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    It's about time they rolled this one out.

    http://www.us.playstation.com/News/PressReleases/400

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    Looking forward to seeing how effective their scaling technique is for PS1/PS2 games. I wonder if they just do a simple upscaling job or if they actually render the output at 1080p.

    Guess we'll find out soon enough.

    What I'm really looking forward to is being able to transfer saves FROM the PS3, now. Thank. Fucking. God.

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    Anybody tried out the DVD upscsaling? How is it?

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    The update JUST went live


    Updating now. Can't wait to see how the PS2/PS1 upscaling works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roushimsx View Post
    The update JUST went live


    Updating now. Can't wait to see how the PS2/PS1 upscaling works.
    Yup, downloading now. Hope this works, lol. Booooooooommmmmm!

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    d/l right now. im actually suprised at how fast the its going...
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    WOW. Just.

    WOW


    Play GOW 2 with the "full screen" option ON. Do NOT use progressive scan (obviously). Holy shit!!! Consider this new feature the Jaggy Eliminator.
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    Even more impressive:

    Pop in Shadow of the Colossus, enable widescreen but do NOT enable progressive. Thank me later.

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    I tried the full screen option in the PS3 menu with odin sphere and the screen is off center. Have to play letterboxed, but it is soooo sexy- very crisp in 1080i.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roushimsx View Post
    Even more impressive:

    Pop in Shadow of the Colossus, enable widescreen but do NOT enable progressive. Thank me later.
    I'd rather thank you now.
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    holy god...just poped in shadow of the colossus with shader, full screen, and 16x9 on and it looks AMAZING! i remember playing this game on an hdtv not long ago with composite cables and it looked so terrible it made me regret ever upgrading to an hdtv, but now on an hdtv with components and these new features...the game looks amazing! it really does look like a HD game...not cheap 480 stuff but Im talking HD 720p quality...

    I tried final fantasy 8 on PS1 with the same settings, and it has been a REALLY long time since I played this game, but it looked EXTREMELY jaggy, like really bad I think since I had it in full screen mode and 720p it was a bit much for a ps1 game to handle, so maybe butting it back to 4:3 would fix that problem up...

    My question is this, for ps1 games should I use 720p or 1080i? and for PS2 games should I use 720p or 1080i?

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    Will this update help people whos older hdmi tv had issues with the ps3 hdmi
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    This is incredible. PS1, PS2, DVD's all upscaled and virtual memory cards aren't a one way street anymore...Thank you Sony!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gepeto View Post
    Will this update help people whos older hdmi tv had issues with the ps3 hdmi
    No, this update will not upscale games ps3 games to 1080i.

    Also, are you guys using the "smoothing" option for ps1 and ps2 games? I did first on GOW 2 and lost a little bit of the visual "pop" so I turned it off.

    It also seems that you have to have the "Full" option on as well to make sure that the game does display in widescreen. In regards to what is better -- 720p or 1080i -- I would just stick with your tv's natural resolution.

    How long do you guys give it until we're seeing screenshot comparisons on Kotaku and Destructoid?
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    I noticed when i try and play PSOne games in 1080i mode, the music skips. In 720p, everything is peachy Honestly though, I really dont see THAT much of a difference in my PSOne and PS2 games. Some difference, yes, but not crazy drastic. I AM using component though, so Im not sure if it'll make a HUGE difference with an HDMI cable. Sucks that my DVDs wont upscale through component though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by agbulls View Post
    How long do you guys give it until we're seeing screenshot comparisons on Kotaku and Destructoid?
    Game.Watch put up a quick comparison of the character select screen of Tekken 5 (not the best comparison since it's just a bunch of 2D). I'd like to see some quality, clean comparisons of 3d (in particular with PS1 games). That's where a bulk of the difference will be found.

    Everytime someone posts a shitty digicam shot of their tv trying to show the difference, god kills a kitten.

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    I downloaded the update tonight after work...and wow. Every PS2 game I've stuck in looks absolutely beautiful. Final Fantasy XII, Shadow of the Colossus, and God of War 2 look like different games. I never thought SotC would be able to look so nice. I'm stunned that this was possible.

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    I got a quick question for those that may know..if I use an HDMI cable to hook up my PS3, can I also use an optical cable for the sound through my stereo or amI stuck with the sound through my tv speakers via the HDMI cable?

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    Default hmmmm....

    The shader really changes your perceptions of the games. I think I am going to need some time with it to come up with an opinion. The cinematic parts of GOW2 is more movie like, but the gameplay in it and other games is really smoothed off, I am not sure if I like it more or less yet.

    The DVD upscaling is awesome though. The PS3 may be the best upscaling DVD player around; again I need more time to be sure...

    Was not impressed with what it did with PS1 games...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiquidPolicenaut View Post
    I got a quick question for those that may know..if I use an HDMI cable to hook up my PS3, can I also use an optical cable for the sound through my stereo or amI stuck with the sound through my tv speakers via the HDMI cable?

    You can still use an optical cable, just enable the optical out in the display setup menu. Set it up for Hdmi but then choose optical audio output instead of Hdmi audio output.

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    There's still gameplay lag with older games with this on HDTVs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonjandran View Post
    You can still use an optical cable, just enable the optical out in the display setup menu. Set it up for Hdmi but then choose optical audio output instead of Hdmi audio output.
    Great to hear! Now I got another question. I just now remembered that my HDTV does NOT support 1080p (highest is 1080i and also 720p). Is there really a huge difference between having my ps3 connected via component (and it says it displays at 1080i on the XMB and some games push it to down to 720p) and having it connected via HDMI if my tv isnt 1080p capable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiquidPolicenaut View Post
    Great to hear! Now I got another question. I just now remembered that my HDTV does NOT support 1080p (highest is 1080i and also 720p). Is there really a huge difference between having my ps3 connected via component (and it says it displays at 1080i on the XMB and some games push it to down to 720p) and having it connected via HDMI if my tv isnt 1080p capable?
    Liquid, we're in the exact same situation. I have a 50" Sony KDF-E50A10 (720p native, 1080i) that my PS3 is hooked up to via component. From what I've read extensively -- here and the avsforums -- the visual difference between 1080p and 720p is almost indistinguishable at close range. For this even to become noticable, you need to be sitting beyond 8-9 ft from your tv.

    In regards to will the hdmi cable make a difference for us? This is the question that absolutely no one has been able to really answer. My impression it's really going to be a combination of 1) your tv + 2) how discerning your eyes are. Considering there was no obvious immediate benefit previously to change from component to hdmi, I just never bothered to spend the $8 bucks or so to get the hdmi cable from monoprice. However, with the new upscaling for standard dvd's I really think it's worth it now. One thing is for -- it can't look worse than component, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by agbulls View Post
    Liquid, we're in the exact same situation. I have a 50" Sony KDF-E50A10 (720p native, 1080i) that my PS3 is hooked up to via component. From what I've read extensively -- here and the avsforums -- the visual difference between 1080p and 720p is almost indistinguishable at close range. For this even to become noticable, you need to be sitting beyond 8-9 ft from your tv.
    Actually you have this backwards. The larger the Tv/Projection and the closer you sit the more difference you will notice between 720p and 1080p. The farther you sit away the less you can tell the difference because you start to loose focus and detail.

    But with anything less than a 100" projection it will be harder to notice the difference between 720p and 1080p. A videophile will be able to but the average person won't.

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    One more thing about HDMI vs. component. I have my PS3 hooked up to my LCD HDTV in a way where I have component and HDMI. I use HDMI for everything, but I wanted to see if there was a visable difference between the two. By switching back and forth (in the PS3 system menu), I determined that the colors were much brighter and vibrant with HDMI. This was especially apparent with PS1 and PS2 games.




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