New Wii Update breaks homebrew, Freeloader

[Flack]

http://www.nintendowiifanboy.com/200...or-freeloader/
http://www.nintendowiifanboy.com/200...twilight-hack/

Heads up to all importers.

[RadiantSvgun]

Wow, if I spent money on a freeloader, I'd be pissed.

[GnawRadar]

Wow, if I spent money on a freeloader, I'd be pissed.

Me too. Drexel923 had a couple for sale at Next Level Videogames but I passed on one and now I am glad I did. I wasn't intending to import for the Wii anytime soon, but I had a feeling that this would happen eventually.

[RadiantSvgun]

Me too. Drexel923 had a couple for sale at Next Level Videogames but I passed on one and now I am glad I did. I wasn't intending to import for the Wii anytime soon, but I had a feeling that this would happen eventually.

Its got to be worse for Drexel. He probably won't be able to move those at all!

Hey, there is always target practice.

[GnawRadar]

Its got to be worse for Drexel. He probably won't be able to move those at all!

Hey, there is always target practice.

Nah, he only ordered a couple of them and they are already gone.

[Drexel923]

Me too. Drexel923 had a couple for sale at Next Level Videogames but I passed on one and now I am glad I did. I wasn't intending to import for the Wii anytime soon, but I had a feeling that this would happen eventually.

Its got to be worse for Drexel. He probably won't be able to move those at all!

Hey, there is always target practice.

I also thought this might happen...I only ordered 2 and sold 1 of those over a month ago. Unfortunately I guess the other one will now be a nice coaster.

[GnawRadar]

Nah, he only ordered a couple of them and they are already gone.

I also thought this might happen...I only ordered 2 and sold 1 of those over a month ago. Unfortunately I guess the other one will now be a nice coaster.

Well I guess I was wrong.

[Kitsune Sniper]

I also thought this might happen...I only ordered 2 and sold 1 of those over a month ago. Unfortunately I guess the other one will now be a nice coaster.

Keep it stored for a couple of years then sell it as a collector's item? :P

[Cmtz]

but now we have two topics on it...lol

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=118176

[TonyTheTiger]

Ever since the first Xbox came out and Microsoft started giving people's consoles the axe on Live it's become a gamble to use any gray market peripherals or exploits. Anyone who wants to invest in Freeloaders or mod chips these days has to be aware that the purchase comes with a risk. This is just going to be a continuing trend. Nintendo/Sony/MS will put an end to the most popular tools. The creators of these tools will come up with a stealth tool or somehow find a new "in." Nintendo/Sony/MS will follow that up with another update. I wouldn't be surprised if the people who want to keep using these freeloaders will have to buy 4 or 5 of them during the lifespan of the console.

[Poofta!]

homebrew isnt really broken. you just cant use the exploit from twilight princess anymore. however if you already installed the homebrew channel, you can still install and run homebrew. (the homebrew channel forgoes the need for the TP bug)

[theoakwoody]

Can't you just not update your wii? I don't see what the great benefit to 3.3 is anyway. The ability to drag and drop your miis into the parade, who gives a shit.

[TonyTheTiger]

What are the odds that consoles with the Homebrew Channel (or other non-Nintendo sponsored things) will eventually be attacked by Nintendo either by deleting it from the system, rendering it useless, or worse, bricking the Wii? Is it something that's as likely as fixing an exploit like they did here?

[zektor]

What are the odds that consoles with the Homebrew Channel (or other non-Nintendo sponsored things) will eventually be attacked by Nintendo either by deleting it from the system, rendering it useless, or worse, bricking the Wii? Is it something that's as likely as fixing an exploit like they did here?

I *highly* doubt Nintendo will brick your Wii with an update. They want your money remember

At best, a future update could simply remove the Homebrew Channel and possibly check your system for illegal VC/Wiiware and remove those as well.

As for now, the 3.3 update removes the ability to use the Twilight Hack and trucha signed discs (Freeloader). If you already have the Homebrew Channel installed it will still work after the update, but you had better not remove it or there would be no way of a re-install.....since you cannot use the hack anymore which makes it all possible in the first place.

I am still on 3.2. I removed my wireless connection and am using my Wii without any internet connectivity. I have some great stuff running on it homebrew wise...enough to warrant purchasing another Wii need be down the road to use for updating/online/etc. I love the HB channel and the various emulators (which all run GREAT) enough not to want to loose the ability.

[thegreatgonzo]

OakWoody make a point. What about those Wii that were never updated? I have a Wii probably a 3.1 version. Why couldn't those Wiis use the Freeloader or whatnot for imports?

[Kitsune Sniper]

OakWoody make a point. What about those Wii that were never updated? I have a Wii probably a 3.1 version. Why couldn't those Wiis use the Freeloader or whatnot for imports?

But they can make the games update the firmware before letting you play them. I remember that some PSP titles did this, but I'm not sure if Wii titles do this too.

[Cryomancer]

They do. Galaxy does I believe. Whatever the next big nintendo title will have this update or a further one.

edit: is there anything worth homebrewing for right now? Emulators? I don't wanna play them on a classic controller or cube. Unless maybe there's a good n64 one, I don't think I'd enjoy that too much. Playing Genesis downloads on the classic is painful. They really should have thought that controller out a bit more in my opinion. I heard there was some software DVD player, again, why would i want to use it for that? I've got 5 other things that can play DVDs and I'd rather not waste wear on my game-playing drive to watch them.

[Icarus Moonsight]

As I figure it, you're going to need to go one of two routes for simplicities sake. Buy a second Wii for homebrew and keep it off-line and running on the earliest firmware version possible to use while the hardware is alive and active at market. Or, just wait until the end of the hardwares lifecycle and use the latest circumvention method after Nintendo stops bothering with the updates and such. Kind of obvious, I admit, but I'm taking the latter as my plan.

[Sweater Fish Deluxe]

As I figure it, you're going to need to go one of two routes for simplicities sake. Buy a second Wii for homebrew and keep it off-line and running on the earliest firmware version possible to use while the hardware is alive and active at market. Or, just wait until the end of the hardwares lifecycle and use the latest circumvention method after Nintendo stops bothering with the updates and such. Kind of obvious, I admit, but I'm taking the latter as my plan.

Why not just install the Homebrew Channel before updating? This update doesn't remove it or disable it at all.

Even if Nintendo comes out with an update later thatd does kill the Homebrew Channel, you'd be able to re-install it within a couple days if you wanted to since that's about how long it takes for hackers to circumvent the fix.

From what I've read (see HackMii.com), Wii hackers have already found a new exploit that works with the 3.3 firmware update. Apparently they're exploiting a bug in the updated firmware itself and sticking with Twilight Princess as the trojan rather than just using an entirely new game with an exploit similar in operation to the original Twilight Princess, though that route would have also been possible. Seems a bit more inflammatory, but that's part of the hacking game, I guess.


...word is bondage...

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

This is very reminiscent of the early PSP exploit situation.

Updates specifically crafted to kill exploits, games rolling out with new firmware attached ...

If the current state of PSP firmware hacking is any indication of where this will lead ... my guess is that we'll see the hacking community stay one step behind Nintendo with every new firware (rolling out new hacks shortly after each firmware update) and we'll see totally custom Wii firmware within a year or so, probably even less time than that.