Mine just has some lame maze gameOriginally Posted by todesengel
Mine just has some lame maze game
"Game programmers are generally lazy individuals. That's right. It's true. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Since the dawn of computer games, game programmers have looked for shortcuts to coolness." Kurt Arnlund - Game programmer for Activision, Accolade...
That game is not lame! It's my claim to fame! Between you and me, it puts Sonic to shame!Mine just has some lame maze game
Seriously, I once was extremely addicted and skilled at the SMS maze game. I'm afraid to play it again... It won't be pretty.
Last edited by ShinobiMan; 03-19-2010 at 09:05 AM.
Well, when I was hoping for something better and instead got something I could have programmed myself in Jr. High, I was a little disappointed. It did, however, give me the opportunity to test the system before I had any games, which most systems don't do.
"Game programmers are generally lazy individuals. That's right. It's true. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Since the dawn of computer games, game programmers have looked for shortcuts to coolness." Kurt Arnlund - Game programmer for Activision, Accolade...
I'll echo the sentiment that getting a 1st model Genesis and the Power Base Converter is your best bet for Master System gaming. Access to the full Genesis library, and nearly all of the SMS library with a minimum of space and power supplies! Just make sure it's a 1st model genny - PBC doesn't fit on the 2nd without some case modding.
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I've got a Master System. I enjoy it. But, compared to a lot of my other consoles, it's effin' huge. It's roughly the size of the Model 1 Genesis.
If you want my opinion, I'd say you should get a Genesis and the Power Base Converter. I actually don't have a PBC, but I do know I'd use it if I did. The only game, to my knowledge, that won't work with the PBC is F-16 Fighting Falcon, one of the Sega Cards. It's not that good a game and I doubt you'd want to play it too much.
But, like InsaneDavid said, you should definitely try and snag a SMS controller if you get a PBC, because games like Wonder Boy In Monster Land and Alien Syndrome won't work on the PBC without it.
Also, PAL SMS games can be played on NTSC consoles. The carts are identical, for the most part. I got a copy of Desert Speedtrap from Play N Trade and I didn't even know it was a PAL copy until I looked it up online.
^ Same here. I bought Ultima IV w/o realizing it was an EU exclusive. There's a few cool EU games, and considering how small the SMS library is, it's worth it to track em down.
Like a few others have said, you're better off with a Genesis and PCB combo. I strongly advice against getting a JP SMS because the FM chip in it really isn't that great. The only example I can think of where it sounds better is the BIOS screen which has a Space Harrier theme remix using both the FM and PSG chips. No actual games did this though.
Good games:
Wonder Boy III
Alex Kidd in Miracle World & Shinobi World
Fantasy Zone 2
Land of Illusion
Castle of Illusion
Phantasy Star
Solomon's Key
R-Type
Shinobi
Golvellius: Valley of Doom
Kenseiden
Power Strike 2
Lucky Dime Caper starring Donald Duck
Bubble Bobble
Sonic the Hedgehog (avoid the sequels though)
Zillion
Ninja Gaiden
Jurassic Park
Asterix
Montezuma's Revenge
Choplifter
Penguin Land (this one requires an SMS joypad)
Road Rash
Enduro Racer (JP version has more levels)
Rambo: First Blood Part 2
Deep Duck Trouble
Renegade
Super Space Invaders
Wimbledon 2
The Ninja
Space Harrier 3D
Outrun 3D
Missile Defense 3D
Pit Pot / Astro Warrior
Lightgun:
Gangster Town
Laser Ghost
Rescue Mission
Trap Shooting / Safari Hunt
Most games are very inexpensive, even the best ones. Power Strike 2 is one exception, but it's worth it.
I love the sms, although to be far the bulk of the great games released for the system where released outside of america, check out this thread for some ideas:
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1484
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I always end up recommending the first Asterix, The New Zealand Story, and Ninja Gaiden (hey, I like the SMS version!) but I'm pretty sure all 3 are PAL exclusives.
There is also the problem of finding a PBC, in my experience they're a lot rarer than an SMS.
Who thinks Ninja Gaiden sms is bad? the master system version is fantastic!
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I have a model 1 Genesis with model 1 Sega CD and PBC attached. If I want to play 32X games, I just take off the PBC and swap two av cables. Pretty convenient. Genesis is the way to go.
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Yeah, I agree with many here that the Genesis is definitely the system to get. Genesis systems are easy to find and cheap, while SMS systems will cost more and are much rarer. Genesis games are extremely common and are, I would say, probably the cheapest overall of any system from the third generation or beyond. Genesis games just aren't expensive; even NES games often cost more, and SNES games usually do. On the other hand, while SMS games aren't too expensive, they're fairly uncommon unless you import from Europe, so finding more won't be easy. Many games, including all SMS games released between mid 1991 and the system's final releases in 1995 or so, are also Europe-only releases. Meanwhile the Genesis has a huge library of good, interesting games that are easy to find.
I mean, sure, the SMS is a decent system with some good games. But compared to the Genesis? There's no question which is better, and which is more worth having.
And of course, model 1 Genesises ("High Resolution Graphics" model 1 Genesies are the best kind to get, anyway, for the best graphics and sound) can use the Power Base Converter to play SMS games right on your Genesis... if all you can find is a model 2 though go ahead and get it, Genesises aren't hard to find or expensive so just pick up a High Resolution Graphics model when you can if you like it. I actually like the look of the model 2 better, particularly with the model 2 Sega CD attached to it, but any of them are good, really. Yes, the earlier model 1s have better sound, but while it is worse the sound from model 2s isn't THAT bad... just not quite as good.
Last edited by A Black Falcon; 03-23-2010 at 01:35 PM.
JP SMS does have the extra SG-1000 support, though. I feel it's worth it for that and the alternate versions of Black Belt and Enduro Racer at least (I may be biased since I found a JP SMS bundled with a bunch of cart only SMS and SG-1000 games (I think about 18 games), including Enduro Racer, Zaxxon SG-1000, Final Bubble Bobble, Phantasy Star, and Hotuko no Ken). Then again, the colors are a bit off, but it's also a way to play them in composite rather than RF. I also like how most US/EU games work with it when using an adapter, including a few US/EU only games with FM sound like Time Soldiers.
Nice list. I'll like to add that a the games listed as requiring the SMS joypad work with Genesis controllers in JP mode, oddly enough. It's the same results on a PBC with a region switched Genesis or a JP SMS. No FM sound on the PBC, but I found that to be an advantage with some games (I like the FM sound for many of them, though).Good games:
Wonder Boy III
Alex Kidd in Miracle World & Shinobi World
Fantasy Zone 2
Land of Illusion
Castle of Illusion
Phantasy Star
Solomon's Key
R-Type
Shinobi
Golvellius: Valley of Doom
Kenseiden
Power Strike 2
Lucky Dime Caper starring Donald Duck
Bubble Bobble
Sonic the Hedgehog (avoid the sequels though)
Zillion
Ninja Gaiden
Jurassic Park
Asterix
Montezuma's Revenge
Choplifter
Penguin Land (this one requires an SMS joypad)
Road Rash
Enduro Racer (JP version has more levels)
Rambo: First Blood Part 2
Deep Duck Trouble
Renegade
Super Space Invaders
Wimbledon 2
The Ninja
Space Harrier 3D
Outrun 3D
Missile Defense 3D
Pit Pot / Astro Warrior
Lightgun:
Gangster Town
Laser Ghost
Rescue Mission
Trap Shooting / Safari Hunt
Most games are very inexpensive, even the best ones. Power Strike 2 is one exception, but it's worth it.
Here's some more that I like:
Bomber Raid (requires SMS pad in US mode, but fine with Genesis pad in JP mode)
Captain Silver (JP or EU, US one is badly cut down)
California Games (actually has pretty good FM too)
Double Dragon
Fantasy Zone
Fantasy Zone the Maze/Opa Opa
Gain Ground
Great Baseball (US, don't have the JP one, which is different)
Hang On
Hotuko no Ken (I like this better than the Black Belt version)
Marble Madness
Missile Defense 3D (light gun)
OutRun
Psycho Fox
Quartet/Double Target
Rambo III (light gun)
Rampage (for 2p)
Shooting Gallery (light gun)
Space Harrier
Time Soldiers
Wonder Boy
Wonder Boy in Monster Land
World Gran Prix/The Circuit
Zaxxon 3D
Last edited by Brianvgplayer; 03-23-2010 at 02:26 PM.
I'm sure this has been listed before, but the PBC manual says these US titles require a SMS pad:
Great Volleyball
Shanghai
Alien Syndrome
Wonder Boy in Monster Land
Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?
Bomber Raid
Also, there are PBC revisions that work on a model 2 Genesis/MD, along with Tototek's PBC that will also work with Mark III games.
What store do you have close by??
I'm aware of those games, but I have a modded Genesis 1 and a Japanese SMS with Tototek SMS-Mark III adapter. It may sound like odd to you that Bomber Raid, Penguin Land, and Wonder Boy in Monster Land (I don't have the others, so I can't confirm them) are playable in Japanese mode with a Genesis controller when the Genesis controller won't work with the games in English mode, but this comes from personal experience with playing the games.
Other games that have problems with the Genesis controller in English mode (I have yet to confirm these for JP mode, aside from Penguin Land) that aren't on the list:
Montezuma's Revenge
Tennis Ace
Penguin Land
Are you asking me? I have done most of my SMS ordering online at places like ebay, Blue Rose Video Games, and eStarland. I have found a place about 30-45 minutes away called Power Gamer in Glen Burnie, but they only had a couple SMS games. The pricing is very strange there too. I recently scored a complete Shooting Gallery there for about $3.99, though.What store do you have close by??
Last edited by Brianvgplayer; 03-26-2010 at 02:21 PM.
I didn't post that implying you were incorrect, but only as a list that was on the official documentation since all previous posts only mentioned Penguin Land.
Has anyone determined what the technical reason is behind those games working in J mode?
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