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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomerRaid View Post
    [B]I can't say that SF4 is the most balanced game thus far. I could say that Third Strike (SF3:3S) is possibly in a level higher than SF4 due to the many factors of the game, including footies, mindgames, character balance (yes, any character can beat any character- you just have to play smart and learn the matchups inside and out just like almost every 2D fighting game out there...)
    I'm not sure I agree. Third Strike is an awesome game, and high level players like Renic (and his crazy Alex) can take low tier characters to great places, but every Evo and SBO, you see the same characters finishing top eight: Chun, Yun, Ken, Dudley, and Makoto. Kuroda's Q doesn't count, on the grounds that Kuroda isn't actually human. That says a lot about the balance of the game right there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoltor View Post
    Now, generally who gives a shit about the street fighter story right, but something really bothered me in SF IV.

    Dan(you know, one of the crappiest char ever made)is suppose to be Sakura's Sensei, is this some kind of joke or were the devs high when they wrote that?

    Dan Sakura's master, what an insult, not to mention it makes no sense what so ever(they have completely different styles, lol if you can even call what Dan does, a Style).

    To DreamTR: Oh ok.
    Dan isn't really her sensei. It's a joke referencing Dan's delusions of grandeur.
    Dan likes to think the other street fighters that he befriends(sakura, blanka, maybe others) are his students.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kedawa View Post
    Dan isn't really her sensei. It's a joke referencing Dan's delusions of grandeur.
    Dan likes to think the other street fighters that he befriends(sakura, blanka, maybe others) are his students.
    Oh ok thanks, I figured it must be a bad joke(not to mention he was more full of him self, then usual), but there was no real proof of it.

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    Boomer: That's a definite negative. There are only 5 top level characters in 3s. Yun, Chun-Li, Ken, Urien, and Makoto. Everyone else has to work WAY too hard.

    The parry system takes out a lof anti-airs in general, and you build meter by just pressing normals. Not sure why that is a good idea, but in terms of overall "balance" SF4 is way more balanced overall than 3s.

    I mean, you're talking about how these characters can compete, but in tournaments it's really only those 5.

    Yun Genei Jin? . I mean, I can't think of anything in SF4 that is that overpowered.

    Also, Alpha 3 Gief even combowise is nothing like SF4 Gief. That game require a completely different set of normals used, anti airs, not to mention even the glove.

    EDIT: Everything G Boobie said I agree with. The game just has a lot of problems, and you can basically tech throws ALL day almost, way more than SF4. High level play 3s = not so much for balance.

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    Hey DreamTR, you going to CGE this year? I recall we have unfinished business from last time around in Hyper Fighting...
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    lol, weren't there like 6 chun-li's in the top 8 3s slots at EVO 2k8
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    A big red Turkish guy called Hakan.

    I used to work with a rather large Turkish guy who would get mad and turn red. His name was Hakan. I remember him saying one day that Hakan is a rather common name in Turkey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Famidrive-16 View Post
    lol, weren't there like 6 chun-li's in the top 8 3s slots at EVO 2k8
    Yeah. That particular DVD was pretty boring: two dudes fishing for low forward into super for something like two hours. Ugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamTR View Post
    Boomer: That's a definite negative. There are only 5 top level characters in 3s. Yun, Chun-Li, Ken, Urien, and Makoto. Everyone else has to work WAY too hard.

    The parry system takes out a lof anti-airs in general, and you build meter by just pressing normals. Not sure why that is a good idea, but in terms of overall "balance" SF4 is way more balanced overall than 3s.

    I mean, you're talking about how these characters can compete, but in tournaments it's really only those 5.

    Yun Genei Jin? . I mean, I can't think of anything in SF4 that is that overpowered.

    Also, Alpha 3 Gief even combowise is nothing like SF4 Gief. That game require a completely different set of normals used, anti airs, not to mention even the glove.

    EDIT: Everything G Boobie said I agree with. The game just has a lot of problems, and you can basically tech throws ALL day almost, way more than SF4. High level play 3s = not so much for balance.
    I agree with everything except I would say there are six high-tier characters in 3S; the five you mentioned, plus Dudley. His target combos and cr. HK juggle shenanigans really put him above the other upper-mid tier characters.

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    ubersaurus, yes, I will be at CGE..

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    So Capcom announced officially that Super SF4 is coming out to arcades. Kind of saw this one coming, but hell, at least it's official. The question is, will they actually let you do versus with one board? Because that's the only way any arcade outside of the west coast is gonna get the game.
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    I'm a sucker for SF yet I AM the WORST SF player ever. I think I'm doing it wrong.
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    Any word if Poison is in this version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Warrior View Post
    So is Hakan a new character or is he from some other Capcom game? I've never heard of him before.

    Leave it to the Japanese to make something as stupidly weird as a fighter who lubes himself up and rubs other fighters all over his body. Not really a fan.
    I guess you don't know much about the history of wrestling then? It's not an original idea, he's based on a Turkish oil wrestler. I find characters who can produce fireballs from their bare hands to be weirder.

    I can't wait to try out Hakan! I'm guessing a character from Turkey won't get much love in America though!

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    I AM the WORST SF player ever. I think I'm doing it wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimi Nakamura View Post
    I guess you don't know much about the history of wrestling then? It's not an original idea, he's based on a Turkish oil wrestler. I find characters who can produce fireballs from their bare hands to be weirder.

    I can't wait to try out Hakan! I'm guessing a character from Turkey won't get much love in America though!
    Speak for yourself, he looks like a lot of fun! I don't think there'll be a whole lot of people familiar with oil wrestling, but there's always a lot of people down to pick the weirdo characters in Street Fighter :P

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    That's a title I'd be willing to challenge
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    I sold SF4 but for being able to get it for 39.99 with a $10 credit, I'm willing to pick it up again.

    I know G Boobie is going to get both versions, is there anyone else good that's going to get the PS3 version? Need good players to practice(lose) against.
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    Well, my friend has a modded X-Box, and I actually got to play it. I mostly used Adon and Guy, since I'm really interested in checking them out. Some quick notes.

    - SFIV's easy inputs forces out Adon's Jaguar Tooth instead of Jaguar Kick sometimes for me. I gotta clean up my stick usage, but this is the first case in which easy inputs hurt me.

    - Adon may not have a ton of links, but his damage output makes up for it. He's definitely a strong character.

    - Guy's flip throw does a ton of damage. Also, he has some nice blockstrings and links that will make him viable.

    - Guy's mixup game is pretty awesome.

    - Guile seems to be faster overall as a character. His walkspeed seemed a little faster, and his knee bazooka is pretty fast. Guile definitely isn't same ol Guile.

    - As many people noted, counter ultras are useless. However, they do force your opponent to think about them. People I faced thought twice about mashing that option select during blockstrings.

    - If you get hit on the way up to the wall with Vega when doing Bloody High Claw, it still takes away your ultra meter XD

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