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    Quote Originally Posted by ThoughtBomb View Post
    'It's RRRape!'
    This thread just got 120% more awesome.

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    I'll throw in my hat on this one..

    What makes rape different from killing somebody? Let's remove this whole "good" and "evil" because those terms are bulllshit. They merely exist to give us REASON to kill, maim, rape, whatever. It's ok to kill this guy because he is "bad."

    No matter how "bad" RapeLay may be (I didn't play it because I personally find it to be disgusting), how long until all of our favorite games are labelled as "bad" and banned?

    Why is this being banned anyway? What evils will not banning it allow? Will this game create MORE rapists in the same way that _insert shooting game here_ creates more murders, or Punchout! creates more boxers, Madden inspires more children to become pro football players, etc etc?

    How many people have fantasized about becoming a bagger at a grocery store because they played a lot of Tetris or Klax growing up? I, for one, never followed through on my fantasy to pilot a spaceship shooting asteroids for no apparent reason in the middle of space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThoughtBomb View Post
    I was just goofin on your avatar. The thought of Tony the Tiger making social commentary about a hentai rape game makes me laugh. Yea, I'm a little nutty. 'It's RRRape!'
    Yeah, I suppose when I get all "seriousness" about stuff the smiling cartoon tiger is just incongruent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kroogah View Post
    This thread just got 120% more awesome.


    Quote Originally Posted by Compute View Post
    I'll throw in my hat on this one..

    What makes rape different from killing somebody? Let's remove this whole "good" and "evil" because those terms are bulllshit. They merely exist to give us REASON to kill, maim, rape, whatever. It's ok to kill this guy because he is "bad."
    I don't think it's fair to compare rape vs. killing. A better comparison would be either sex vs. killing or rape vs. murder. Rape vs. killing is comparing a specific sex crime with a general principle of taking a life when not all killing is murder or even criminal behavior.

    RapeLay vs. Manhunt is probably the best comparison. Although Manhunt appears to be much more "real" and "gritty" whereas RapeLay looks a lot more cartoony.

    Quote Originally Posted by Compute View Post
    No matter how "bad" RapeLay may be (I didn't play it because I personally find it to be disgusting), how long until all of our favorite games are labelled as "bad" and banned?

    Why is this being banned anyway? What evils will not banning it allow? Will this game create MORE rapists in the same way that _insert shooting game here_ creates more murders, or Punchout! creates more boxers, Madden inspires more children to become pro football players, etc etc?
    There actually is no real banning going on. A few retail outlets have decided not to sell the product but usually "banning" is reserved to the government stepping in. Child pornography is banned, for example. I don't like people smoking in my car but smoking isn't "banned."

    Even if this game were banned, however, I don't think the slippery slope is going to happen. This is a very specific situation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Compute View Post
    How many people have fantasized about becoming a bagger at a grocery store because they played a lot of Tetris or Klax growing up? I, for one, never followed through on my fantasy to pilot a spaceship shooting asteroids for no apparent reason in the middle of space.
    You didn't follow through? I'm currently looking to advance my education in asteroid shooting theory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie2B View Post
    Rape and subway gropings are two very, very different things.

    The last thing this topic needs is to turn into another "Japan is so bizarre" or "Japan is so messed up" topic. We shouldn't vilify an entire nation and people over an obscure, creepy PC game. People are acting as if Rapelay is getting the same sales and recognition in Japan as Final Fantasy.
    If only Japan's rape reporting rates were in line with other nations. It's likely been underreported for years. If a person is raped, it seems nobody gives a fuck.

    Don't just take it from me. Gender equality still has a way to go in Japan, but it does seem the situation is improving. Believe whatever suits your sense of justice, I guess.

    On the other hand, there was a paper correlating a surge in porno availability with a decrease in rape, here.

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    I don't know shit about sociology but perhaps the apparent abundance of hentai where rape is either "no big deal" or actually preferable is just a reflection of a general Japanese stigma that rape itself is...I won't say not important...but perhaps not incredibly serious.

    Of course we also know that rape games/hentai are not mainstream in the least. So I dunno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Oscuro View Post
    If only Japan's rape reporting rates were in line with other nations. It's likely been underreported for years. If a person is raped, it seems nobody gives a fuck.

    Don't just take it from me. Gender equality still has a way to go in Japan, but it does seem the situation is improving. Believe whatever suits your sense of justice, I guess.

    On the other hand, there was a paper correlating a surge in porno availability with a decrease in rape, here.
    Gender equality has a long way to go in America as well, so what's your point? There's a huge percentage of unreported rape in America too. No matter where you go in the world there's a lot of stigma about rape, and women often feel too ashamed of themselves to tell anybody about what happened. There was a story on my local news just a little while ago about a woman that got beaten and raped on the subway platform here in NYC, despite that she ran up the steps and was screaming at the MTA attendant in the booth to help. The guy just stared at her and did nothing. Well, he pressed a button that summons the police, but everything was long over by the time they came. That's their policy for what to do if something illegal is happening in the station - just stay in the booth. I think it's pretty messed up. The point is, there's really messed up stuff that happens everywhere.

    I didn't say one thing or the other about statistics. Just that there's this attitude that people have about Japan that is either "lol Japan" or "wow, Japan is so fucked up". The topic you linked to exemplifies that. I don't care about defending Japan, but people shouldn't encourage ignorance. The reality is that the Japanese are just as boring and ordinary as anybody else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Oscuro View Post
    If only Japan's rape reporting rates were in line with other nations. It's likely been underreported for years. If a person is raped, it seems nobody gives a fuck.

    Don't just take it from me. Gender equality still has a way to go in Japan, but it does seem the situation is improving. Believe whatever suits your sense of justice, I guess.

    On the other hand, there was a paper correlating a surge in porno availability with a decrease in rape, here.
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    Good post, sir.

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    I know. Who gives a shit about something relevant, like statistics, when you can be patronizing and accuse the other guy of being ethnocentric at once? What a coup!

    Here's a random quote from one of the articles that I may or may not have thought was germane to the discussion (I say that because apparently it's not having the desired impact):
    Japan's top government spokesman in 2003 was quoted as telling reporters in an off-the-record briefing that some women were asking to be raped by dressing provocatively -- a remark that outraged many but failed to dent his political clout.
    Indeed, the US has its problems - but if, say, Ari Fleischer or Scott McClellan had said such a thing, the door would've hit their ass before they knew they'd turned away from the podium.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie2B View Post
    I didn't say one thing or the other about statistics. Just that there's this attitude that people have about Japan that is either "lol Japan" or "wow, Japan is so fucked up".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Oscuro View Post
    I know. Who gives a shit about something relevant, like statistics, when you can be patronizing and accuse the other guy of being ethnocentric at once? What a coup!
    Dude, no need to act like I insulted your mother. I was talking about the general attitude that this topic was degrading into, not anything specifically about you. Let's try to keep the discussion intelligent and respectable, rather than having a bunch of people going "Japan is like this" and "Japan is like that" when they really don't know squat about the country and culture. And having the ability to look up a few articles on Google doesn't make any of us experts. I don't like it when foreigners (to me) make sweeping comments about America, so if we ever want the rest of the world to not see us as slack-jawed hillbillies, we can at least follow the golden rule and not cast generalizations on them.

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    This game looks bad now, but there probably will be even worse games in the future.

    RapeLay 2: Bestiality Edition
    "Cruise the neighbourhood looking for attractive pets and wildlife that suit your interest, lure them into your home and have your way with them all in detailed 3D. Or take a trip to local farms, zoos, aquariums...."


    Heck, something like that could be advertised as educational as lots of information could be given about the different types of animals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie2B View Post
    Let's try to keep the discussion intelligent and respectable, rather than having a bunch of people going "Japan is like this" and "Japan is like that" when they really don't know squat about the country and culture.
    So it's just a coincidence that your complaint about people going "lol, Japan" crops up when I make a well-supported (if academic) point? And I need to be told to keep the discussion intelligent, which isn't insulting in the least?

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    I downloaded it and it wont run on my pc

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    There's a joke or crude comment in there somewhere but I can't think of one right now.

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    Japan, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by squirrelnut View Post
    I downloaded it and it wont run on my pc
    Probably issues with Japanese language support. Install asian languages from your OS's disc and / or try using Applocale.

    Although really, it's not all that fun of a game. Artificial Girl / Sexy Beach are mildly more fun and considerably less rapeful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The 1 2 P View Post
    Thats not the kind of co-op I would prefer. But I guess some people like being the bitch.
    Well, I said Two Player Mode. I wouldn't really consider it COOPERATIVE play....

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    What's the point of banning this? It's almost impossible to get anyway. Not on Amazon, New Egg, Craigslist, or anywhere locally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zap! View Post
    What's the point of banning this? It's almost impossible to get anyway. Not on Amazon, New Egg, Craigslist, or anywhere locally.
    I got curious as I read this topic and I thought "well I'll just go get it on a japanese web store lol"

    ...

    The game has nearly tripled in price. It's about $250 now, wtf mate?!

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