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    I have two units that went out Wednesday to ReviewTechUSA and Gamster81 on Youtube.
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    Just got mine in the mail yesterday. And overall, I think it's a decent upgrade.

    What's been upgraded:

    - Stereo! The console itself now sports two stereo speakers and has stereo/video out. It sounds crystal clear and can get loud without distortion.

    - D-pad! The unit now has an SNES style directional pad. Definitely an improvement, though you have to use a good amount of pressure to get things moving. I think I remember this being the case with the first version, and it's just a matter of sort of breaking it in. Diagonals can be tricky, but again, I think this is just a matter of breaking the directional pad in.

    - Build quality! In general this revision feels more solid all the way around. I'm not sure exactly what it is. Also, the top/display/cover now has this kind of translucent quality about it. It looks pretty cool and way less cheap than the original. The cartridge slot doesn't feel so mushy either.

    Even though the sturdiness of the console seemed improved, my unit did come out of the box with a very slight crack on the hinge and one dead pixel. Nothing major at all, but just annoying. I've already contact Stone Age Gamer and will probably be sending this back for a replacement once the charcoal models are back in stock.

    - Bigger L and R buttons! They are more than twice the size of the buttons on the original version and are definitely easier to use.

    - Power switch on side! I'd consider this an upgrade, as you no long have to open the console to power it up when it's hooked up to the TV.

    - Reset button actually resets! 'Nuff said!

    Other than that I haven't tried any of the claimed "greater compatibility," as I was pretty content with the compatibility before (all my games worked great).

    There were a couple of things that weren't perfect:

    - The headphone jack has a lot of hiss - though, oddly, the sound and music are still very clear. It just sounds like someone is taking a shower next to you while you're playing.

    - Overly-intense color saturation with video out. I had to adjust down the color on my TV as the video out seems to output a more intense color saturation. I especially noticed that white text and areas that should be flat white had a subtle rainbow like glow. I compared this to the version 1 I have and there was definitely a difference. This was almost completely remedied by adjusting the color down a little, so no biggie. I'd be inclined to say the video out quality is slightly more noisy (could this be from the stereo out?). Definitely not anything major, though.

    - There are still tabs in an attempt of some type of region lock-out. These could probably be easily clipped or sanded down to enable Super Famicom carts to be played - but it's just annoying that the tabs are there in the first place. I mean, who is this protecting? The only thing I can think of is that these tabs help stabilize the cartridge, which could be true.

    But all being said, I think if you liked the first version, this is a step up you definitely should consider. For about $60 I don't think you could beat this sort of value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAD PIXEL View Post
    Definitely an improvement, though you have to use a good amount of pressure to get things moving. I think I remember this being the case with the first version, and it's just a matter of sort of breaking it in.
    This may just be the deal breaker for me. That first dpad did need quite a bit of pressure to register and playing platformers was not very fun, in my opinion. I may still get it, but I'll wait until a special or discounted price.

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    You know, the more I play around with this thing, the more I like it. Makes me wonder what is around the corner with other projects that may come from some of the other clone companies . . . I'd love a 2600 portable of this quality.

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    Is it true the onboard d-pad is easier to use after you've played with it a while? Or, was this a problem for you at all, T2K?

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    I have heard it is, but I am not sure if its because of breaking it in or just because you get better at using it. IMO the d-pad isn't really any better than the original. I have no problem playing most games, but I have a hard time with fighters with the built-in d-pad.
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    Why don't you use the wireless pad's instead of the embedded dpad?

    @StoneAgeGamer: I bought an fc16go from you. I only use it as TVOut Device and play with the wireless controllers.

    A new Device possible?
    But what i really want is an Device that is as small as the Fc16go, has Wireless support for up to 4 wireless Controllers and an highend TV-out (Component, Scart RGB, HDMI). Also support for SFC Carts (without mod) and support for Lockout Chips PAL/NTSC. (just because also with mod, i can't play most of my SFC carts, just because the pal lockout :-( which is really sad).

    I don't need an LCD or an DPad.

    ps: the snes powerpak works fine with fc16go rev.1 ...you can even save with the bad reset button by pressing the Power Button (hold down) and then the Reset Button. If you release the Reset Button the Console resets fine or you can save with your Powerpak.

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    I use the wireless pad on my first edition fc go, but would like to use it as a portable instead of a laptop. I'll wait for another revision or a competitor's product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz2001 View Post
    Why don't you use the wireless pad's instead of the embedded dpad?

    @StoneAgeGamer: I bought an fc16go from you. I only use it as TVOut Device and play with the wireless controllers.

    A new Device possible?
    But what i really want is an Device that is as small as the Fc16go, has Wireless support for up to 4 wireless Controllers and an highend TV-out (Component, Scart RGB, HDMI). Also support for SFC Carts (without mod) and support for Lockout Chips PAL/NTSC. (just because also with mod, i can't play most of my SFC carts, just because the pal lockout :-( which is really sad).

    I don't need an LCD or an DPad.

    ps: the snes powerpak works fine with fc16go rev.1 ...you can even save with the bad reset button by pressing the Power Button (hold down) and then the Reset Button. If you release the Reset Button the Console resets fine or you can save with your Powerpak.
    I doubt there will be a clone that comes out with 4 wireless controller support. As for high-end TV-outs, I doubt you will see that either. It costs extra and 95% of customers are fine with just composite. There is just not enough demand for them to bother with it. I do know a company is working on a new clone that is to compete with the FC3 that does have some neat new features. I doubt it will be as small as an FC-16 though.

    Remember, when you want a new clone with all these amazing features put yourself in a company's shoes. How much will it cost to develop? How much will it cost to sell? How many people will buy it for X dollars? If you start doing this you will begin to see why clones are often cheap Chinese products. its because a high quality clone would not sell. Same reason why you probably won't see a 32X clone or some other system that does not have a huge library. Its just not practical to mass produce such an item for such a niche market.
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    Thanks all correct. But the things i mentioned are not that expensive.

    +4 Controller Support (...you can sell the 2 other Controllers separately = more money)
    +Scart RGB TV-out (even the old SNES has this feature!)
    +SFC support MOD (thats very easy, you just don't need to add it)

    -remove LCD (it gets cheeper)
    -remove DPAD and Controls (it gets cheeper)

    So..where is the Problem? It's cheaper to produce and cheaper to sell. More people would buy it, just because the FC16go is even too big to take it with you. Therefore i use a Dingoo a320 ;-).


    only optional:
    +Composite (or even higher qual. with HDMI)
    +Lockout chips PAL/NTSC incl. switch
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    I am just telling you from my experience. Scart RGB or HDMI is not a big selling point to the majority of people who buy clones.

    Most people who buy clones are casual classic gamers or people who just want to play Super Mario again. Many hardcore classic gamers I have met do not like clones and some even loath them.

    I agree with you on the SFC thing, I think its just stupid that Yobo does this. They do it on the FC Twin as well.

    I would love to see the things you suggested and many more, but after dealing with these companies and these systems for 3 years now I can tell you its most likely not going to happen. Retro gaming stuff is not these companies primary business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneAgeGamer View Post
    I do know a company is working on a new clone that is to compete with the FC3 that does have some neat new features. I doubt it will be as small as an FC-16 though.
    I like the idea of an FC3 competitor, especially if it uses wireless controllers. However, the one thing I really do like about the RetroDuo is the S-Video output for SNES games. I think the only thing that might convince me to shelve my RetroDuo is if this new machine includes S-Video as well, so I hope that feature is included in this new machine.

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    Hmmm that revision is looking pretty awesome...but it still looks bulky. I really have no need for a TV out fuction at all seeing as how I own a real SNES. Maybe a competitor will make something similar without that function and it will be cheaper like say 40 bucks or something.
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    @StoneAgeGamer: Ok i understand :-(. I'm also a retro fan and i have an Snes but i also have an 47" lcd and i love the Wireless Controllers of the FC16go.

    I hope some day we will have a real good clone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retro junkie View Post
    If there ever is a PCE clone, I'll be standing in line for one.
    I know I'm quoting this late, but... Holy geez, yes, especially if it has a region switch (but if not, I suppose I'd try to find a Japanese market model). PC Engines seem to cost so much, especially if you want output other than RF.

    Otherwise, I'm not too excited about these clones.

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    Well, I did end up getting the revision console. Works very well. The on board dpad is better than the original, but still doesn't register the button presses every time. The left and right work fine, but the top and bottom don't work EVERY time. Still, I'm quite happy with the new version. May need to look into getting that higher capacity battery.

    Any other PowerPack results? I'm thinking of buying one sooner or later.....

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    I just learned about this "portable" last week and cannot believe I missed this coming out. I am ready to get one when StoneAgeGamer get's more in stock (you are SO highly recommended and seem like such a great retailer!), but was wondering how the Revision 2 version was holding up for those that own one?

    Any problems or is does it still hold up well?

    Also, there was a lot of mention from various people that the d-pad would probably be better once it was broken in, anyone experience this?

    Cannot wait! Wished I would have held off on my RetroGen and got this instead.

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    Mine is still going strong. The d-pad really isn't a problem on the new revision. I got one from StoneAgeGamer that had a crooked screen protector. I peeled that back and put it on straight. The only problem is that the corners peel up a bit in between uses. I just run my finger back over it to stick it back. Once and a while, I'll get some dust in the protector that I have to blow out. Nothing major.

    Screen is still not the best, but don't let that stop you from getting one. Chances are, you won't notice any problems, or, if you do, you'll get used to it very soon and it won't bother you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickerous View Post
    Mine is still going strong. The d-pad really isn't a problem on the new revision. I got one from StoneAgeGamer that had a crooked screen protector. I peeled that back and put it on straight. The only problem is that the corners peel up a bit in between uses. I just run my finger back over it to stick it back. Once and a while, I'll get some dust in the protector that I have to blow out. Nothing major.

    Screen is still not the best, but don't let that stop you from getting one. Chances are, you won't notice any problems, or, if you do, you'll get used to it very soon and it won't bother you.
    Thanks so much for the response! Can't wait to order mine now!

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    Ordered one of these from Stone Age Gamer, it shipped this morning. I'm quite excited to try this puppy out. I'm going to Toronto in August and will be taking my FC16 and a copy of Earthbound and perhaps Chrono Trigger. Looking forward to the strange looks I'll get on the plane. Probably tell them it's the latest handheld from Nintendo, lightyears beyond DS technology!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PFCHudson View Post
    Ordered one of these from Stone Age Gamer, it shipped this morning. I'm quite excited to try this puppy out. I'm going to Toronto in August and will be taking my FC16 and a copy of Earthbound and perhaps Chrono Trigger. Looking forward to the strange looks I'll get on the plane. Probably tell them it's the latest handheld from Nintendo, lightyears beyond DS technology!
    I ordered one from Stone Age Gamer last night as well. I cannot wait to relive some non-emulated memories. I still remember staying up late at night when I travelled overseas and playing SFII and NHL 95 until the early morning. I'm rebuying all of the old games I used to have and have a list of ones I never got to play.

    What are the chances it shows up tomorrow... I can only dream!

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    Well, my system came in today (thanks SO much Stone Age Gamer, you are amazing!).

    I was so excited until and could not wait to see Super Mario World light up the screen. Flipped on the unit and the first thing I noticed was a blue stuck pixel. Okay, not too bad, blends in okay, not so noticeable. I played for a second and noticed something that looked like dark smudges on the screen. Thinking it was just the protective plastic on top, I cleaned it gently and flipped the unit back on. Still there! It appears as though the smudges are actually under the LCD if that makes any sense! They are not deal breakers, but definitely something I notice while playing.

    Other than that, the system is fairly decent, but no where near as robust or quality built as a "real" manufactured portable.

    Oh well, that's the price to pay for a generic console. It makes me appreciate my other systems more.

    Again, thanks a million to Stone Age Gamer for the extremely great service. Also, I LOVE the packaging tape on the box! I had heard about it, but it's so cool to see in person.

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    If your happy, that's fine. But if I were you, I'd return it for a replacement.

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    Yeah, I don't have any stuck pixels or smudges on my screen. It's a little blurry at times, but no where near the problems you are describing.

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