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    Where is the PSP Go on this list? The system is a massive failure. Has Sony even released haw many consoles have sold yet? Gameboy Micro has to be there too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dendawg View Post
    Not quite. Adam killed Colecovision, but not Coleco itself. They had Cabbage Patch Kids to fall back on.
    Yeah, Coleco even ran a promotion in which you got a free CPK if you bought an Adam. Well gee, if anything would ever encourage a family to get off the fence and finally decide to buy a computer, a free doll would surely be high on the list. Sigh.

    Actually, I still maintain to this day that this promotion should have been the other way around...my God, the Adam was horrible beyond words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agent57 View Post
    Actually, I still maintain to this day that this promotion should have been the other way around...my God, the Adam was horrible beyond words.
    Come now, that daisy wheel printer was awesome, especially compared to the dot-matrix printers of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T2KFreeker View Post
    Where is the PSP Go on this list? The system is a massive failure. Has Sony even released haw many consoles have sold yet? Gameboy Micro has to be there too.
    Gameboy Micro isn't its own system though (just another version). PSP Go is a pretty big change in media/format of the original.
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    I think the 3DO could also be considered a massive failure. In regards to expectations and the effect it had on it's name-holding company.
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    I also remembered the Magnavox Odyssey 2. That idn't tie over too well for the company that sold it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonicwolf View Post
    I think the 3DO could also be considered a massive failure. In regards to expectations and the effect it had on it's name-holding company.
    In my eyes, it's a complete failure. 3DO was a joke BITD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonicwolf View Post
    The Jaguar killed Atari's already damaged reputation AND ruined the company once and for all. I would have to say, because of that, the Jaguar is the single biggest company-affecting failure in the industry, ever.
    The Dreamcast killed Sega's already damaged reputation AND ruined the company once and for all. I would have to say, because of that, the Dreamcast is the sing biggest company-affecting failure in hte industry, ever.


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    I wanna say the NUON, but that was less of a game system and more of a DVD player.

    nthing the 3DO. They took a powerful machine and spent it's years showcasing crappy FMV games. Such a waste for something that could've been so much better.
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    Good topic, great debate and a number of solid statements thus far. My two cents.

    Company\Brand Killers
    o Amiga CD32 - was the last straw that drove Commodore into bankruptcy
    o NUON Technology - Great idea, but see you VM Labs (bankruptcy 2001)
    o RDI Halcyon - Goodnight to RDI Video Systems
    o Atari Jaguar - The last nail in the coffin for this once proud brand\leader in the industry

    I won't go on to mention th numerous commercial failures that did not result in the collapse of an organization (Memorex VIS, Bandai Pippin, Casio PV-1000, etc.). That is probably fodder for a new topic.
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    Bandai was about to be bought by Sega because of their failure with the Pippin, but then they came out with the Tamagotchi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poofta! View Post
    The Dreamcast killed Sega's already damaged reputation AND ruined the company once and for all. I would have to say, because of that, the Dreamcast is the sing biggest company-affecting failure in hte industry, ever.

    The Dreamcast wasn't reviewed in general as a complete piece of shit throughout its short tenure in the industry. The Jaguar, however, was. The Dreamcast was a great system that was attached to a company that put tons of effort into a new console at too late a time. The Dreamcast has a considerable library of excellent titles also.
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    I think there are three types of failures.

    1. I would put systems like Colecovision, 5200, Dreamcast in the same category. Good systems with potential though some flaws, but ruined by a series of bad decisions/actions by the company.

    2. Systems like the 32X, Jaguar, 3DO, Astrocade, might have had potential, but the games mostly were hideous, and were laughed off the shelves.

    3. Systems that either had terrible hardware, poor concepts, or absurd pricing that would never allowed for success. Odyssey 2, Neo Geo, Amiga CD32, VirtualBoy.

    Konix Multisystem, Halcyon, Nuon, somebody said the M2. I'd barely even qualify those as actual systems. If the system doesn't get released or sold in mass, it's not much more than a prototype.
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    Quote Originally Posted by agent57 View Post
    Actually, I still maintain to this day that this promotion should have been the other way around...my God, the Adam was horrible beyond words.
    Lies, lies, lies.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSinFyg6Y5Q

    whys the Adam get so much shit man
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    I thought Adam (and Coleco) failed because they were giving 500 dollar scholarship with every purchase: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PysRX8DQp0 fast foward to about 55 seconds.
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    In sega's case, Both the Saturn and the Dreamcast did pretty well in Japan as opposed to say the Original Xbox which would be considered a failure there. Here in Australia, The NES and SNES and the N64 where all quite big, where as both the 32x and Saturn are still the least likely 2nd hand game's/systems to be found. It's not uncommon to come across DC stuff though. Australia is an extremely small part of the Market, though many of these failures are territorially based imho.

    The 3do was a universal Failure, The need for speed and road rash where an attraction but the price was ridiculous.


    Many of the other failures, Mainly Atari, Only reached the shores here in limited quantity or not at all.

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    You know, I loved the Dreamcast. I thought it was an awesome console with tons of great games.

    I wonder if things would have been different if:

    a) it didn't suffer from the rampant piracy so early on in its life cycle?
    b) they had better controllers and memory cards developed for it?
    c) if they did have a built-in DVD player? They had thought about including it.
    d) EA developed games for it?
    e) Sega hadn't destroyed their customer base with their prior gaffes?

    It's too bad. It was a bad omen when they were lowering the price of the DC so soon after release. It didn't deserve to be branded as a failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkhan View Post
    Lies, lies, lies.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSinFyg6Y5Q

    whys the Adam get so much shit man

    Because it deserved it.
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    Dragon's Lair, for what it was worth, looked pretty good for a tape-based ADAM game.

    I wish I could play Dragon's Lair. I have heard that the Blu-Ray version of the game is excellent and much better than any DVD version from the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupin View Post
    Bandai was about to be bought by Sega because of their failure with the Pippin, but then they came out with the Tamagotchi.
    Very true... but they did come out of it

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg2600 View Post
    Konix Multisystem, Halcyon, Nuon, somebody said the M2. I'd barely even qualify those as actual systems. If the system doesn't get released or sold in mass, it's not much more than a prototype.
    I am not sure I totally agree with your point on this. I didn't consider those developmental units (Konix in your list), but if they financially destroyed a company, then I guess they should be considered. Regardless if a unit sold in mass, if it was released at all it should definitely be included in this discussion IMHO (NUON, RDI, M2 from your list - yes, I am aware of the RDI debate).
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