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    It's about time they rolled this one out.

    http://www.us.playstation.com/News/PressReleases/400

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    Looking forward to seeing how effective their scaling technique is for PS1/PS2 games. I wonder if they just do a simple upscaling job or if they actually render the output at 1080p.

    Guess we'll find out soon enough.

    What I'm really looking forward to is being able to transfer saves FROM the PS3, now. Thank. Fucking. God.

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    Anybody tried out the DVD upscsaling? How is it?

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    The update JUST went live


    Updating now. Can't wait to see how the PS2/PS1 upscaling works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roushimsx View Post
    The update JUST went live


    Updating now. Can't wait to see how the PS2/PS1 upscaling works.
    Yup, downloading now. Hope this works, lol. Booooooooommmmmm!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatofcar View Post
    Anybody tried out the DVD upscsaling? How is it?
    Question:

    Why would you want to upscale a DVD (or PS1/2 game). Why not just play them in their original 480-scanline resolution?

    (curious)

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    Quote Originally Posted by veronica_marsfan View Post
    Why would you want to upscale a DVD (or PS1/2 game). Why not just play them in their original 480-scanline resolution?
    It depends on a number of factors, really. Your TV, the original resolution of the source, and the display mode all play a part in it. PS1 games almost always were not 480i (most were much lower, such as 240p) and a bulk of PS1 games were 480i, while most modern HDTVs are 720p, 1080p, or 1080i. You're going to have to stretch the image to fit the pixels for the best look at your TV's native res (unless you like postage stamps), and for most 4:3 PS1/PS2 games, that means scaling them up to ~1436x1080 or 958x720 (whatever your TV's native res it).

    Most TV's have built in scaler chips and a lot of DVD players do as well, but the quality of the scaler differs pretty wildly. Imagine breaking out an image in photoshop and playing around with different resizing methods, like bilinear, bicubic, and nearest neighbor...it's a bit like that. You're still bound by the quality of the source material, but depending on the method used for stretching it, you can really make it look a hell of a lot nicer.

    It's why sometimes you'll see an HDTV with a normal SD cable signal coming it and it looks like pure poo while othertimes it'll look pretty decent on another model of TV. On lower quality upscaling DVD players the scaler is most likely inferior to the one in your TV already. In comparison, the PS3's scaler seems to be pretty fucking sexcellent, especially as a bonus on what's generally considered, "just an overpriced game console".

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    Does this update mean that I can no play resistance on my oldest HDTV.... my oldest HDTV is only 480p/1080i which always meant resistance would downscale to 480p.

    Will ps3 games also now upscale to the highest resolution on your tv? or is this limited to dvd movies and older games?


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    new article up on IGN about the upscaling

    This time they completely make up for the previous article (which sucked) and previous screenshots (which sucked). Solid cases for and against upscaling with native res screenshots that match up wonderfully and even a comparison of upscaling vs native rendering.

    God, I hope the dude that shit out the other article got his pee pee slapped.

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