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    you're welcome =)

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    Personally I would go with a newer flat CRT with S-Video and component inputs. Just make sure it isn't 100/120Hz otherwise light guns won't work.

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    I'm confused... there are several 32" SONY WEGA tvs on craigslist in my area, but everyone is talking about the 27", is the 27" the largest non-HD WEGA made?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jordandavid View Post
    I'm confused... there are several 32" SONY WEGA tvs on craigslist in my area, but everyone is talking about the 27", is the 27" the largest non-HD WEGA made?
    No, they made a 32" as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jordandavid View Post
    I'm confused... there are several 32" SONY WEGA tvs on craigslist in my area, but everyone is talking about the 27", is the 27" the largest non-HD WEGA made?
    The 32" is just too dang heavy.

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    I'm just really interested because I'm still gaming on like a 23" magnavox with no A/V or S-Video input, just cable. I'm sick of it, and there are several Sony WEGAs on craigslist in my area

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    So the FD = non-HD?, I'm seriously puzzled

    And I'm assuming the 27" is also recommended because it is the most manageable size/weight while retaining a large crisp picture?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jordandavid View Post
    so does the name "Trinitron" automatically denote the HD version or could it still be either?

    I'm just really interested because I'm still gaming on like a 23" magnavox with no A/V or S-Video input, just cable. I'm sick of it, and there are several Sony WEGAs on craigsllist in my area

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    So the FD = non-HD, I'm seriously puzzled

    And I'm assuming the 27" is also recommended because it is the most manageable size/weight while retaining a large crisp picture?
    I have the 27" because it's not too big and not too small. It's still heavy and awkward to move, but it's much easier than the larger sets. Mine is a Trinitron Wega. Trinitron refers to a technology used by Sony to produce a brighter picture. It doesn't have anything to do with HD. To my knowledge there is no 4:3 tube set that was ever made by Sony that is HD (above 480p that is). I could be wrong, but I've never heard of one. They did, of course, make several widescreen tube sets which I would not recommend using for playing older games.

    In my opinion Sony produced some of the best tube TVs ever made in the late 90's and early 2000s. Mine is pushing 10 years old and has never had a single issue. Magnavox and Panasonic also made really great products around that time, but you're going to be hard-pressed to find one in the size/price range you're looking for.
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    the 32' weighs like 300+ lbs. good luck finding a stand to put it on that wont crumble under the weight. the wega was a trinitron on crack, outstanding image quality. i do believe that sony made decent sized tube HD TVs, but again... the weight was ridiculous. CRTs produce the most accurate colors, and handle varying resolutions much better tan the stretching and pulling of todays LCDs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cynicalhat View Post
    the 32' weighs like 300+ lbs. good luck finding a stand to put it on that wont crumble under the weight. the wega was a trinitron on crack, outstanding image quality. i do believe that sony made decent sized tube HD TVs, but again... the weight was ridiculous. CRTs produce the most accurate colors, and handle varying resolutions much better tan the stretching and pulling of todays LCDs.
    So I got my 27 inch now in the same room as my 32HD both Wegas

    Downside is while the picture quality looks decent on the 27 inch, it's nowhere near as good as the 32HD because of scan lines. Maybe I'm just spoiled because I haven't used a SD CRT in about 8 years, but should the scanlines really be this prominent?

    Oh and I almost dropped it trying to carry it in the house even though another guy was helping me. I take meds for my migraines and one of the side effects is muscle weakness so I'm still learning my limits. I felt totally fine carrying the tv one minute, but when I tried to step up to go inside I collapsed but managed to hold the TV from hitting the floor.

    The nice gentleman who delivered the TV to my house also carried it up the stairs for me when I was unable so I tipped him an extra $15 over what we agreed. Currently I only own more modern systems such as the gamecube and when I tested the gamecube, while the image quality wasn't bad, once again I noticed very prominent scanlines. Is this normal behaviour? It looks better on my hd even upscaled as a result because on the 32HD Wega you can't even see the scanlines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teh_L0ki View Post
    Maybe I'm just spoiled because I haven't used a SD CRT in about 8 years, but should the scanlines really be this prominent?
    Yes, the difference is very noticeable when compared side by side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JLukas View Post
    Yes, the difference is very noticeable when compared side by side.
    I can second that. I have a 46" Plasma sitting right next to the 27" Wega.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JLukas View Post
    Yes, the difference is very noticeable when compared side by side.
    Well that sucks

    I'm not sure if I should keep my gamecube on the old HD or the new SD. I never really noticed any input lag on the old HD anyway, but maybe that's just because I got used to it. Then again I'm very sensitive to input lag on a computer so I don't know.

    However, I hooked up my ps2 to the SD TV and popped in dino crisis (a ps1) game and I don't know if it is just psychological and a placebo or not, but I thought it looked a hell of a lot better. I also noticed that I was able to corner and move my character with much more ease. The first time I played through that game on the HD I was constantly running into walls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teh_L0ki View Post
    Well that sucks

    I'm not sure if I should keep my gamecube on the old HD or the new SD. I never really noticed any input lag on the old HD anyway, but maybe that's just because I got used to it. Then again I'm very sensitive to input lag on a computer so I don't know.

    However, I hooked up my ps2 to the SD TV and popped in dino crisis (a ps1) game and I don't know if it is just psychological and a placebo or not, but I thought it looked a hell of a lot better. I also noticed that I was able to corner and move my character with much more ease. The first time I played through that game on the HD I was constantly running into walls.
    That's good old crappy scaling, you can see it in action while watching a news ticker that's displayed in SD on an HD display. The words come in all slow and wide near the side and get skinny and faster as they approach the center of the screen.

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    I really wish I still had our Trinitron from when I was a little kid. It was massive and heavy as all crock but man did it look gorgeous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninjamohawk View Post
    I really wish I still had our Trinitron from when I was a little kid. It was massive and heavy as all crock but man did it look gorgeous.
    But the scanlines man... dem scanlines

    Then again I've just checked tv on it and modern consoles not any oldschool consoles yet which is what I bought it for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darko View Post
    To my knowledge there is no 4:3 tube set that was ever made by Sony that is HD (above 480p that is). I could be wrong, but I've never heard of one.
    Now I get to blow your mind by informing you of the Sony WEGA KV-40XBR800. It's a 4:3 set, displays at 1080i, and is 40". Unfortunately, a decent percentage of them broke within a few years, the TV didn't sell that well in the first place, it weighs over three hundred pounds, and you'll be shelling out hundreds of dollars for one if you can find it. Still, when it works, it's jaw dropping.

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    My question would now be... what's the difference between the various revisions of the kv-27fs*** I have a kv-27fs100. However on the website in addition to model 100 they list, 17, 13, 200, 120, 210, 12, 16, and 320.

    http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...v-27fs&x=0&y=0

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    a quick scan of the owners manual give these differences:

    the 200's get 2 RF inputs on the rear while the 100's get only 1.
    the 200's get picture in picture

    The TV rear panels illustrated in this manual are for KV-27FS200, KV-32FS200 and KV-36FS200. The
    KV-27FS100, KV-32FS100 and KV-36FS100; do not have the AUX input and TO CONVERTER output jack. (all referring to coax connections) i guess you could be playing 2 games picture in picture if you so chose.

    the manual is here

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    the smaller increments in models could be board revisions or regional differences or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cynicalhat View Post
    a quick scan of the owners manual give these differences:

    the 200's get 2 RF inputs on the rear while the 100's get only 1.
    the 200's get picture in picture

    The TV rear panels illustrated in this manual are for KV-27FS200, KV-32FS200 and KV-36FS200. The
    KV-27FS100, KV-32FS100 and KV-36FS100; do not have the AUX input and TO CONVERTER output jack. (all referring to coax connections) i guess you could be playing 2 games picture in picture if you so chose.

    the manual is here
    Cool thanks for the input.

    Quote Originally Posted by cynicalhat View Post
    the smaller increments in models could be board revisions or regional differences or something.
    I just don't want to suffer buyers remorse because I could have gotten a better version I bought the 27 wega because I heard it was the best and now I'm going to be disappointed if I find out there is a better version. When I purchased the TV I had no idea there were 9 different revisions of the same television.

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    i ave a 100 and it doesn't disappoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cynicalhat View Post
    i ave a 100 and it doesn't disappoint.
    Good to hear

    Only downside with my set is that the front av hookups are kind of touchy. If you plug it in firm and leave it alone it's fine, but if anything even wiggles the cord the sound and video can fluctuate. I don't care though because I'll just use a splitter with the back hookup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoe F View Post
    Now I get to blow your mind by informing you of the Sony WEGA KV-40XBR800. It's a 4:3 set, displays at 1080i, and is 40". Unfortunately, a decent percentage of them broke within a few years, the TV didn't sell that well in the first place, it weighs over three hundred pounds, and you'll be shelling out hundreds of dollars for one if you can find it. Still, when it works, it's jaw dropping.
    Well you learn something new everyday I suppose. Glad to know they DO exist, and honestly, at 40", I'm glad I never bought one! I can't really think of one reason why I would need a 1080i tube set in the first place...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darko View Post
    Well you learn something new everyday I suppose. Glad to know they DO exist, and honestly, at 40", I'm glad I never bought one! I can't really think of one reason why I would need a 1080i tube set in the first place...
    But think of the 3 games or so that support it and how glorious they would look.

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    Edit:

    Just to clarify I should be able to prominently notice the scanlines or is this a case where they are sticking out too much? Also I notice a slight shimmer around the borders of objects, would this be the jaggies I've heard about with CRTs or do I have a clunker on my hands?
    Last edited by teh_L0ki; 03-18-2011 at 11:47 AM.

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