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    Here's a link at gamesniped http://www.gamesniped.com/, brought up by googling Video Game Authority.

    I love the fact the sellers called BigHed!

    Let us all game on & ignore all this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bojay1997 View Post
    Aside from the fact that I think this is just dumb, I can't believe they are assigning a grade based solely on the box and shrinkwrap. At least when they grade comics, cards or action figures, they can see the actual product and give an accurate rating to the entire package. Here, they have no idea if the manual was mangled at the factory, if the game was left in damp or hot weather and the cartridge sticker peeled, whether there was a mistake at the factory and something was missing or damaged, etc...I am a sealed collector, and I know that I take these risks as well, but I'm not paying someone $25 for this worthless service. Moreover, I like my sealed games in the same condition they would be in a retail store (mint and wrapped), not in some acrylic box with someone's logo at the top and a meaningless number grade.
    Considering someone is actually dumb enough to do this, they may not even be able to tell a real-seal from an origional one.

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    That neo_gamer a-hole doesn't have anything to do with this right? This is a horrible idea, and I hope at least he doesn't gain monetarily from this.

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    No, this isn't rediculus.

    What IS rediculus is that people are paying $90 for SMB3 and $140 for Final Fantasy 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James8BitStar View Post
    No, this isn't rediculus.

    What IS rediculus is that people are paying $90 for SMB3 and $140 for Final Fantasy 1.
    And he wants $8.00 for a Super Mario Bros./Duck Hunt cartridge, not even slabbed!. It does have that black Nintendo sleeve though.

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    If i wanted to be a real asshole... i'd go have some boxes made up from the original maufacturer. Toss in some SMB/Duck Hunt, then seal it on the original equipment. Send it in to them and have them grade a "perfect" fake. See how many of those get through before people are up in arms...

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    Thing is Prog...unless someone broke the almighty slab ...noone would even know they had a fake if it was done that well.
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    I would also like to voice my disappointment in this turn of events.

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    Does anyone else not realize that if in fact this takes off it benefits the gaming community by lowering prices for non-slabbed games?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatofcar View Post
    Does anyone else not realize that if in fact this takes off it benefits the gaming community by lowering prices for non-slabbed games?
    Actually, we're just pissed that they haven't started grading sealed food, the greatest collectible of all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boatofcar View Post
    Does anyone else not realize that if in fact this takes off it benefits the gaming community by lowering prices for non-slabbed games?
    Has this benefitted any other hobby the way you're describing?

    I am really asking, not being an ass...

    Like in baseball cards and comics, for instance... did non-slabbed "specimen" prices nose dive once the practice was introduced? I don't think it did, but I'm making a very blind guess here. As in- I've never had anyone tell me about how they've benefitted from this in any other hobby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDomesticInstitution View Post
    Has this benefitted any other hobby the way you're describing?

    I am really asking, not being an ass...

    Like in baseball cards and comics, for instance... did non-slabbed "specimen" prices nose dive once the practice was introduced? I don't think it did, but I'm making a very blind guess here. As in- I've never had anyone tell me about how they've benefitted from this in any other hobby.
    Of course. Let's take comics for instance. A non-slabbed gold or silver age book will be about half the price of a slabbed version. Just check ebay. Baseball cards graded or ungraded are so worthless now it's hard to see a difference. Unslabbed coins or coins slabbed by fly-by-night companies tend to go for about 75% of their slabbed counterparts.

    It's hard to find specific examples because stock changes so much on ebay, but this is what I've found during the past two or three years I've looked at those three things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatofcar View Post
    Of course. Let's take comics for instance. A non-slabbed gold or silver age book will be about half the price of a slabbed version. Just check ebay. Baseball cards graded or ungraded are so worthless now it's hard to see a difference. Unslabbed coins or coins slabbed by fly-by-night companies tend to go for about 75% of their slabbed counterparts.

    It's hard to find specific examples because stock changes so much on ebay, but this is what I've found during the past two or three years I've looked at those three things.
    Just curious if you or anyone knows offhand because I'm too lazy to figure it out... How expensive does a book/coin have to be for it to be worthwhile? I guess I'm asking how much the grading costs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornelius View Post
    Just curious if you or anyone knows offhand because I'm too lazy to figure it out... How expensive does a book/coin have to be for it to be worthwhile? I guess I'm asking how much the grading costs.
    Coins cost about $20 to grade send off to grade, so realistically your coin should be worth more than that to make it worthwhile. Some people make a good living buying slabbed coins they think they can break open and resubmit in the effort to get a higher score and resell for a profit.

    EDIT: I don't know much about comics, but here's CGC's faq page. I'm pretty sure they're the biggest grading outfit out there.

    http://www.cgccomics.com/faq/index.asp
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    Quote Originally Posted by boatofcar View Post
    Of course. Let's take comics for instance. A non-slabbed gold or silver age book will be about half the price of a slabbed version.
    But is this because of non-graded items diminishing in price, or because of graded items increasing in price?

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    It won't really affect me. I buy games to play, not to sit on a shelf in my house collecting dust. However, this may hurt the game collecting community as a whole via it will be hard to find certain games at a resonable price that are not sealed in some special grading package.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubledownon11 View Post
    What's gonna happen when the shrink warp on the game starts to constrict and slightly crush the game which I've seen happen on some titles over time? As long as it's graded high before the crushing happens then it's ok?
    That rarely happens with Nintendo stuff...it's a lot more common with Atari stuff, etc. A very good point, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDomesticInstitution View Post
    Has this benefitted any other hobby the way you're describing?

    I am really asking, not being an ass...

    Like in baseball cards and comics, for instance... did non-slabbed "specimen" prices nose dive once the practice was introduced? I don't think it did, but I'm making a very blind guess here. As in- I've never had anyone tell me about how they've benefitted from this in any other hobby.
    Here's a good example of a graded versus non-graded baseball card:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/1982-Topps-21-Ca...QQcmdZViewItem

    http://cgi.ebay.com/CAL-RIPKEN-JR-19...QQcmdZViewItem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ze_ro View Post
    But is this because of non-graded items diminishing in price, or because of graded items increasing in price?

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    Yeah... that's sorta my question.

    Quote Originally Posted by y-bot View Post
    Here's a good example of a graded versus non-graded baseball card:
    I know I can look at ebay right now, and see a big difference in prices. That was not my original question, so let me explain it better.

    When grading was 1st introduced to these hobbies- and the 1st few years of the practice being in place, what happened to the value of non graded items? Did a standard, non-graded item increase in price or did it decrease? I'm not talking about relative value (to a graded item). Does anyone know the answer to this? What did a non graded item fetch before grading was introduced, and what did it fetch a year or two later?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooterb23 View Post
    Thing is Prog...unless someone broke the almighty slab ...noone would even know they had a fake if it was done that well.
    The whole point would be that i would break the slab myself, or send it to a neutral 3rd party to break to show that they can't distinguish fakes.

    I think it would put a pretty quick stop to this nonsense.

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