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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz From Phantasy Star 2 View Post
    Today my friend said old games have bad graphics.
    Your friend is correct. Old games have 320x240 resolution... which is only HALF the maximum NTSC or PAL tvs can support. Even newer games on the PS1 or N64 suffer from "blockiness" due to a lack of polygons.

    But that's not why we play games, is it?

    We play games *despite their ugliness* because they are hella fun! (To borrow a phrase from Cartman.) You don't need a bazillion colors and 10 million pixels to enjoy a game like Ms. Pac-Man or Super Mario Bros.

    Tell them that.




    BTW the same applies to old movies. Charlie Chaplin's movies may look "blurry" and "choppy" from inadequate framerate, but he's still darn funny! Just because a classic movie like Casablanca is in black-n-white is not going to stop me from watching it.

    Only a fool would refuse to watch Casablanca or play Super Mario Bros.





    [edit] [I'm going back to college in 2008 (or 9). It will be most-amusing watching the reactions of 18-22-yr-old college kids as I sit down & play my 8-bit Atari or 16-bit Super Nintendo. I can already predict it: "What are you playing that pixelated crap for?" haha.]
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    Chaz has left the building.

    I hope you don't expect a reply.

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    I looked, but I can't find it...why'd he get banned?

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    That is the $64,000 question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz From Phantasy Star 2 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by boatofcar View Post
    I looked, but I can't find it...why'd he get banned?
    I'm willing to suspend disbelief that RugalSin is a real person, but Chaz? No way. It's gotta be a gimmick account.
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    Chris:
    This is a criticial and always much needed and debated topic for the retro and classic gaming communities. There are elements that keep us all attracted to what we are even after beatting it. It's the lore to buy and play more of these similar games, some going a step father and collecting. The bottom line is it's all about enjoyment in what you have and that's what keeps these communities together and discussing.

    IMO, all games that come with newly launched systems need something more than trying to push that next generation of graphics, rather new generations of proccessing power and what it can accomplish to make game elements better.

    There are games I don't own because the designers made some god awful graphics that just aren't playable. On the otherside there are games I did buy because they looked great but dear god, who tested the game mechanics?! It's just a matter of buying, playing and experiencing what truely is a masterpiece and finding that perfect game for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jajaja View Post
    How old is your friend? If hes young (like 15 years old or so) i can understand that he think old gfx sux.
    I hate that, I guess you would call it a stereotype, of how young gamers only care about graphics. I am 16, and I don't care about graphics. I play my NES and Super NES, and love them! Best systems ever!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryborg View Post
    I'm willing to suspend disbelief that RugalSin is a real person, but Chaz? No way. It's gotta be a gimmick account.

    I thought Chaz was too stupid to be real and Rugalsizzler I hope is fake too because he just spouts off idiotic bull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veronica_marsfan View Post
    Tell them that.
    Chaz, just like Veronica Mars, has been canceled. Please make a note of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veronica_marsfan View Post
    Your friend is correct. Old games have 320x240 resolution... which is only HALF the maximum NTSC or PAL tvs can support. Even newer games on the PS1 or N64 suffer from "blockiness" due to a lack of polygons.
    Yes, but a PS3 only has 1920x1080 resolution, and a limited amount of polygons. Even though its graphics may be interpreted as more photorealistic than a NES or a PSX, the graphics are still as stiff and unreal as any preceding game system. Despite all its power, the PS3 still doesn't have games which could fool anyone that you're looking at a movie.

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    Which is why I ALSO said the following:
    Quote Originally Posted by veronica_marsfan View Post

    We play games *despite their ugliness* because they are hella fun! (To borrow a phrase from Cartman.) You don't need a bazillion colors and 10 million pixels to enjoy a game like Ms. Pac-Man or Super Mario Bros.

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    I've played games with good graphics (Kingdom Hearts 2), bad graphics (Final Fantasy VII), and no graphics (Text adventures. Yet to play Zork, though). Graphics are nothing to me as long as the game is still fun.

    Though my sister's boyfreind is trying to claim PSX is more powerful then N64 by comparing it's real-time graphics to FF7's pre-rendered cut-scenes.

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    This reminds me of an experience I had recently. My cousin was over at my house, and he saw me playing Warcraft II. He said "those graphics are bad."

    Then he watched me play Ducktales on the NES and didn't say anything. I giggled ten minutes in, and he was like, "What?" And I said, "Dude... you think Warcraft II has bad graphics but you haven't said anything about Ducktales."

    But he's no graphics freak. When he was ten I got him addicted to Bubble Bobble and Archon. Mind you, we both had N64s at the time. Today he's sixteen and enjoys a lot of the oldschool stuff I expose him to.

    I never really understood the graphics push, honestly. Honestly I think bad graphics make a game more immersive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RugalSizzler View Post
    First off 3d has been around since I was around. Like near the end of 1970's 3d was around. in 1984 at least they had 3d in the movies like we have 3d but even sharper then the PS4.
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    That is like the most ignorant statement. It's called progress with technology. If they were ale to make the graphics that great back then dont you think it would have happened?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz From Phantasy Star 2 View Post
    Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...........
    don't get too upset its true. The old games had crap graphics but.......
    Back then a game had to stand on one thing to be great, it had to be fun.

    Today you can dress up a turd of a game in good graphics.

    I still have not seen a decent version of Archon on a new system, why?
    I remember they made one for the 486PC and they just ruined the game. It was so slow during fight scenes that it was not Archon it was slowon. The game failed not because it was outdated but because playability issues.

    All the old games were very playable, something you can't say about todays games. UT3 Sloooooooooow.

    And where is an updated version of MULE?????? I mean 4 player same room each with his own joystick. The n64 could do it well so could the Wii.

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    I f someone ever dares to tell me Toaplan shmups's graphics look like sh*t, I'd just remove his eyeballs using a spoon.

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