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Wow that's crazy.I am also eying a samsung flat screen 16inch crt and have a 13inch curved screen panasonic coming this week.Have you owned any other crt's besides that rca tv?before i had acquired my current 3 crt's we had a nice 20inch panasoni crt that lasted 20 years before dieng in 2005.I am extremely glad my saturn light gun works with all 3 of my crt's.
At this point, tuners are pretty useless, so I'd choose a monitor over a television.
If you don't mind small screens, pick up a Commodore 1084s if you see one for a reasonable price.
I've been using one since the late 80's, and I've always been happy with it.
It doesn't support component obviously, but composite, s-video, and RGB are really all you need.
Being able to adjust the screen geometry is also really nice.
If you want to go a little larger, the Sony BVM/PVM line is excellent, or so I've been told.
As far as really large CRTs go, the type of monitors that used to be used in airports and bus terminals are really nice, if you can find one. Most of the surplus supply of them dried up years ago.
So, what would you guys say are the best CRT manufacturers other than Sony? I'm looking to get rid of my oversized TV and get one more suitable for my living area. I don't see anything decent around me besides a silver Sanyo set with side-mounted speakers.
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I've got a 27" Samsung from the early 2000s that I use for most of my retro gaming. It's old enough to still be SD, but new enough to have component/S-Video/RCA jacks and looks really nice for what I use it for.
"besides Sony"
Why even bother? Sony is king as far as CRTs go, and if you're buying used (which is sorta your only option for SD tubes), why not just get a Sony and have what'll be best for the purpose PLUS last damn near forever?
I actually don't see very many Sony CRTs when I go hunting. The other brands I do see have been a crapshoot. I have a very nice Samsung, and a very BAD Samsung. The one I'm using now is a 13" flat Toshiba, but I'd love to find a bigger one once I have a place to put it other than my desk. I'd go for a Sony given the chance, but there doesn't seem to be a very solid suggested 2nd choice even with the age of this thread.
When I was a kid, I used a 22~27" JVC which I remember had a very good picture. A bit too much overscan, but it served me well until it got all demagnetized and the color warped just a few years ago.
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fucking awesome... so glad to see this thread still going after 2 years.. well it kinda fell asleep for the last 2
Anyhow, Sony is king for CRT. Keep looking, you will find them.
If you look back through this thread from around 2 years ago.. I was in love with the idea of finding a Sony XBR-200... well, wouldn't ya know.. about 6 months ago I finally found one near my house!
I've been humping it ever since.
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I'm looking for a 24". 20" is a bit small for me, and 27" is a bit big. I currently DO have a 36" Trinitron that has component inputs, and it's too large for my living space. I'm trying to downsize, and 24" seems perfect. I don't see any Sony 24" TV's where I am, only every other size. I guess a 27" would be okay, but a bit heavy to move if I needed to.
Elsewise, the Sony TV I have has trouble with different shades of off-black. In dark scenes of games, you can't tell what's going on. You have to turn the brightness up so high it starts to drown out the colors. I do love their VM edge-enhancement, however. With component and edge-enhancement, the picture is almost indistinguishable from 480p.
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It really depends on what kind of tube you want (I hate aperture grill screens with a passion), but Panasonic and JVC made some great televisions, and Sony probably made the best of the best.
I would have never recommended Sony CRTs when they were still on store shelves because of their dubious reliability, but anything that's still kicking today will probably last for a very long time.
I'm in the process of moving into a new condo and the last owner left two rather large CRTs. One is a 36" RCA and the other is a 27" Toshiba VCR combo, both curved tubes. The RCA either needs a serious adjustment or it just has unacceptable overscan and geometry issues. The Toshiba, however, looks excellent. I brought my RetroDuo over and played some Mega Man 6 to confirm the Toshiba didn't have bad overscan. What sucks is that neither have S-Video or Component from what I can tell.
Now I have TWO great Toshibas (the other being my flat 13"), and I'll report back how it works out with the RCA. At the moment, I am very unimpressed with the RCA, despite it's gargantuan size.
I use a 36" Sony Trinitron from about 2005. It's a silver one with speakers on the bottom, not the side, and has the typical component and s-video inputs. The thing about Trinitron TVs is they have a feature called VM (volumetric modulation) which enhances the picture quality. Other than a bit of jitter, the quality when using component with VM enabled is virtually transparent to 480p, and maybe 720p. It's really the best way to play anything that can't do progressive scan. The only problem with the TV, is it has trouble showing dark colors. Everything looks black, even after tinkering with the video settings.
Oh yeah, it is heavy. Just barely got it home.
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I have one in good condition with the stand. If anyone is in the San Francisco Bay Area and is interested, send me a message on the board.
This monitor is awesome for retro gaming. Pixel perfect and lag free at 32"
If it has knobs your heading in the right direction.
For me, the Samsung GXE1395 hits the spot for retro gaming in general. This is the one that was marketed as a gaming TV back in the 90's, with the fold out speakers. Its two drawbacks are small screen size (13") and lack of S-Video inputs, though with the small size it would be difficult to tell a difference between composite and S-Video anyway. It works well as a desktop setup for anything SNES and earlier.
You mean the GXTV? Doesn't it have colour distortion from the speakers?
The best television to play nes games on would be the Nintendo Sharp television. It is a 20 inch CRT television with a built in nes. I really can't stand playing retro games on a HDTV and prefer to play on older televisions but thats just me.
"Velocity modulation" is not desirable. It thickens all dark lines on the screen. Put up a test pattern and adjust the VM settings. You will easily see the black lines grow in size while light lines get thinner. It was intended to be used on composite connections, which often have edges that are too soft. VM should be off for s-video or component connections, along with the sharpness setting turn relatively low, if not at minimum.