was satisfying and only took 20 minutes between purchasing and reselling it.
bangtango
04-09-2007, 10:53 AM
Yeah, that never happens to me. It's usually a Saturn that I find for $3, N64's and PSX $8-15. A friend of mine did find a toaster for $5 then paid $4 for wires and 2 controllers, then turned around and sold it but the pins were messed up and didn't make much profit due to the new connectors and all. He already owned an NES so the $15 profit he made was satisfying and only took 20 minutes between purchasing and reselling it.
The scenario MarioMania described actually happened to me a couple months ago. Top-loading NES and the usual hookups for a total of around $7-8 in Salvation Army. I sold it to my brother for the same amount I paid for it, though, because I'm not into ripping off family and he had a beat up toaster model which wouldn't play much of anything. If he'd already had one, I would have probably sold it on here for a little less than market value and still made a profit.
Gamingking
04-09-2007, 07:33 PM
What does the Pin Connector do? Does it make it work like brand new? Or does it still mess up?
Gamingking
04-09-2007, 08:31 PM
Anyone know? I'm thinking of ordering it from Ebay ina minute. I just want to make sure it works. ?
FABombjoy
04-09-2007, 09:35 PM
eBay pin connectors have a bad reputation around here. There have been a few threads about it in the Tech forum. They hold carts with a death grip & aren't much of an improvement (in my experience, at least).
ubersaurus
04-09-2007, 09:50 PM
I bought a new pin connector from an online store. It does hold the cart really tightly, but it hasn't given me any problems booting up, so I'm satisfied.
Gamingking
04-09-2007, 09:51 PM
I guess i'll buy one and see.
If anyone else has had any problems/or liked them please share your thoughts on them.
8-bitNesMan
04-09-2007, 10:20 PM
I'm still using my original connector from 1988, but it's finicky and I have to use some tricks to get it to work. For this reason I mostly play NES games on the above mentioned official Nintendo top loader. FABombjoy and Ubersaurus are exactly right about the death grip a new connector will put on carts. I think that would get better with time as it would get more "broken in". But to start with it's about the cheapest fix you can do. Inside your cartridge are the contacts of the chip that the game is stored on. Those connect to the 72-pin connector inside the system, hence the name. After years of use and dust, dirt, etc. the factory connector doesn't work so well. Actually this was a design flaw on the toasters as most people who owned one can attest. That's why so many people prefer the top loader. WAY better performance... But if you don't want to drop that much cash, go the new connector route. We have a lot of tech-savvy gamers here who would be happy to give some good advice on how to open your case and replace it. Let us know how it turns out.
XxHennersXx
04-10-2007, 02:47 AM
I'm still using my original connector from 1988, but it's finicky and I have to use some tricks to get it to work. For this reason I mostly play NES games on the above mentioned official Nintendo top loader. FABombjoy and Ubersaurus are exactly right about the death grip a new connector will put on carts. I think that would get better with time as it would get more "broken in". But to start with it's about the cheapest fix you can do. Inside your cartridge are the contacts of the chip that the game is stored on. Those connect to the 72-pin connector inside the system, hence the name. After years of use and dust, dirt, etc. the factory connector doesn't work so well. Actually this was a design flaw on the toasters as most people who owned one can attest. That's why so many people prefer the top loader. WAY better performance... But if you don't want to drop that much cash, go the new connector route. We have a lot of tech-savvy gamers here who would be happy to give some good advice on how to open your case and replace it. Let us know how it turns out.
my connector from Nintendo wasn't even a tight fit. It's just those third party connectors.
Gamingking
04-15-2007, 02:07 PM
I've came to a conclusion that a Top Loader would be the best. Since it's a official Nintendo release. I just need to find one. There are a few on Ebay and I can't access the board here to get info from the guy selling his.
bangtango
04-15-2007, 02:18 PM
I've came to a conclusion that a Top Loader would be the best. Since it's a official Nintendo release. I just need to find one. There are a few on Ebay and I can't access the board here to get info from the guy selling his.
You have to be a member here for 10 days to do so. Based on your original post, you'll be able to start getting in there on the 18th, which is Wednesday. That's just a little thing to prevent people from spamming or scamming that board is all.
Starwander
04-15-2007, 02:22 PM
The 72-bit pin connectors that I have actually do not have a "death grip" on the cartridges. They actually hold them quite loosely, which makes it a lot easier to get games out and in. I would recommend these instead, if you are looking for convenience. Also those FC twin systems on Ebay are way over priced they sell for $15.00 brand new wholesale.
Gamingking
04-15-2007, 07:33 PM
Well I will talk to the guy once i'm allowed on that board.
I think the NES Top Loader would work better then a 72 pin connector. It's a OFFICIAL Nintendo Release, and i've heard alot of good things about it.
8-bitNesMan
04-15-2007, 07:41 PM
Well I will talk to the guy once i'm allowed on that board.
I think the NES Top Loader would work better then a 72 pin connector. It's a OFFICIAL Nintendo Release, and i've heard alot of good things about it.
I guarantee you it will work better, but you'll pay a lot more for it. But as some posters have already mentioned, you will have a great piece of reliable hardware that will hold its value. Best of luck finding one at a good price! One more piece of advice I'll impart is to wait and try to find one here on the buy/sell forum... It still won't be cheap, but it will definitely be better than EvilBay.
XxHennersXx
04-15-2007, 11:19 PM
Well I will talk to the guy once i'm allowed on that board.
I think the NES Top Loader would work better then a 72 pin connector. It's a OFFICIAL Nintendo Release, and i've heard alot of good things about it.
You can get official brand new 72 pins...I got one.
The original NES has a better picture quality and works with a game genie. the top loader doesn't without an adaptor, so take your pick.
8-bitNesMan
04-15-2007, 11:25 PM
The original NES has a better picture quality
I'm curious as to why... I've never done a side-by-side comparison, but I just assumed it would be the other way around. What's different about the toaster that would give it a better picture?
Soviet Conscript
04-16-2007, 12:37 AM
I'm curious as to why... I've never done a side-by-side comparison, but I just assumed it would be the other way around. What's different about the toaster that would give it a better picture?
the origional toaster model has composite A/V connection as well as RF. the A/V was taken out of the toploader model to cut costs so its only RF.
8-bitNesMan
04-16-2007, 12:52 AM
Thanks... I guess I went brain dead from too much Xbox Live this weekend. I totally forgot they took the A/V out of the top loader.
XxHennersXx
04-16-2007, 02:41 AM
Thanks... I guess I went brain dead from too much Xbox Live this weekend. I totally forgot they took the A/V out of the top loader.
Not to mention the RF modulator in the Top Loader is of cheaper quality. Since it was the end of the nes lifespan they used cheaper parts to maximize profit. You get weird vertical lines every few lines. So not only are you stuck with RF, but you are stuck with crappier RF.
Gamingking
04-18-2007, 05:41 PM
Does anyone know why I can't access the trade/board??