Why would they want an infrared port on the front of the console and not have any out-of-the-box functionality for it? Doesn't that just drive up the cost of the machine to manufacture? I'm assuming that they were considering making remote control joysticks, but couldn't they have come up with a better solution than infrared?
Yeah, it kind of reminds me of that Game Boy Color infra-red port a bit.Originally Posted by Steve W
Depends on what you consider to be SEGA themselves. They have more arms than a centipede. I do not believe AtGames makes their own chips.
Many of you are wishing for a redux Genesis console that will render your current original systems obsolete. That has never been the intention nor would it make financial sense.
Compatibility is hard to test without a full library at my disposal. Once again if any of you are local to Southern California I'd be happy to show up at your house with a six-pack and the prototypes for testing.
There's a particular reason they demanded the system be called Firebox Diamond.
Firebox is a type of cartridge which is available in Asia. Some Firebox games have wireless motion capture controls and a special controller is needed. At this time we don't have plans to offer Firebox in America.
The only alternative I know to wireless infrared is radio frequency which is much more expensive.
Does that mean that it may never happen? Majesco came really close to 100% compatibility (sans a few games, like Virtua Racing, 32X and Sega CD specs). And the price was really economical.
Does that mean that we may never have a console that is as compatible as the before mentioned version?
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Yeah, Majesco did an awesome job with making the Genesis 3, and the fact that they can fit in Japanese carts is even better.
I always thought that the Majesco console used regular Genesis guts but had a slight problem preventing it from playing games like Disney's Gargoyles.
Yeah. I really loved the Genesis 3.
So if Majesco can do it, it IS possible.
I hope AtGames makes it as good as Majesco's. Because even though it's cool they are making new variations, if the same problem persists with every unit they make, eventually people will loose interest. And that is a serious nono for AtGames.
If AtGames can perfect the hardware (at least to the level the Genesis 3 was), then things would be awesome.
I will wait to see how it ends up. If it's better than previous efforts, I will pick one up. If not, I'll pass until they can get their act together.
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Speaking of compatible systems, a few clone systems did come close. Yobo FC3 Plus has a really high compatibility rate for Genesis games and is the best part about said system.
Hey, did now know that. Thanks for the info.
This is proof that it IS possible to have great compatibility. So it's no excuse if AtGames cannot deliver something of equal or better quality.
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Heck if I know, I'd have to ask Sega or AtGames.
I don't know about the more difficult to emulate games, but my FC3 Plus played any Genesis game I put in it. There were no sound glitches at all except on Sonic 3 & Knuckles. Did not try the games individually though. I hope these new Genesis systems are that good.
As long as they don't short circuit themselves in the middle of gameplay like my Pioneer LaserActive did while playing Sonic 3D Blast, I would also be happy. The smell of burning electronics is not pleasant. Luckily my Sonic 3D Blast cartridge was uninjured.
Good example of a clone gone wrong...
I still don't know if it was the core system's fault or if it was the Sega Module's fault in this case.
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I'm a collector, but only to a certain extent.
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Wait, what? Only google reference I could find is a site called Firebox which is an online retailer. No mention of game cartridges. And even so, this is made to play Sega Genesis games, so unless these Firebox cartridges are Genesis compatible, or the system is built with dual compatibility, then it's just deceptive naming.
Same here with the Firebox searching. A little information on that would be helpful (and I'd enjoy a good read).
I just realized what's going on here, I believe I was mistaken when I first saw this. Sega is licensing the Genesis spec to another company, and is providing the actual processing unit. Essentially, it's a licensed Geniclone/Clonedrive. In a very technical sense, Sega has re-entered the hardware business with a new revision of its most successful system. They've also done what Atari didn't have the balls to do, they're including a cartridge slot.
It's probably wishful thinking, but if there's any kind of widespread distribution of either unit, wouldn't it make sense to sell game carts for them? "Buy the system, then hit the thrift for games" isn't the most attractive marketing slogan. If someone has Genesis games that they want to play, they probably have a Genesis, along with several or most of the titles built into the new unit. If someone doesn't have any Genesis games, they're limited to the 20 pack-ins and whatever they can find second-hand.
Pricing is going to need to be darn competitive here, and I'd hate to see a $50+ tag hurt it. The fact that I can get 49 games on Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection for $30, which probably includes the 20 pack-ins, is going to be a bit of a hindrance to any high price point on this. Also, for $50, I could get a used Genesis on Ebay along with several games and controllers.
Perhaps most important, however, is video output. LCDs and HDTVs generally don't get along with 240p over composite or coax. Will it upscale to 480i, or have S-Video? Maybe a VGA port on the back? Again, probably wishful thinking, but it would be nice.
AtGames stuck a composite and mono audio output on their last console. The fact the Retro Duo even has s-video was rather strange. Upscaling? If it even plays carts with proper sound, that would be a miracle.
Sega isn't going to make new game cartridges and I doubt they have old stock leftover to sell. Except for maybe some old unwanted sports titles that might be taking up room, but they'd get more money sending those off for recycling. And they no doubt did that already. This is why they have games built-in.
I'm going to have to wait for reviews on either one. If AtGames puts the Twin Player guts into a new casing then there's going to be no need to buy this.
I have a Genesis and Nomad in perfect condition, but I'd definitely be interested if a Game Gear repro was ever done! Especially with AV out.
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I dont think the Game Gear will ever have a new clone release. The install base is just too small to justify it I think.
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It might be nice to see something like a GameGear console, as in, no screen and uses a Genesis pad. Call it the Retro Duo No-Longer-Portable and add GameBoy Color compatibility.
I doubt Nintendo would let a GameBoy clone be made yet. When do the patents run out on The GB and GBC? isnt it 20 years after release?
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