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    Default Any MSX/Sega SG1000 versions of games superior to what is available on the NES/SMS?

    Title says all. I don't want to collect/buy/spend money on versions of games that are done much better on the NES/SMS. Any info would be appreciated!
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    Metal Gear for the MSX is the definitive version over the Famicom version.

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    None of the games that appear on both the SG-1000 & SMS are better on the SG-1000, though there's not a *massive* difference between the versions of Bank Panic, Champion/Great Soccer or Penguin Land.

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    super pitfall, where not better then the nes version, is almost totally a differnt game worth checking out.

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    I'd say most of Konami's games for the MSX1 are worth owning, even if the NES versions are better. They're different enough (or in the case of Parodius and Gradius 2 completely different) to warrant checking out.

    For the SG-1000, the only games really worth getting for it are unique ones not available elsewhere. Girl's Garden is particularly good, so is Gulkave. Golgo 13 is decent, but it's a completely different game from the NES one and isn't as good.

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    There aren't very many good SG1000 games IMO, and none are better than the NES versions. Some good games worth owning for the SG are:

    Galaga- missing bonus rounds but still fun to play.

    Star Jacker- very similar to Astro Warrior for Master System with great music.

    HERO- Not as good looking as some versions but still plays just as good.

    MSX also has a Castlevania game ported to it.
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    As previous posters have stated, more often different than good.

    Akumajo Dracula(Castlevania) was released a month apart from the Famicom version on MSX2, while they look similar they are different to play.

    On MSX2 the game has large levels resembling the stages in the Famicom version you can explore, finding keys and different weapons. The gameplay is far less polished, as is the control. Overall a bit frustrating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Family Computer View Post
    Metal Gear for the MSX is the definitive version over the Famicom version.
    What is different about the MSX version? Graphics, gamplay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vintagegamecrazy View Post
    Star Jacker- very similar to Astro Warrior for Master System with great music.
    Do you not mean Star Force? That's a lot closer to Astro Warrior, though in my book, Star Jacker is the better game.
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    MSX has the real Metal Gear 2 (which I think is available as an unlockable bonus on one of the PS2 Metal Gear Solid games).

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    A few games I've always wanted to try but scared of the cost:

    SG1000:

    Chack 'n' Pop ~ a Taito game that looks like Bubble Bobble

    Champion Pro Wrestling ~ I love older Wrestling Games (NES Pro Wrestling comes to mind.)

    Choplifter ~ I love the Choplifter games as well. Would like to know how this is.

    Drol ~ I *LOVED* this on the Apple //E. So the thought of a console version is tantelizing.

    Elevator Action ~ NES probably has the best port, but still would like to see what it's like.

    Lode Runner ~ (IMO) the graphics looks better than the NES version, just don't know how it will play.

    Zaxxon ~ I love Zaxxon and would like to see just how close this is to the Colecoversion.



    MSX:

    Bubble Bobble

    Chack'n' Pop

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    Thexder + Firehawk (Thexder 2) ~ I loved playing these since the days of the Tandy 1000. It probably looks average to a lot of people but I always ate it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzwing256 View Post
    super pitfall, where not better then the nes version, is almost totally a differnt game worth checking out.
    Wasn't Super Pitfall for the SG-1000 a port of Sega's licensed version of the arcade game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve W View Post
    Wasn't Super Pitfall for the SG-1000 a port of Sega's licensed version of the arcade game?
    It's Pitfall II that came out on the SG-1000 and in the arcade, not Super Pitfall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue lander View Post
    …Gulkave.
    I have been curious to see and play this game. All I know is that it is a horizontal Compile shoot them up.

    Where does Gulkave rank among Compile games?

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    95% of the SG-1000 library is really ugly graphics-wise, and really inferior to versions of those games on other consoles. There are a couple of games that look good enough to be an NES game, but just a couple. Gulkave is one of them. Gulkave isn't a particularly great game, but it at least looks pretty for a game on that system.

    One game that does look equal in graphics to its sequel on the NES is The Castle, a prequel to Castlequest. Although, being equal isn't necessarily a good thing, because Castlequest is quite a hated NES game.

    Maybe I'll take some screenshots to show you how ugly some of these games are. Bombjack, Elevator Action, Lode Runner, Wonderboy, etc, all those games everyone recognizes, you'll think look ugly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TurboGenesis View Post
    I have been curious to see and play this game. All I know is that it is a horizontal Compile shoot them up.

    Where does Gulkave rank among Compile games?
    Well, it is horizontally scrolling. Think of it as a mix between the original Zanac and Defender. Well done for the hardware, great for its time, but very dated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by courtesi96 View Post
    A few games I've always wanted to try but scared of the cost:

    SG1000:

    Chack 'n' Pop ~ a Taito game that looks like Bubble Bobble

    MSX:

    Bubble Bobble

    Chack'n' Pop

    Pooyan

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    Thexder + Firehawk (Thexder 2) ~ I loved playing these since the days of the Tandy 1000. It probably looks average to a lot of people but I always ate it up.
    Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake.

    Quote Originally Posted by theoakwoody View Post
    What is different about the MSX version? Graphics, gamplay?
    The game cartridge use one of those Konami custom sound chips (SCC). Also Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake are official games and only works on MSX 2 and up.The ones equipped with Yamaha Video chips. Their are hard covered boxes too ...


    Quote Originally Posted by blue lander View Post
    I'd say most of Konami's games for the MSX1 are worth owning, even if the NES versions are better. They're different enough (or in the case of Parodius and Gradius 2 completely different) to warrant checking out.

    For the SG-1000, the only games really worth getting for it are unique ones not available elsewhere. Girl's Garden is particularly good, so is Gulkave. Golgo 13 is decent, but it's a completely different game from the NES one and isn't as good.
    There is a version of Gulkave for MSX1 too ...

    Quote Originally Posted by TurboGenesis View Post
    I have been curious to see and play this game. All I know is that it is a horizontal Compile shoot them up.

    Where does Gulkave rank among Compile games?
    Quote Originally Posted by Snapple View Post
    95% of the SG-1000 library is really ugly graphics-wise, and really inferior to versions of those games on other consoles. There are a couple of games that look good enough to be an NES game, but just a couple. Gulkave is one of them. Gulkave isn't a particularly great game, but it at least looks pretty for a game on that system.

    One game that does look equal in graphics to its sequel on the NES is The Castle, a prequel to Castlequest. Although, being equal isn't necessarily a good thing, because Castlequest is quite a hated NES game.

    Maybe I'll take some screenshots to show you how ugly some of these games are. Bombjack, Elevator Action, Lode Runner, Wonderboy, etc, all those games everyone recognizes, you'll think look ugly.
    The Castle is one of those computer games that have versions for various computers. The MSX1 have two Castle games The Castle and The Castle Excellent .

    Quote Originally Posted by idrougge View Post
    Well, it is horizontally scrolling. Think of it as a mix between the original Zanac and Defender. Well done for the hardware, great for its time, but very dated.

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    Default There are not many games at all !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by vintagegamecrazy View Post
    There aren't very many good SG1000 games IMO, and none are better than the NES versions.
    The library of titles for the SEGA machines is very much limited, a similar approach could be done when searching dedicated titles for the Nintendo platform ... After all there is/was only some hundred's titles available for those 8-bit formats. The MSX/MSX2 in the other hand has thousand's available. The titles for MSX2+ and MSX Turbo R are equally spares like the ones for SG-1000.

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