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    Default Pinball Hall of Fame: Williams Edition (Wii and others)

    Ahh yes. Another "anyone else pick this up?" thread.

    Right after getting House of the Dead, which I was looking forward to, I got this. In spite of the fact that I was really looking forward to HOtD, Pinball Hall of Fame has become an addiction. Seriously, I got suckered into the "just one more game" thing Sunday night and next thing I knew it was 3:30 am.

    Like the Gottlieb edition, it's a budget title. However, I think this one has improved on the earlier one in every way. The game feels more polished, the table goals are easier, the credit system more fair, etc. This one doesn't feel budget to me. The last one did.

    Also new is the Wii controls. You hold the chuck in the left, Wiimote in the right and work the flippers with the triggers. But, you can nudge the table by moving the controllers. It's not as precise as using a thumbstick, but it feels a lot more like real pinball.

    Though the graphics (on the Wii) look a bit last gen, you can look past that. The only thing I don't like is the interface, which is a pseudo arcade kind of like the old Namco Museums on PSX. Just give me a list of games, thanks.

    Anyway, this is a killer pinball game. The tables are fun, the physics are tight, there's a good amount of variety and the price is right (I found this for $20.) Highly recommended, if you like pinball.

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    http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=113638

    Haven't tried it myself, but I'd love to in the somewhat near future.
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    While the tables on the Williams collection are certainly recognizable and fun for any pinball enthusiast ....

    .... I need to ask again (and I know it's largely rhetorical) : WHY IS THERE NO MEDIEVAL MADNESS??!!

    Medieval Madness is one of the best designed "multi-level/interactive table" pinballs EVER ... and was easily one of Midways high-points, sadly coming at the end of their pinball-making days.

    *sigh*

    It seems a perfect fit for a showcase like this. If this collection sells enough maybe we'll get it in a sequel.
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    D'oh!

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    Thanks for combining these.

    So, anyone know what your credits are for after you unlock all the tables? I have almost 500 of them and there doesn't seem to be anything else to unlock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatofcar View Post
    Are the ball physics and load times any better in this version than in the Gottlieb collection? If not I'll just stick to Pinball FX.
    CW commented on the improved physics, but what about the load times? I can deal with load times between tables, but the last one had freaking load times between games! Unacceptable.

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    I'm one of the most sensitive to loading times people I know and the loading times don't bother me at all. There's like a few seconds when you change tables, but that's it.

    OK, I have one bitch, it still doesn't save your camera angle preferences. At least the default table angle is better this time (Smart Cam, which means it zooms in on the upper part of the table and shows the whole thing at about below halfway.) Still, why they couldn't have gotten this right, I don't understand.

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    Apparently there is another pinball game coming out for Wii in a week or two:

    http://tinyurl.com/3ckat5

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    This game is fantastic - I've been playing on Wii for a week or so. They really went the extra mile - each table a tutorial that shows you how to play the table (how to get multiballs, how scoring works, what shots to make, etc). For people like me who enjoy pinball, but don't really know what they're doing, this is a godsend. The presentation is also excellent - you can turn on/off an "arcade ambience" track to play in the background that helps you feel like you're in the arcade. Graphically it looks really sharp. There are a variety of game modes - single table play, tournaments, etc. Finally, each table has goals to meet - unlock multiball, score 1,000,000, make such-and-such a shot.

    I give it an A. It's not a rushed-out cash-in type of title, and the developers really went the extra mile.

    [Edit] the one thing I don't like is that while there isn't really load time between games on a single table, it does force you to go back to the table menu. It only takes a couple seconds, but sometimes (after a bad game) I'd like to just restart immediately. This is just a minor gripe, though.
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    I've been playing Pinball Hall of Fame: The Williams Collection (Wii) for the last few weeks and it's really grown on me. For $30, it's a fun, competently produced game.

    The arcade where I choose which pinball game I want to play features mediocre graphics, but it doesn't end up being a distraction. The pinball tables themselves, which is the main aspect of the game, look fantastic. All of the table artwork is bright, colorful, and detailed. The 3D elements, like the flippers, bumpers, and ramps, look realistic. There are subtle reflections on each table, which enhance the realism. If the reflections are annoying, they can be disabled. (Keep in mind, I have a standard definition TV. I assume the game looks good on an HDTV, too.)

    I'm not a pinball expert, but the sound effects seem accurate to me. The buzzes, beeps, and digitized voices sound like they're coming out of small, old, lo-fi pinball speakers, which is true to life. The other sound effects, like plungers, flippers, and bumpers, sound pretty clear.

    I just beat the Williams challenge mode yesterday, which was fun and exciting. I've also been able to complete most of the table goals and unlock several Wizard goals.

    Quote Originally Posted by boatofcar View Post
    Are the ball physics and load times any better in this version than in the Gottlieb collection? If not I'll just stick to Pinball FX.
    The load times in the Williams Collection (Wii) are about one-and-a-half seconds long. Basically, they're non-existent. The "Loading..." messages barely flash on the screen before I'm back in the game.

    I haven't played the Gottlieb Collection, but the physics in the Williams one are very good.
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    So...what kind of unlockables does this game have? I know the other one had tables that you could unlock...any luck here?

    I was REALLY hoping for the Twilight Zone table or possibly the T2 table...

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    Just a small bump to let people know that Target has this game (Wii version) for $20. It's really fun, though I wish they'd have the A button used instead of B for the right flipper.

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    Keep your eyes open at Target on this one...I got mine for $14 there, and I've seen it one other time at that price there, so YMMV of course, but even at $20 this is one of the best purchases you could make for your Wii.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokehouse View Post
    So...what kind of unlockables does this game have? I know the other one had tables that you could unlock...any luck here?

    I was REALLY hoping for the Twilight Zone table or possibly the T2 table...
    A collection like this and at this price won't contain any tables based on licences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry Silljo View Post
    A collection like this and at this price won't contain any tables based on licences.

    Hmmm...didn't think of it that way...

    Anyone find any unlockables...I've unlocked all the tables (including purchasing a few freeplay) and am wondering if there are any bonus tables to unlock...

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokehouse View Post
    Anyone find any unlockables...I've unlocked all the tables (including purchasing a few freeplay) and am wondering if there are any bonus tables to unlock...
    The Wii version features ten tables. There aren't any unlockable tables, but there are some unlockable options, like custom ball, tilt, and mirror mode.

    By the way, all of the tables in my game are available for free play. Is there any purpose to the 473 tokens I've collected now?

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    Anyone figure out how to unlock the other stuff like the custom balls, tilt, etc yet? I've got free play on all the tables now, and have completed all the basic challenges on each table and have completed the wizards challenges on a few of them. But these options are still locked...

    Anyone have any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by -^CrožBow^- View Post
    Anyone figure out how to unlock the other stuff like the custom balls, tilt, etc yet? I've got free play on all the tables now, and have completed all the basic challenges on each table and have completed the wizards challenges on a few of them. But these options are still locked...

    Anyone have any ideas?
    I'm assuming that to unlock the custom balls, tilt, and mirror mode, I'll have to complete the wizard goals for all ten tables. I'm almost there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie_Says_Relax View Post
    .... I need to ask again (and I know it's largely rhetorical) : WHY IS THERE NO MEDIEVAL MADNESS??!!
    At my old job I started working for the internal audit department and I learned that lots of changes that were made in the company were due to legal reasons or licensing or some new regulation. I'd hear in the elevator on the way to my floor other workers complaining about how stupid the latest decision or change was or why something wasn't done, but they didn't realize there were legal or licensing ramifications (or perhaps trying to prevent) behind it.

    It was amazing to me just how many decisions (and directions the company had to go in) the company had to make based basically just on legal reasons. So the answer to your question may not be they overlooked this great pin, but perhaps there's some odd licensing or royalty agreement associated with that game and it just can't be done (or will cost a lot of $ and time). Just a thought =)

    Oh and this game was rated about 7.5 in both Nintendo Power and Game Informer if I remember correctly.

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    Got mine for $14 at target as well. Have not played it yet, but I am glad everyone is enjoying it.

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    As I think most people already know, this is coming to the Xbox 360 and PS3.

    Here's some information on the enhanced port of this title that should excite everyone that enjoyed the earlier version on the Wii/PS2/PSP.

    3 New Tables - No Good Gophers, Medieval Madness & Tales of the Arabian Nights
    Pinball Level Ranking
    Enhanced Art and Physics
    Online Leader Boards
    More/Expanded Table Goals

    Three new tables has me pretty excited. i believe Medieval Madness is one that many people were hoping would eventually be included on one of these things. Tentative release date is the end of July. Combine all this with HD graphics and this should easily be the best video pinball title to date. Should be a fun game to work towards collecting all the achievements/trophys as well.
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    I already have the game on Wii, but Medieval Madness is one of my favorite tables, so I'll probably get the PS3 version, especially if it's budget-priced like the Wii version was.

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    Unlike the Wii version, I hope this Xbox 360 version gets released in the UK, or is at least region free. That, coupled with achievements and HD graphics make it a superior purchase for me anyway.

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    Does anyone have any information on the upcoming 3DS release? Can we expect a few new tables?

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    I wish they'd patch the damn bug in the 360 version. Still haven't completed the basic goals for Arabian Nights because of it.
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