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    Omfg! The House On The Left Has A Vivid Horrible Rape Scene!!!

    Let's All Get It!!!! *grabs Pitchforks And Fire*

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    Quote Originally Posted by c0ldb33r View Post
    There are probably tons of them.

    This game has been out for years. No one knew this game existed. By raising a stink about this game now, they're increasing the number of downloads or purchases this is getting tenfold.
    just checked the torrent trackers, the interest on this one is up over 30 fold.

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    Wow, It only take a couple people to talk about this game, and it's getting shit load of hits because of this

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    That's sick and your all right, they shouldn't ban it because it'll only draw attention. Morally I'm opposed to this or GTA for that fact and don't play overloy violent games usually. I will play RE4, though it's violent, your out to kill evil. I will however not play a tasteless game like Manhunt for the same moral reasons I wouldn't play this rape game.

    It's too bad that so many Japanese have to get off to this kind of stuff causing so many programmers to design this stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by c0ldb33r View Post
    Omfg! The House On The Left Has A Vivid Horrible Rape Scene!!!

    Let's All Get It!!!! *grabs Pitchforks And Fire*
    That scene isn't celebrated, though. I think that's the core difference.

    But this is why I think that video games shouldn't be compared to movies and vice versa. Two different mediums. Two different sets of "rules" so to speak. And the only reason why something like Manhunt can sell is because it doesn't actually look real. I think most people would get sick to their stomachs otherwise because, unlike film, video games are an interactive medium.

    I'll be the first to admit that it's not worth getting up in arms over one out of a thousand hentai games. It's friggin' hentai. Who gives a shit, right? I'm just saying that at some point there is a line.

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    Sad part is this one is kinda tame compared to Biko 3 if you ask me. In the game, you actually STALK the girls first. Like, it's a stealth action follow them home from the train station game. Although supposedly you can also win their love somehow less creepy/rapist too, but I was terrible at that game as I am at all stealth games.

    And yeah seriously Rapelay was popular on internets over tw years ago, bringing this up again has only made more people play it. They had already moved on to somewhat less rapist games like Artificial Girl 3 by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unwinddesign View Post
    People are horrified by this, but barely blink an eye at the hundreds of games where you gibb humans into gooey little bits.

    I know the argument goes that rape is "psychologically fucked up" etc. etc. and that getting off it on is, well wrong, but I always thought killing people was worse. One life and all that shit.
    Usually in games where you kill people, you kill enemy soldiers, criminals, "bad guys", etc. That usually seems more acceptible to people than abusing innocent school children or women. Think about action movies, most are considered appropriate when "bad guys" are killed. Other movies involving serious abuse or torture like what's in the game usually isn't as easily accepted by people.

    Even with states that have the death sentence, that seems to be considered appropriate punishment. But I've never heard of any state sentencing people to be raped or tortured as punishment for any crimes. It really is considered worse than death.


    Quote Originally Posted by TonyTheTiger View Post
    It's true that this isn't news. Rape simulators and various types of games/anime are not new. I've seen a few in my day and though I haven't played/seen this one I'd bet it's not the worst of the bunch, either. I think this can be summed up, though, by taking a look at A Clockwork Orange.

    In the novel, the main character rapes a couple of ten year olds. In the movie adaptation, however, it's changed to consensual sex with older teens. This, I think, defines the difference. With a book, simple prose, it's just words. It's far less jarring because it really is "just a story." But when adapted to film, now you're dealing with something far more vivid and even in a movie as fucked up as A Clockwork Orange, not many people would be comfortable depicting a child rape scene. Especially since these girls would be played by actresses who are actually real people. I'm all for creative freedom but creative freedom comes paired with creative responsibility. And filming the scene as it was written would have been creatively irresponsible.
    Don't forget about Lolita(also made into a film by Stanley Kubrick, and later remade into another film by someone else). A 40+ year old man is into a 12 year old girl, and the film sticks closely with the ages(changed to 14). The later remake shows some really graphic scenes, and you know it's a child. I turned on the TV several years ago and the remake happened to be on, I wondered what the hell they were showing since it seemed so wrong to be broadcast, that's when I looked it up and found out it was originally a book.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonicwolf View Post
    This is pretty sick. Where is the line? Im surprised there isnt a child molesting game. Its not far from that.
    There are plenty of eroge games like that, plenty involving school aged children, and a few of those involving things like incest(brother and sister, etc). I don't play eroge games, but I've read reviews on several of them and was very shocked at what they actually include in them. The more I read about Japanese culture the more I want to distance myself from it.

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    Banning it is a wasted effort, because anyone with a PC that can run it has a suitable connection to pirate it from somewhere. And really, someone who supports RAPE probably has no issues with downloading illegally, which makes me wonder why they even buy it to begin with.

    Unfortunately, there exist people who think that "nudity = porn" no matter what. So we get rape drawings. There's "vore" which usually involved people being eaten, possibly digested, and people find that to be pornographic.

    Rape is just a hair above murder.

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    I'll be perfectly honest. I don't think that absolutely everybody who plays this game is a wannabe rapist. I don't think that there's necessarily a correlation between people who do this "fantasy" stuff and what they'd do in real life. If that were the case then we'd all be going to hell for getting a kick out of watching our people run around like lunatics when the kitchen bursts into flames in The Sims.

    I just think that at some point things stop being entertainment. Film can be used for a lot of things, not just movies. But even some fictional movies, traditionally intended to entertain, tend to jump a line where I find it hard to call it "entertainment." The same can go for video games.

    This and many other hentai games I liken to slasher films. If Friday the 13th actually happened I think every single one of us would be shitting ourselves. That is not something we want to see. Now I'm not particularly a fan of slasher films but I can understand that it's a brand of entertainment that works for a lot of people. These fans can separate the fantasy of the movie from how they'd feel if it were actually unfolding right in front of them. And I'm sure most of the people who play RapeLay would be horrified if they saw a comparable event happen to their next door neighbors.

    So, no, I don't think fans of hentai, even if the hentai involves rape or pedophilia, are necessarily bad people who are rapists and pedophiles themselves anymore than I think that people who play GTA are all closet mass murderers. I do, however, think RapeLay and comparable games are in bad taste and I wouldn't produce one myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyTheTiger View Post
    I'll be perfectly honest. I don't think that absolutely everybody who plays this game is a wannabe rapist. I don't think that there's necessarily a correlation between people who do this "fantasy" stuff and what they'd do in real life. If that were the case then we'd all be going to hell for getting a kick out of watching our people run around like lunatics when the kitchen bursts into flames in The Sims.

    I just think that at some point things stop being entertainment. Film can be used for a lot of things, not just movies. But even some fictional movies, traditionally intended to entertain, tend to jump a line where I find it hard to call it "entertainment." The same can go for video games.

    This and many other hentai games I liken to slasher films. If Friday the 13th actually happened I think every single one of us would be shitting ourselves. That is not something we want to see. Now I'm not particularly a fan of slasher films but I can understand that it's a brand of entertainment that works for a lot of people. These fans can separate the fantasy of the movie from how they'd feel if it were actually unfolding right in front of them. And I'm sure most of the people who play RapeLay would be horrified if they saw a comparable event happen to their next door neighbors.

    So, no, I don't think fans of hentai, even if the hentai involves rape or pedophilia, are necessarily bad people who are rapists and pedophiles themselves anymore than I think that people who play GTA are all closet mass murderers. I do, however, think RapeLay and comparable games are in bad taste and I wouldn't produce one myself.
    Hentai does not automatically equal "bad". There ARE simple nude drawings of legal age adult characters, and soemtimes someone actually draws a consensual act.

    The closest the US had to this was Ethnic Cleansing, the white supremacist game crapped out by the morons behind Resistance Records. Only mindless white trash bought copies to play. Funny, really, since most white supremacists are probably too stupid to play video games.

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    All things considered, Axelay is much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diosoth View Post
    Hentai does not automatically equal "bad". There ARE simple nude drawings of legal age adult characters, and soemtimes someone actually draws a consensual act.

    The closest the US had to this was Ethnic Cleansing, the white supremacist game crapped out by the morons behind Resistance Records. Only mindless white trash bought copies to play. Funny, really, since most white supremacists are probably too stupid to play video games.
    I know. I wasn't including general "animated porn" in this. Or even "real life" porn, for that matter.

    And, yeah, Ethnic Cleansing as well as that JFK shooting simulator fall into a similar category of artistic irresponsibility. We've all had these moments where somebody is telling bad (read: racist/sexist/vulgar/etc.) jokes and you're all laughing because they're genuinely funny but then somebody goes "a little too far" and it stops being fun. It hits too close to home, so to speak. I think that's what can happen in these situations. I can't draw the line but I know when it's been crossed. And it's usually when you first see somebody give that uncomfortable smile where they only show the top row of their teeth.

    I'm the biggest fan of "edgy" humor but even the most open stand up comics who work with racial humor all the time probably cringed when they saw the Michael Richards fiasco, regardless of their color. Our personal "lines" might be in different places but I think most people have them.
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    Why bother responding to this topic at all?

    1. Defending Rapelay either makes you a rapist wannabe or rapist video gamer.
    2. Defending rape play (between two consenting adults OR fictional characters) makes you a weird creep.
    3. Defending controversial topics in video games makes you a pariah.

    Lastly, is there nothing more important we should be looking over? Usually, when politicians do things like this, they're only using it to fuel some other fire. Say... Preventing minors from buying M-rated games (unconstitutional). Fining people who sell M-rated games to kids (also unconstitutional). Or shipping M-rated games by mail (much like with wine, tobacco and porn) which could find their way into the hands of some poor impressionable youths. Or fining a tax on the sales of M-rated games? Or preventing any American company from working on erotic games????

    Seriously, if the best Illusion game can make it to CNN after three years ... What could a decent American game company do?

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    Which brings up another thought. Why does "erotic game" make people go "lawl Japan" when it should be "lawl prudish America". And a crackdown on game content is a very real threat, people. Look at Germany, which made selling Gears of War 2 illegal just like dozens of other games. Look at in China and that Warcraft expansion. Look at Japan, which censored blood/red out of No More Heroes.

    I really want to write up a much longer article on this. I probably won't, but at least I'll think about it tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonMarco View Post
    snip.
    You realize that you just posited a huge straw man, right? Nobody in here, or even in the media, was making the argument you just attacked.
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    So what online stores carry this? Yeah it's sick and I would never play it, but if it's gonna be banned I want it because it'll be a part of gaming history.

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    It's not banned and it won't be. It's just that this all started when Amazon noticed the game was being sold on the site and decided to put a stop to it. That's what caused the "news." Some major online retailers are not allowing it but I'm sure you can find it if you look hard enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonMarco View Post
    heh wow, what a post
    Why bother responding to any topic at all?

    1. Defending anything either makes you a rapist wannabe or rapist video gamer.
    2. Defending anything makes you a weird creep.
    3. Defending controversial topics makes you a pariah.

    Seriously? Why bother trying to stifle a conversation. If you don't want to engage in the conversation, don't bother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonMarco View Post
    Look at Japan, which censored blood/red out of No More Heroes.
    No More Heroes is a Japanese developed game. Europe doesn't have the blood either, it was ADDED for the American release.

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    Can we agree that outside some folks' shield of anonymity provided by the internet, that hentai, dating sims, and associated forms of "entertainment" are extremely lame?

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