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    Quote Originally Posted by lendelin View Post
    That's a funky version of Stella Deus you have there. I've never seen that artwork before.

    Mine, and every other copy I've seen, looks like this:


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    I'm glad you posted this. Now I know what to look for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by debian4life View Post
    Congrats! Great job of collecting. Which RPG is your favorite?

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    You have to take my recommendation not only with a grain of salt but a full shaker of salt. (see post above how many games I actually played.) Heybtbm and Daria are certainly more qualified to answer the Q about the best of the best on the list.

    My favorite (and the biggest surprise) was Dragon Quest VIII. Just a wonderful game. The gameplay gave me the old Dragon Warrior feeling. The cel-shaded graphics, the quirky humor and good story, the "pacing" of play elements (relaxing play time, levelling up, intense boss battles, storytelling) were all in balance.; and if everything just irrationally fits together and is in perfect balance, then we have truly outstanding games. Take one element away, and its off-balance and just 'very good.' The same goes for novels or poems or a fantastic sitcom like Seinfeld.

    My second favorite was Kingdom Hearts. I plan to play Persona 3, Disgaea, Metal Saga, and Okage Shadow King - at some point. Hopefully rather sooner than later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by esquire View Post
    That's a funky version of Stella Deus you have there. I've never seen that artwork before.

    Mine, and every other copy I've seen, looks like this:

    Holy Kwoly, another variant to get? esquire, you are a sadist!

    Seriously, THANKS a lot for the input. Great eye, guy.

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    i dont know why but i would double check to see if the insert is doulbe sided. its a rare thing but its worth checking before you call variant on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbeatmongrel View Post
    i dont know why but i would double check to see if the insert is doulbe sided. its a rare thing but its worth checking before you call variant on it.
    You are correct sir. I just opened mine up and pulled out the artwork. Lendelin must have bought his used and the prior owner inverted it.

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    To all of you who suggested additions or removals: the list is by no means a papal list, just as inclusionary as possible.

    I think at a time when the genre bending hit a peak, borderline cases are aplenty. Lots of games mentioned are in the borderline category anyway. The Drakengards? Certainly border-borderline. GrimGrimoire, certainly a RTS with a strong RPG feel, therefore it is in the borderline category as well.

    I think we could agree on 90% of the games in the list, the remaining games are up to individual tastes. For some it is 'Graffiti Kingdom and Magic Pengel out, and Shadow of the Colossus and Gauntlet in.' In the end we can only say that there is noc such thing as a "truly" complete list of a genre, just that you completed the collection you made up for yourself regarding the remaining ten percent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djbeatmongrel View Post
    i dont know why but i would double check to see if the insert is doulbe sided. its a rare thing but its worth checking before you call variant on it.
    Great, thanks so much to you and esquire! It is double-sided indeed. BTW, Magna Carta has also a double-sided cover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nate Nanjo View Post
    Check Atlus's Website in 2 days, they should be announcing Persona 3: FES or playing some joke. So that will be another to add. Also, I want to do this collection.
    Yep, you're right, I forgot about this one. That makes three on the list of future releases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlcarlson View Post
    Nice man, congratualtions. This is something I've been striving for as well, and for the same reason it seems. It is a pain in the butt trying to track down PS1 rpgs now, especially at an affordable price, so why not take all of that work out for the PS2? The only difference is that I have no desire to own alot of those games, I'm only going for the (arguably) quality titles. You won't find Draken, Angel, or Fullmetal Alchemist in my collection. I think I've got about 15 more to go until I will be satisfied.
    Exactly my thoughts, too....and there were great sales in the last four years.

    I'd say that in the next two or three years you'll get the RPGs pretty easy and for a reasonable price; but it is probably not a good idea to wait longer than that looking at the prices of the RPGs for the PS1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sudo View Post
    Congrats, I wish I had the money to build up a collection like that.
    Actually it wasn't so expensive. I bought them over a period of six years, waited for great sales, and in some cases I really lucked out. The SMT Digital Devil Saga Box Set was $10 (the TRUS pre-Christams sale three years ago), Nocturne was $18, there were a lot of games in the CC clearance bins for $13 and $17 like Grandia III, Disgaea, Disgaea 2, all the Xenosagas, Legendia, Metal Saga and others from TRUS sales, and lots of deals from BB GS or Amazon.

    Together with same profitable sales on ebay all the games weren't too expensive.

    The price drops for RPGs are clearly the worst compared to other genres, still if you wait long enough you'll get them for a reasonable price. Usually I hardly bought a game for more than $20, most of the Deluxe sets are Christmas and birthday gifts.

    I'd say on average I probably paid $20 for a game, not too expensive considering they were bought over a time of six years. (not considering some profits from resales I made and then invested in buying games like so many of us do.)

    NEVER EVER do what I did with Soul Nomad or Phantasy Star Illuminus. I bought them for $40 each which I usually don't do. In particular the new Phantasy Star game will drop soon in some sales to $10. I was just too impatient and wanted the few remaining games on my list NOW.

    If you want a lot of games you have to be a cheapskate, and patience pays off
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    Mentioning the PS1 list, is it still in the threads someplace? I've searched numerous times. Do we have a complete, detailed list like for PS2? I'm too working on my PS2 RPG list, but was gonna hit PS1 at the same time as I know it will take much longer.

    Kiss ass collection though, I'd personally get all those damn stickers off the cases though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skelix View Post
    Mentioning the PS1 list, is it still in the threads someplace? I've searched numerous times. Do we have a complete, detailed list like for PS2? I'm too working on my PS2 RPG list, but was gonna hit PS1 at the same time as I know it will take much longer.

    Kiss ass collection though, I'd personally get all those damn stickers off the cases though
    Do a search for threads started by Daria in Classic Gaming and it should be near the top. I think there were a few borderline games she missed, but those were all discussed in the thread as well, so it's a pretty perfect resource. And expensive as hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skelix View Post
    Mentioning the PS1 list, is it still in the threads someplace? I've searched numerous times. Do we have a complete, detailed list like for PS2? I'm too working on my PS2 RPG list, but was gonna hit PS1 at the same time as I know it will take much longer.
    I have a list which someone posted in a DP thread a long time ago from the Official PlayStation Mag from 2003. I can cut and paste it if you're interested.

    Kiss ass collection though, I'd personally get all those damn stickers off the cases though
    There are no stickers on opened cases. I'm as finicky as you can get. If you see stickers they are on the shrinkwrap because the game is still sealed. Around 70% of the games are sealed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlcarlson View Post
    Do a search for threads started by Daria in Classic Gaming and it should be near the top. I think there were a few borderline games she missed, but those were all discussed in the thread as well, so it's a pretty perfect resource. And expensive as hell.
    Yep, good advice.

    I still don't have Suikoden II. Even three years ago I didn't want to pay $70 for it. I have around 50 PS1 RPGS, but still missing important ones like Thousand Arms, Persona Revelations, and Kartia.

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    Here is a list of PS1 RPGs.

    Complete Alphabetical List of RPGs for the PS1 (US Releases)

    (as listed and rated in the the Official PlayStation Magazine, April 2002)

    Alundra ****½
    Alundra 2 ***
    Arc the Lad Collection ****
    Azure Dreams ***
    Battle Hunter *1/2
    Beyond the Beyond - Not Rated
    Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain - Not Rated
    Brave Fencer Musashi ****
    Breath of Fire III ***½
    Breath of Fire IV ***½
    Brigandine ***½
    Chocobo's Dungeon 2 **½
    Chrono Chross *****
    Darkstone ***½
    Diablo ****
    Digimon World *1/2
    Digimon World 2 **
    Dragon Warrior VII ****½
    Dragon Valor ***
    Dragonseeds **
    Eternal Eyes *1/2
    Final Fantasy VII *****
    Final Fantasy VIII *****
    Final Fantasy IX *****
    Final Fantasy Anthology ****½
    Final Fantasy Chronicles ****
    Final Fantasy Origins (added!)
    Final Fantasy Tactics ****
    Front Mission 3 ****½
    Grandia ****½
    Granstream Saga ***
    Guardian's Crusade ***
    Harvest Moon: Back to Nature ***½
    Hoshigami: Ruining Blue Earth **½
    Jade Cocoon ***½
    Kartia ****
    King's Field - Not Rated
    King's Field 2 - Not Rated
    Koudelka ***
    Legend of Dragoon ****½
    Legend of Legaia ****
    Legend of Mana **½
    Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete ****½
    Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete ****
    Master of Monsters - Not Rated
    Monkey Hero **
    Monster Rancher - Not Rated
    Monster Rancher 2 ****
    Monster Seed - Not Rated
    Ogre Battle Limited Edition - Not Rated
    Parasite Eve ****
    Parasite Eve 2 ****½
    Persona - Not Rated
    Persona 2 ****
    Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure ***
    RPG Maker ****½
    Saga Frontier ***½
    Saga Frontier 2 ***½
    Saiyuki: Journey West ***½
    Shadow Madness **½
    Shadow Tower ½
    Star Ocean: Second Story ****½
    Suikoden - Not Rated
    Suikoden II ****
    Tactics Ogre ***½
    Tail of the Sun - Not Rated
    Tales of Destiny ****
    Tales of Destiny 2 ***½
    Thousand Arms ****
    Threads of Fate ***½
    Torneko: The Last Hope **
    Vagrant Story ***½
    Valkyrie Profile ****
    Vandal Hearts - Not Rated
    Vandal Hearts 2 ***½
    Vanguard Bandits **½
    Wild Arms - Not Rated
    Wild Arms 2 ***1/2
    Xenogears ****

    TOTAL NUMBER: 79



    HERE ARE THE SAME GAMES LISTED ABOVE ORDERED BY GENRE AND OTHER CATEGORIES

    PS1 Role Playing Games

    (With ratings and listed by categories as reviewed in the Official Playstation Magazine, April 2002)


    15 Must-Play RPGs:

    Chrono Chross *****
    Dragon Warrior VII ****1/2
    Final Fantasy VII *****
    Fintal Fantasy VIII *****
    Final Fantasy IX *****
    Final Fantasy Tactics ****
    Front Mission 3 ****1/2
    Grandia ****1/2
    Legend of Dragoon ****1/2
    Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete ****1/2
    Star Ocean: Second Story ****1/2
    Suikoden - Not Rated
    Vagrant Story ***1/2
    Valkyrie Profile ****
    Xenogears ****

    Breeding RPGs:

    Digimon World 2 **
    Dragonseeds **
    Jade Cocoon ***1/2
    Monster Seed - Not Rated
    Monster Rancher - Not Rated
    Monster Rancher 2 ****

    Something Different:

    Harvest Moon: Back to Nature ***1/2
    Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure ***
    Tail of the Sun - Not Rated
    Thousand Arms ****

    On Its Own:

    RPG Maker ****1/2


    Retro Redux:

    Final Fantasy Anthology ****1/2
    Final Fantasy Chronicles ****
    Final Fantasy Origins (added!)
    Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete ****
    Ogre Battle Limited Edition - Not Rated
    Tactics Ogre ***1/2

    Strategy RPGs:

    Arc the Lad Collection ****
    Brigandine ***1/2
    Hoshigami: Ruining Blue Earth **1/2
    Kartia ****
    Master of Monsters - Not Rated
    Saiyuki: Journey West ***1/2
    Vandal Hearts - Not Rated
    Vandal Hearts 2 ***1/2
    Vanguard Bandits **1/2

    Action RPGs:

    Alundra ****1/2
    Alundra 2 ***
    Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain - Not Rated
    Brave Fencer Musashi ****
    Chocobo's Dungeon 2 **1/2
    Darkstone ***1/2
    Diablo ****
    Dragon Valor ***
    Parasite Eve 2 ****1/2
    Monkey Hero **
    Threads of Fate ***1/2
    Torneko: The Last Hope **

    Traditional RPGs:

    Azure Dreams ***
    Breath of Fire III ***1/2
    Breath of Fire IV ***1/2
    Granstream Saga ***
    Guardian's Crusade ***
    King's Field - Not Rated
    King's Field 2 - Not Rated Koudelka ***
    Legend of Legaia ****
    Legend of Mana **1/2
    Parasite Eve ****
    Persona - Not Rated
    Persona 2 ****
    Saga Frontier ***1/2
    Saga Frontier 2 ***1/2
    Shadow Madness **1/2
    Suikoden II ****
    Tales of Destiny ****
    Tales of Destiny 2 ***1/2
    Wild Arms - Not Rated
    Wild Arms 2 ***1/2

    5 Worst RPGs:

    Battle Hunter *1/2
    Beyond the Beyond - Not Rated
    Digimon World *1/2
    Eternal Eyes *1/2
    Shadow Tower ½


    Total number: 79

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    Quote Originally Posted by lendelin View Post
    To all of you who suggested additions or removals: the list is by no means a papal list, just as inclusionary as possible.

    I think at a time when the genre bending hit a peak, borderline cases are aplenty. Lots of games mentioned are in the borderline category anyway. The Drakengards? Certainly border-borderline. GrimGrimoire, certainly a RTS with a strong RPG feel, therefore it is in the borderline category as well.

    I think we could agree on 90% of the games in the list, the remaining games are up to individual tastes. For some it is 'Graffiti Kingdom and Magic Pengel out, and Shadow of the Colossus and Gauntlet in.' In the end we can only say that there is noc such thing as a "truly" complete list of a genre, just that you completed the collection you made up for yourself regarding the remaining ten percent.
    No doubt genre definitions are fuzzy. The whole concept of genres tends to be vague anyway because only the most "standard" games define them. We know Super Mario Bros. is an action platformer. We know Street Fighter II is a fighting game. But what about GrimGrimiore? It's essentially the same thing as Command & Conquer...but instead of Russians and tanks it's elves and sorcery. Then you get people who consider Castlevania: Symphony of the Night an RPG despite it being point for point Super Metroid with leveling up.

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    Cool collection.

    Ill take it off yer hands.
    Hows 2$ shipped sound?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sothy View Post
    Cool collection.

    Ill take it off yer hands.
    Hows 2$ shipped sound?
    That's outrageous. How cheap can you get? I want a fair price, my friend. You can have them for $4.99, PLUS $5 shipping, no cent more, no cent less. Deal?

    ...and you thought I don't know the prices for games, think again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyTheTiger View Post
    Then you get people who consider Castlevania: Symphony of the Night an RPG despite it being point for point Super Metroid with leveling up.
    Considering "leveling up" is one of the main points of a console RPG (scroll down to "Definition and confusion"), I'd say that sounds right. Afterall, Ys (an RPG) is basically Legend of Zelda (an action adventure) with leveling up. Most people seem to place more emphasis on a game having a fantasy setting than on any specific gameplay bits, which is why stuff like Legend of Zelda and Drakan get lumped into these collections.

    ...and what's up with Future Tactics, which isn't even remotely close to anything resembling an RPG (turn based tactical shooter)? I mean, at least with Deus Ex there's the argument that if King's Field qualifies then something with more depth very well ought to qualify, but the only link Future Tactics has to any of the other games on the list is its title.

    tl;dr - You need to start cracking the plastic open on some of these and start playing them. Plus you need Deus Ex.

    Quote Originally Posted by lendelin View Post
    That's outrageous. How cheap can you get? I want a fair price, my friend. You can have them for $4.99, PLUS $5 shipping, no cent more, no cent less. Deal?

    ...and you thought I don't know the prices for games, think again.
    For $5 shipping, it damn well had better not come in a bubble wrap envelope or else I'm leaving negative feedback.

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