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    Default Do working Turbo Duo emulators exist?

    I don't have a zillion dollars to buy a real duo so I was looking for emulators to use instead and to just buy the CDs. The only one I can find that works great is magic engine but for some reason it wants me to pay for it which is dumb. Do any other good emulators exist for this thing?

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    The only other one is just for HuCards-Hu6280
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    Magic Engine is the best PC Engine emulator out there.

    Unfortunately you have to pay for it, but if you look in the regular shady places, you can find keygens and hacks to allow you to run it completely unrestricted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bust3dstr8 View Post
    The only other one is just for HuCards-Hu6280
    Hehe, you're really behind the times there.



    Ok, here are some others.

    Mednafen - runs everything from hucard to Arcade card, to SuperGrafx. It's actually *much* more accurate than ME as far as emulation goes, but it's a command line emulator. Not for the technically challenged. It's a fav among demo and indie programmers for its debugger, too.

    Ootake - It started with the source from PC2E, which strives for accuracy. This EMU is free and fastly becoming a contender. It'll play hucard,CD,SCD,ACD, and I think it does some SGX emulation now. It has regular updates.

    MESS - someone is working on upgrading the PCE/TG support, but nothing public yet.

    Charles MacDonald might be redoing his in the future (not entirely sure on that though).

    There is another multi-system emulator out there that does hucards and CDs, but I forget the name of it (XE or something like that).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overbite View Post
    I don't have a zillion dollars to buy a real duo so I was looking for emulators to use instead and to just buy the CDs. The only one I can find that works great is magic engine but for some reason it wants me to pay for it which is dumb. Do any other good emulators exist for this thing?
    Real Duos aren't THAT expensive, a bit over $100 maybe.

    Sorry, got no help on the emu thing, just throwing that out there!

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    I paid for Magic Engine years ago...$11 I think. More than well worth it honestly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overbite View Post
    I don't have a zillion dollars to buy a real duo so I was looking for emulators to use instead and to just buy the CDs. The only one I can find that works great is magic engine but for some reason it wants me to pay for it which is dumb. Do any other good emulators exist for this thing?
    Booohooohooo, someone spent years developing a polished, commercial-level emulator and wants around a 10 spot for it. How dare them! Pay for someone else's work that was developed as a premium pay emulation project from the start? That's nuts!

    Geez, pony up the cost for a real TurboDuo or at least purchase a proper license for MagicEngine - you honestly get what you pay for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zektor View Post
    I paid for Magic Engine years ago...$11 I think. More than well worth it honestly.
    Very true. I bought it as soon as it was available (if I remember correctly), about 11 years ago and I never regretted it. Works great, feels like a commercial product, and great customer support (I've lost my key file a few times and a quick e-mail to the author got it fixed up really fast).

    Haven't really used it much since I got an actual Duo, but it's still well worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneDavid View Post
    Geez, pony up the cost for a real TurboDuo or at least purchase a proper license for MagicEngine - you honestly get what you pay for.
    I know, really...it never ceases to amaze me how cheap and self-serving people can be when it comes to supporting the community (whether by buying classic consoles or emulators, homebrews, etc.)...then people wonder why there's no motivation by anyone to bother producing anything.

    On a more general level, situations like this clearly demonstrate the effects that all the illegal music downloading and other such "harmless" activities have had on modern youth culture...everybody expects everything for free.

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    Geez guys. I could see getting all upset if he said he was going to pirate it, but clearly he is just asking for another alternative. No need to get all defensive, and in all fairness, every other popular console has excellent free emulators available. That, and emulation isn't exactly the most ethical practice to begin with. One could argue that charging for an emulator is quite unethical as well.....

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    Seconding Mednafen and Ootake. Magic Engine has a nice litle interface and all, but there's absolutely no reason to use it anymore. Mednafen is a better emulator overall, and if you just have to have a GUI because you don't want to make a short batch file to boot cd-based games, then Ootake works damn well, too. It seems like as soon as I stumble on a bug for Ootake, it winds up getting patched in the next version. The guy is a fucking coding machine.

    If you really want to spend some cash, donate it to the Mednafen team or email Kitao Nakamura asking how to send him $$$

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    Quote Originally Posted by whoisKeel View Post
    One could argue that charging for an emulator is quite unethical as well.....
    How is it unethical to charge for a program you put time a lot and effort into (no matter what it does)? They charge for the emulator, not the ROMS (which no one indeed has the right to charge for). I don't follow you.

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    Believe it or not, but the legal foothold on emulators and any reverse engineering of software at all was set by the Sega vs. Accolade trial in the early 90's. So if you reverse engineer to learn how a console works, and then develop your *own* code to mimick that, it is legal and ethical. Frankly I think the same could be said of ROM's, but nobody is going to do that. Yet it would only really apply to the game's basic design. Any of the characters or logos would likely be trademarked.

    As for paying for emulators, I paid for bleem once, probably the biggest waste of money in my life for a video game product (aside from NES Airwolf). That product had no right to be sold, because it barely worked and the games looked aweful. Then open source ePSXe was better developed, and for free I had an emulator that was 50 times better than bleem! Honestly I don't care if they charge for Magic Engine, if they are still actively updating it. However, if its something they developed and sold 10 years ago and stopped working on, shame on them. No better than EA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg2600 View Post
    As for paying for emulators, I paid for bleem once, probably the biggest waste of money in my life for a video game product (aside from NES Airwolf). That product had no right to be sold, because it barely worked and the games looked aweful. Then open source ePSXe was better developed, and for free I had an emulator that was 50 times better than bleem!
    You may be right...people do sell shoddy products, and as a consumer you have a right to not buy them. I wasn't trying to start a debate about whether or not it's proper to charge for emulators, I was simply making a general point that anytime you ask someone to pay for something nowadays that's not a tangible object (you know...music, movies, computer software), they piss and moan. In this world brought up on internet culture, intellectual property rights are basically nonexistent, and people will go to outrageous lengths to defend their inalienable 'right' to have everything they want for free. That's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smork View Post
    Real Duos aren't THAT expensive, a bit over $100 maybe.

    Sorry, got no help on the emu thing, just throwing that out there!
    US Duo's are a bit more than one hundred. More like $200-$300.

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    Yeah, line me up on $100 US Duos, I'll buy 100 of em!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PingvinBlueJeans View Post
    You may be right...people do sell shoddy products, and as a consumer you have a right to not buy them. I wasn't trying to start a debate about whether or not it's proper to charge for emulators, I was simply making a general point that anytime you ask someone to pay for something nowadays that's not a tangible object (you know...music, movies, computer software), they piss and moan. In this world brought up on internet culture, intellectual property rights are basically nonexistent, and people will go to outrageous lengths to defend their inalienable 'right' to have everything they want for free. That's all.
    I agree, hard to complain about something which is free. I have purchased many a (small) software product over the years in that way. Usually for around $10, and they often work terrifically, for what they are intended to do. The best one I've bought was called TV Tool, by a guy in Germany. It allowed for TV output from an nvidia card, which nvidia never bothered to develop working software for. My point is sometimes these apps are released and 3 years later, nobody is updating them and the creator still charges. This stinks because if that guy isn't going to work on it, release it to open source so it can be improved. Don't know if that is the case with Magic Engine, just generally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg2600 View Post
    My point is sometimes these apps are released and 3 years later, nobody is updating them and the creator still charges. This stinks because if that guy isn't going to work on it, release it to open source so it can be improved. Don't know if that is the case with Magic Engine, just generally.
    Well it's been almost 3 years since the last release of Magic Engine on PC and there's still a ton of noticeable bugs left in there (such as incorrect colors in Dracula X). They're just finally improving the MacOSX port to make it suck less than it used to, but I haven't bothered to try it out yet.

    Their main focus seems to be on working on their PC-FX emulator, for some ungodly reason. The CD-I had more good games on it. Speaking of CD-I and charging for an incomplete piece of software that's never updated, the CD-I emulator is still >$30 to register, has a low compatibility, and hasn't been updated in...3+ years?

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    I'd be happy to pay the Magic Engine guys for an improved version that worked on AppleTV.

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    Paying to register Magic Engine is money well spent.

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