GTA: Lost and Damned to show nudity, aka 'dangly parts'

[Cryomancer]

You're glad you get to play a video game that features male genitals?

Yes. I hate censorship. This is a step towards freedom to have whatever content you want in games and still have it sold. I support this movement.

[shopkins]

They could've done a better job modeling his genitals. Not very realistic looking.

The wang physics could also use some work. Maybe they could consult with Team Ninja?

There was digital wang all the way back in Leisure Suit Larry II. I beat it about a year ago and at the end you're treated to a scene of Larry and his girlfriend running nude along a beach, Larry flopping in the breeze.

[Push Upstairs]

"wang physics"

[djbeatmongrel]

this is a big deal because?

[grimlock]

There was digital wang all the way back in Leisure Suit Larry II. I beat it .......

Just sayin'.....

[scooterb23]

Mr. Stubbs indeed...

[The 1 2 P]

Grand Theft Auto IV Lost and Damned: Now with 100% more "dez nuts"

[TonyTheTiger]

Yes. I hate censorship. This is a step towards freedom to have whatever content you want in games and still have it sold. I support this movement.

It's not censorship. It's the free market at work. Nobody is telling a game publisher that they can't do this or that. What's happening is different parties are saying "We won't let you publish that on our console" or "We won't sell that in our stores." That's different from censorship. Nobody can force Nintendo to allow a game on the Wii or force Gamestop to stock a certain game, for instance.

Besides, I'm all for dispelling this fantasy that video games are the same as film. They aren't. They're a different monster entirely and people are delusional if they think using the "rules" of film as a target goal is going to produce better games. It doesn't work that way.

[Iron Draggon]

Would you still think that his manhood wasn't necessary if the camera panned out and he looked like a Ken doll down there? I'd rather see what I expect to see between a man's legs than to be left wondering what happened to his family jewels! And for those who think he doesn't look real down there, it's because he isn't circumcised. He has a foreskin, which is actually how every man is born into this world, so it's alot more natural and realistic than one that's had its protective covering cut off or one that's been cut off entirely. Get over it. Your dad had one, and you came out of it before you came out of your mom's vagina. That's the facts of life. If you don't like them, then kill yourself and die. Would you rather they show a horny dog humping the guy's leg, and show the dog's dong?

[TonyTheTiger]

It's pretty obvious that this scene was done for comedic effect. Male nudity tends to be for that purpose. And the fact that this is a video game where the digital characters aren't particularly realistic, it's plainly obvious it's supposed to be tongue in cheek silly. If the camera panned out and he did look like a Ken doll then that would have probably damaged the sight gag so they just wouldn't have panned out in the first place. Although if he did look like a Ken doll that would create an entirely different gag. It would hang a lampshade on the video game nature of the scene itself which would be comically viable, too. So, yes, it could have "worked" as a scene either way.

I can appreciate visual comedy. In fact, despite the irony of doing so, I've seriously studied comedy. But, if you notice, this is comedy. If they were trying to entice or even just put a serious spin on the scene then they would have failed miserably with these visuals. Video games have different "rules" regarding sex and nudity. And I don't mean rules like regulations. I mean rules like what works and what doesn't within the confines of an interactive experience and limited graphics. The fact that this is a relatively unrealistic looking man in a video game is a part of the joke. The medium can't really be separated from the gag. You can't make those kinds of jokes in film. The closest thing I can associate it with is nudity of elderly or obese people in comedy movies.

It's only relatively recently that graphics have gotten good enough where something like this could even fly as an actual sight gag. Imagine trying this in GTA1 or 2? I wrote an article in Video Game Trader Magazine about this subject. I don't think Rockstar was out of line (outside of my own lack of enthusiasm for male nudity) but I think that using film as a role model is a bad idea.

[fishsandwich]

Awesome. Thanks for posting!

[Nature Boy]

There was digital wang all the way back in Leisure Suit Larry II.

Have we all forgotten about Custer's Revenge?

[TonyTheTiger]

Yeah, but those "people" in Custer's Revenge barely looked human at all. We know that was his wang only because they told us it was. That's one of the reasons why I think video games are in a totally different world than movies are. This is probably the first time digital wang actually has a real impact where it's like "AWGH!!! Put that away! I don't wanna see that!"

[Eggman]

Yeah, but those "people" in Custer's Revenge barely looked human at all. We know that was his wang only because they told us it was. That's one of the reasons why I think video games are in a totally different world than movies are. This is probably the first time digital wang actually has a real impact where it's like "AWGH!!! Put that away! I don't wanna see that!"

Wouldn't genitalia recorded in a movie be more realistic and have more of an impact than a video game cutscene?

This isn't interactive (Hot Coffee), this is merely something that can be shown in motion pictures but cruder and less detailed.

[fishsandwich]

Yeah, but those "people" in Custer's Revenge barely looked human at all. We know that was his wang only because they told us it was. That's one of the reasons why I think video games are in a totally different world than movies are. This is probably the first time digital wang actually has a real impact where it's like "AWGH!!! Put that away! I don't wanna see that!"

Now, now. We all KNEW that was a wang the second we saw it!

[TheDomesticInstitution]

Double Post. Sorry...

[TheDomesticInstitution]

"Nice big cock."

[j_factor]

Would you still think that his manhood wasn't necessary if the camera panned out and he looked like a Ken doll down there? I'd rather see what I expect to see between a man's legs than to be left wondering what happened to his family jewels! And for those who think he doesn't look real down there, it's because he isn't circumcised. He has a foreskin, which is actually how every man is born into this world, so it's alot more natural and realistic than one that's had its protective covering cut off or one that's been cut off entirely. Get over it.

No, that's not why. It's just not very well modeled. It's like they just slapped it on there without putting any effort into it at all. Then again, GTA4 doesn't have the best character models to begin with.

[Garry Silljo]

Would you still think that his manhood wasn't necessary if the camera panned out and he looked like a Ken doll down there?

I don't think it was necessary for the camera to pan out at all. The rest of the scene made it perfectly clear he was naked. It was funny enough implied. Verification wasn't at all needed and done just for the buzz it would cause.

[kupomogli]

Beat em and Eat em also. The guys penis is as big as his upper body on that game. I'm jealous .