Xbox 360 *ELITE* in some walmart and Kmart

[RyanMurf]

Some walmarts and Kmarts are selling elites. I just picked mine up its great. Go check it out!

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Don't get your hopes up tho, we have some at my store and we're unable to sell them for some reason. A "This item cannot be sold!" prompt comes up when we try to ring them up, so we have to tell people we have none when they ask.

[godsey1]

What's the price that these are going to sale for? I want one just to play Dead Rising on.

[Neo Rasa]

What's the price that these are going to sale for? I want one just to play Dead Rising on.

The current MSRP is $479.99.

[Poofta!]

Don't get your hopes up tho, we have some at my store and we're unable to sell them for some reason. A "This item cannot be sold!" prompt comes up when we try to ring them up, so we have to tell people we have none when they ask.

he said he already picked his up...

[Jestr]

Forgive my ignorance, but what's in the Elite package that makes it elite?

[Poofta!]

google is your friend.

but basically its a black 360 with HDMI out and 60gb hard drive.

[RyanMurf]

correction it is a 120 GB HDD not 60. Its black. HDMI. 120GB HDD. 65NM chips. Runs much cooler. In other words no more defects!!

[Neo Rasa]

he said he already picked his up...

Much like the DS Lite and other hardware upgrades, it has a street date (1/29 in this case) but many stores such as Wal-Mart and Target that do not specialize in electronics have employees that start selling the item immediately.

[MegaDrive20XX]

Yeah most stores are instructed not to sell them until April 29th. I think a local Best Buy here has 2 of them.

[GM80]

correction it is a 120 GB HDD not 60. Its black. HDMI. 120GB HDD. 65NM chips. Runs much cooler. In other words no more defects!!

I think it's been confirmed multiple times that these Elite systems do not have a new 65nm architecture. The processor will produce the same amount of heat (and the fan / drive the same amount of noise) as any other current Xbox 360. There may be some heat reductions due to improvements in power efficiency around the motherboard, but 65nm is still a ways down the line and will be rolled out in both versions of the 360, not just the Elite.

[RyanMurf]

I think it's been confirmed multiple times that these Elite systems do not have a new 65nm architecture. Internally they are the same, with the exception of the paths for the HDMI output, and will produce the same amount of heat and noise as any other current Xbox 360. 65nm is still a ways down the line and will be rolled out in both versions of the 360, not just the Elite.

Hey all i said was that the ELITE had the chips I never said other boxes didn't. Thanks for the input though always appreciated!

[diskoboy]

GM80 is right - they did make a few fixes to the mobo. The even epoxied the chips so they won't come loose.

But still no 65nm chips, yet. Still have no idea what the holdup is...

[RyanMurf]

I have had my elite running for a while now and i must say it does run much better than the original premium. It runs with barely any heat being pumped out of it. The new box Def. has had essential modifications done. With the all new epoxy and different type of solder I think the 3 red lights are a thing of the past on a count of thats what caused them in the first place.

[Scrimble]

The local Walmart already put out their black wireless controllers and black play and charge kits. I guess they have the systems in the back but can't put them out.

[RyanMurf]

For those who want to know much about the internals of the new ELITE look herehttp://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=6992 everything is answered there. Including the chips and obvious mother board changes.

[diskoboy]

I'm about to hit up Best Buy. If they have the black controllers out, I'm buying one (I won't have money for the Eliete until Friday... Damn bills! ;) )

I'm really over all these glossy white systems and controllers. They get dirty too quickly.

[hezeuschrist]

Dirty controllers I get... dirty systems? What're you doing to them?!

[MegaDrive20XX]

I just got the 120GB HD today, it's pretty solid. Actually comes with free themes, demos (Lego Star Wars, Lost Planet), gamer pictures, and videos (Forza 2, Halo 3) for free. Including "Hexdic HD" full game for XLA for free. (About 15GB of stuff)

Comes with the transfer cable and the DVD Disc to launch the transfer program.

Only thing that was odd, is it takes roughly between 18 to 36 minutes to transfer the data from the 20GB to the 120GB...lucky for me, it just took 18 minutes since I was only at 9GB left of freespace.

Nice part, is once it's done with the transfer, it completely re-formats the 20GB for you to put up or sell it :)

[diskoboy]

Dirty controllers I get... dirty systems? What're you doing to them?!

I just get dirty controllers too. You should see my 360's triggers. :bleh:

My 360 is kinda scuffed from dropping a sharpie on it with the top off.

[diskoboy]

I just got the 120GB HD today, it's pretty solid. Actually comes with free themes, demos (Lego Star Wars, Lost Planet), gamer pictures, and videos (Forza 2, Halo 3) for free. Including "Hexdic HD" full game for XLA for free. (About 15GB of stuff)

Comes with the transfer cable and the DVD Disc to launch the transfer program.

Only thing that was odd, is it takes roughly between 18 to 36 minutes to transfer the data from the 20GB to the 120GB...lucky for me, it just took 18 minutes since I was only at 9GB left of freespace.

Nice part, is once it's done with the transfer, it completely re-formats the 20GB for you to put up or sell it :)


So no problems with XBLA games, gamertags, or demo's? I'm getting mine Friday. I still think I'm gonna keep my current one.

[MegaDrive20XX]

None what so ever, runs pretty smooth, I played CastleVania SOTN for about 10 minutes, loaded a game of Gears of War and Marvel Ultimate Alliance. Even saved a few times just to make sure. Gamertag's fully intact

[heybtbm]

How do you transfer data from one hard drive to another? This has never been clarified...just rumors of some "transfer cable". It's been confirmed that the Elite does not come with this magic cable...so how is it done? Still curious.

[GM80]

None what so ever, runs pretty smooth, I played CastleVania SOTN for about 10 minutes, loaded a game of Gears of War and Marvel Ultimate Alliance. Even saved a few times just to make sure. Gamertag's fully intact

So what's the transfer hardware like? Does it come with a little USB cradle for your second drive, or a USB-SATA cable, or what? Wonder if it will be hackable to use for accessing the 360 drive from a PC like the Datel XSATA device.

[MegaDrive20XX]

Lemme take a pic of this cable and how it's done

1st, attach this USB to the back of the system, not the front

2nd, attach the new 120GB to the end of the USB cable's adapter

3rd, turn on the 360 and place in the disc

4th follow the directions at the command prompt, also make sure the new HD drive is sitting safely while you wait for it to finish transferring

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/Akumajo22/100_0604.jpg

[RyanMurf]

thats pretty cool. But if you do by an elite like I did you dont need all of that stuff. all you gotta do is recover your GT on your new HDD and re download everything all over again because xbox live saves what games and such you download of the marketplace so you can re download it if ever deleted by accident. So if you buy an elite don't by this data transfer cable. Its a waist just re download it. Still very cool that it comes with a new hdd

[Eteric Rice]

Gah, I wish I could afford one. I only have $100 at the moment, with no job. Gaaah. :grrr:

[Oobgarm]

thats pretty cool. But if you do by an elite like I did you dont need all of that stuff.

If you want to keep your saves for games you've played, you DO need all that stuff. It seems to be quicker with the cable, anyway.

I'm sure it's a non-issue now, but I've seen all of the black accessories out at Best Buy, including the new controller+play&charge bundle.

[johno590]

I've been thinking about getting the new HD but I dunno if it's worth 180 dollars...

[Pente]

correction it is a 120 GB HDD not 60. Its black. HDMI. 120GB HDD. 65NM chips. Runs much cooler. In other words no more defects!!

You didn't address the real question though that is the concern of many. i.e. Is it flashable? :p

[Slate]

Does the faceplate come off?

[jajaja]

correction it is a 120 GB HDD not 60. Its black. HDMI. 120GB HDD. 65NM chips. Runs much cooler. In other words no more defects!!

Is this confirmed? The 65ns chip that is. What i've heard the hardware inside is exactly the same as the old 360s.

I also read that some guy got the ring of death only 4 days after purchace of the elite model. True or not, i dont know. Read for yourself here:

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=16098

Might be true, but hopefully the elite model got much less problems :)

[RyanMurf]

Is this confirmed? The 65ns chip that is. What i've heard the hardware inside is exactly the same as the old 360s.

I also read that some guy got the ring of death only 4 days after purchace of the elite model. True or not, i dont know. Read for yourself here:

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=16098

Might be true, but hopefully the elite model got much less problems :)

There is literally like 15 things that the 3 red li ghts means. its a very general term called "hardware failure" this can be many things other than the processors or over heating. Most likely a rumor. mine has ran for 48 hours straight just downloading stuff with no problems. I think were going to be in the clear with the elite!!

[8-bitNesMan]

You did downloads for 2 straight days? What were you downloading, the full Library of Congress?

[RyanMurf]

You did downloads for 2 straight days? What were you downloading, the full Library of Congress?
Um I dont know if that was supposed to be funny?! BUT No its called DSL, wireless(redownloading all xbox live arcade games FYI.)

[8-bitNesMan]

No I was simply asking a question. With a high speed connection that seems like a long time to be downloading. No need to get your panties in a twist:D

[hezeuschrist]

There is literally like 15 things that the 3 red li ghts means. its a very general term called "hardware failure" this can be many things other than the processors or over heating. Most likely a rumor. mine has ran for 48 hours straight just downloading stuff with no problems. I think were going to be in the clear with the elite!!

I've had my 360 since launch and I regularly leave it on for days at a time (falling asleep while watching movies). I've never had one issue with it.

It's way too early to say the elite has fixed anything other than the lack of HDMI and racial profiling.

And no, the Elite does NOT have the 65nm core. It takes about a quarter second to see the die size is the same as it was before, thus no smaller process.

[Insaneclown]

I have had my elite running for a while now and i must say it does run much better than the original premium. It runs with barely any heat being pumped out of it. The new box Def. has had essential modifications done. With the all new epoxy and different type of solder I think the 3 red lights are a thing of the past on a count of thats what caused them in the first place.

Post pictures of your Elite in action...hehe! Anyway...I'm going to see if any are available tomorrow. I thought the official release date was April 26th.

Congrats on getting your system one week early. I'm gonna check out wally world tomorrow. I'm going to check out my work as well to see if we have any yet.

[Gamingking]

Recent Ebay sell was 5,100 which is crazy.

[GM80]

I picked up the new 120GB drive today. As mentioned by others, the transfer process was exceptionally well done. Yes, it even moves locked saves (thank you Team Ninja).

In case you're wondering, there's no preloaded content on the new drive that's worth saving. I hooked it up first, ready to save anything interesting to a Memory Unit. No unique Themes or Gamer Pictures, as far as I could tell, and the rest was demos and advertisements.

Now I'll just wait for someone to confirm that the included USB-to-HD cable works with some of the PC transfer software that's available ;)

[segagamer4life]

Lemme take a pic of this cable and how it's done

1st, attach this USB to the back of the system, not the front

2nd, attach the new 120GB to the end of the USB cable's adapter

3rd, turn on the 360 and place in the disc

4th follow the directions at the command prompt, also make sure the new HD drive is sitting safely while you wait for it to finish transferring

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/Akumajo22/100_0604.jpg


ok, sorry to be dumb, but does this cable come with the ELITE system, or just the 120 GIG drive?

[RyanMurf]

It does not come with the ELITE simply recover your gamer tag on your new HDD and re download everything free of charge.

[segagamer4life]

It does not come with the ELITE simply recover your gamer tag on your new HDD and re download everything free of charge.

thats true, but what to do about the game saves? I know there are 3rd party things out there, but come on M$, could have included that for those who currently own a system... oh well..

[RyanMurf]

You can always use a memory card if u have one handy

[Joker T]

You can always use a memory card if u have one handy

The memory card doesn't allow the transfer of "Locked' games unfortunately.

I'm not sure which ones are and aren't but it would suck to have that problem.

[segagamer4life]

The memory card doesn't allow the transfer of "Locked' games unfortunately.

I'm not sure which ones are and aren't but it would suck to have that problem.


yeah thats what I figured, but maybe a memory card won't hurt... good thinking.

[PS2Hawk]

correction it is a 120 GB HDD not 60. Its black. HDMI. 120GB HDD. 65NM chips. Runs much cooler. In other words no more defects!!


bullshit... there is no 65 nm cpu and someone @ IGN already has red lights on the black 360 and it doesnot runs cooler

[geneshifter]

bullshit... there is no 65 nm cpu and someone @ IGN already has red lights on the black 360 and it doesnot runs cooler

Yup, that's what I was afraid would happen, lol. I just got a PS3 so I can play a lot of these newest games and I'll get a black 360 eventually (after they go to 65nm on the processors and overhaul the electronics). I want to play Gears very badly but not enough to deal with MS again :(

[RyanMurf]

bullshit... there is no 65 nm cpu and someone @ IGN already has red lights on the black 360 and it doesnot runs cooler

Okay "ps2Hawk" no need to piss ur pants and curse so calm down. Rule number one you shouldnt talk about something if you dont own it!! rule number 2. How can you tell me that it doesnt run cooler when i have the darn thing!! last and finaly rule number 3. Dont trust forums when it comes to defects, people are always out there to make a system look bad just because they cant afford! and or have a rival system. I just say facts that I have heard im no MS Rep. so dont take it like MS just lied to you CALM DOWN! P.S. here is where they talk about it running cooler and the possible 65NM chips. http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=6992

[Lothars]

I just say facts that I have heard

See that's the things it's Rumors not facts,

It doesn't have the Cooler chips, It has the regular old 360 chips in it I bet,

but until there's confirmed proof, it's rumor,

[RyanMurf]

See that's the things it's Rumors not facts,

It doesn't have the Cooler chips, It has the regular old 360 chips in it I bet,

but until there's confirmed proof, it's rumor,

Your 100% percent entitle to you opinion.

[Vinnysdad]

You must really love that Black 360 because you seem to be defending it left and right. Does it make you feel "Elite" or do you work for MS?

[RyanMurf]

You must really love that Black 360 because you seem to be defending it left and right. Does it make you feel "Elite" or do you work for MS?

No not really i mean don't get me wrong I love Microsoft and i love the machines they make but i just hate it when a Sony-Nintendo fanboy comes around and tries to put it down just ticks me of. But no it does not make me feel *ELITE*

[diskoboy]

Gotta stand by Ryan on this... Just because 1 person got the red rings doesn't mean it's still gonna be plentiful. Some consoles are gonna be damaged during shipment and there could be other factors.

I still think it's too early for everyone to say: "Well, the elietes are just as unreliable as the others"

And not to mention the guy at IGN could be lying through his teeth. IGN is full of morons, after all.

[MegaDrive20XX]

And not to mention the guy at IGN could be lying through his teeth. IGN is full of morons, after all.

Quote of the day.

[PS2Hawk]

Okay "ps2Hawk" no need to piss ur pants and curse so calm down. Rule number one you shouldnt talk about something if you dont own it!! rule number 2. How can you tell me that it doesnt run cooler when i have the darn thing!! last and finaly rule number 3. Dont trust forums when it comes to defects, people are always out there to make a system look bad just because they cant afford! and or have a rival system. I just say facts that I have heard im no MS Rep. so dont take it like MS just lied to you CALM DOWN! P.S. here is where they talk about it running cooler and the possible 65NM chips. http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=6992

I am on my 4th 360 console and I would like a more reliable solution as you would. and "Moeeed" is my gamertag on Xbox Live and PSN. Also as far as owning an Elite I already own a PS3 since Nov 17.. no problems here.. I bought 3 year warrantly plan as soon as I got the last replacement console from MS back in October. When there is a confirmation that MS has throughly revised the 360 hardware and when the CPU is updated I will get a black 360!!!

[Vinnysdad]

No not really i mean don't get me wrong I love Microsoft and i love the machines they make but i just hate it when a Sony-Nintendo fanboy comes around and tries to put it down just ticks me of. But no it does not make me feel *ELITE*


I understand what your talking about. The "Elite" comment was just me messing with you. Nothing serious.

[Candycab]

Question for you Elite owners.

Does it have the abilty to output sound independent of the HDMI cable while using HDMI ? So far the PS3 cant as far as I know and I was wondering if MS made this mistake aswell. I hope not as it would make using it a waste of time for us projector owners.

[GM80]

Does it have the abilty to output sound independent of the HDMI cable while using HDMI ?

The Elite includes a dongle that connects to the normal A/V output port to give you both optical audio and stereo analog audio outputs alongside HDMI.

[Oobgarm]

The Elite includes a dongle that connects to the normal A/V output port to give you both optical audio and stereo analog audio outputs alongside HDMI.

http://www.joystiq.com/gallery/xbox-360-elite-hands-on/225430/

[Candycab]

http://www.joystiq.com/gallery/xbox-360-elite-hands-on/225430/

Dongle or not at least there is an optical.

Thanks for the info guys ;)

[RyanMurf]

I Also have a ps3 and it DOES allow you to have an independent audio source. If you use the old ps2 AV cable u can select audio to run through that. And xbox 360 has an adapter for independent audio sources.