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    Default First sequel in video game history?

    As a historian, I really should know this, but I'm sorta stumped. Was it Super Break-Out?

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    Super Pong? Odyssey 200?
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    Do you mean home consoles or all games, including arcades? I'd figure the many incarnations of Pong would have been the first?
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    Hmm, interesting question.

    In 1975 the sequel to Odyssey (1972) was called Odyssey 100, so that's probably the first "system sequel" like PS1 to PS2.

    The RCA Studio II (no RCA Studio I) did have some I and II titles in their education titles (TV Schoolhouse I & II), as did the Fairchild Channel F with their Math carts (Math Quiz 1 & 2). These sorts of titles seem more like "paired" titles rather then a prequel-sequel sequence. IE they seemed designed and manufactured parallel.

    However, I think the first sequel on home system would be Speedway II (1977) on the Atari VCS aka Street Racer. Speedway II (the Sears name for an Atari cart) was probably named after a dedicated console which had PONG and race car games on it, that Sears had distributed in 1976. So, the first sequel on an home videogame system could be considered a cross generational system title!

    In the arcades, per KLOV.com, SeGa released Pong Tron and Pong Tron II in 1973, that may be the first arcade based sequel set, unless you count PONG Doubles (Atari 1973) as a sequel to PONG (1972).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg2600 View Post
    Do you mean home consoles or all games, including arcades? I'd figure the many incarnations of Pong would have been the first?
    Well, I am talking about a true sequel, not a variation with a different name. For example, Ms. Pac-Man and Street Fighter II are true sequels. Galaga is not (it's a spin-off of Galaxian).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mezrabad View Post
    However, I think the first sequel on home system would be Speedway II (1977) on the Atari VCS aka Street Racer. Speedway II (the Sears name for an Atari cart) was probably named after a dedicated console which had PONG and race car games on it, that Sears had distributed in 1976. So, the first sequel on an home videogame system could be considered a cross generational system title!
    Great reply, but was there a game called just Speedway before Speedway II? how about the first home system true sequel with the same name? For example, there was Break-Out! and then Super Break-Out! for the 2600. Was that the first of its kind? Also, what was the first true system sequel with a "2" in the name (rather than Super, Deluxe, etc.)?

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    I seriously doubt this is anywhere near the first.. but I remember when Sea Wolf 2 came out and I was thinking it was pretty neat in that it was a more 'advanced' Sea Wolf, which I had played before

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    Ultima (Origin) came out in 1980, and Ultima II in 1982.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stonic View Post
    Aren't all sequels variations of the original by nature? Btw, Ms. Pac was essentially a hack of Pac-Man."
    Yes, but I think he means titles that were intended as sequels, right? Not "This is not Breakout II (wink)"

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    Quote Originally Posted by stonic View Post
    Again, Ms. Pac-Man isn't a good example of a "true" sequel because it wasn't developed as such. Baby Pac-Man or Super Pac-Man would be better examples. However, I consider Galaga a "true" sequel to Galaxian, just as Gaplus is a true sequel to Galaga.

    Otherwise, you need to be more specific on making the distinction between sequel and true sequel, because "a variation with a different name" pretty much applies to every game mentioned

    If your definition of a true sequel is having "II" in the title, then Tank II is probably the first.
    well, I consider Ms. Pac-Man more of a "true" sequel to Pac-man than Galaga is to Galaxian, because the original name (Pac-Man) is in the follow-up. Galaga wasn't called Galaxian II or Super Galaxian, but a completely different that that the average Joe wouldn't know it was even related. I was talking a sequel with the original's name somewhere still in it. I guess it may be Tank II. For home systems, probably Super Break-Out!

    Now here's a good one: Eliminate arcades comepletely. What was the first console sequel to another console game (like another poster said, let's not count parallel games like the Math games on the Studio II). You may have to dip into the 80's for the answer.

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    Atlantis to Cosmic Ark? Hard to debate that one as a "TRUE" sequel, though there may of course have been earlier examples.
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    What about Sprint? Was Sprint 2 an actual sequel or just a variation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by White Knight View Post
    ... Also, what was the first true system sequel with a "2" in the name (rather than Super, Deluxe, etc.)?
    Assuming you mean non-pong systems, that would probably be the Channel F System 2 released by Zircon (not exactly a #2, but close enough). The 1292 APVS line of consoles had a ton of incremental name variations, but not sure if you would include this group in your original question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slapdash View Post
    Atlantis to Cosmic Ark? Hard to debate that one as a "TRUE" sequel, though there may of course have been earlier examples.
    Really? They didn't have much to do with each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XianXi View Post
    What about Sprint? Was Sprint 2 an actual sequel or just a variation?
    If I remember correctly, Sprint 2 was actually the first of the Sprint series. The number referred to the number of players.
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    Ya I looked up and remembered that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stonic View Post
    At the end of Atlantis, a small saucer escapes, which turns out to be the ark in Cosmic Ark. The small saucer that escapes at the end of Cosmic Ark was intended to lead to another follow-up game. Both games were developed at the same time, so one isn't a sequel of the other. The programmers just decided to tie them together, using the little saucer and the background stories.
    Heh. I didn't know that. Pretty cool.

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    Yeah. And the point is they're sequels in the sense of the story, not just numbered 1 & 2, or just adding some extra play mechanic to the first game.
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    if it's not Atlantis & Cosmic Ark, I'd say it's Miner 2049er & Bounty Bob Strikes Back
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