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    Default Sony's New Playstation $250?

    Gamespot has an (rumor) article about the price of $250 (WiFi) & $350 (3G) for the portable system. What do you think?

    http://www.gamespot.com/news/6304190...es%3Btitle%3B2

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    Speculation of a pricetag between $250-$300 with 3G tacking on another $100 has been pretty widespread. So I find it believable and unsurprising.

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    I fail to see any problem in offering consumers price and hardware tiers/options, in fact, it's a modern industry standard.
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    If the standard NGP is $250 the 3DS has already lost. I'll be buying both, but for people looking for both value and how much it has to offer, I'm sure the NGP is going to come out on top this time around. The 3DS doesn't have a $100 edge on the NGP like the DS did versus the PSP, and the NGP has much more to offer than the 3DS. Like I said before. The 3DS is nothing more than a DS with better graphics and 3D that people will use for a whole two hours before they quit using it. The NGP is a more powerful PSP with a multi touch screen, six axis, back touch panel, dual analog, and camera functionality. Doing everything the 3DS can aside from 3D and more.
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    Both 3DS and NGP are potentially cool machines, but I find it hard to believe they'll take back the market they're losing to smart phones and tablets.

    Sony's strategy in pushing portable AAA games in this day and age is particularly interesting...
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    Here's my thoughts in one line:

    NGP2 = Not Going to Pay for a "multimedia that plays games" handheld instead of the other way around part II.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCM View Post
    Both 3DS and NGP are potentially cool machines, but I find it hard to believe they'll take back the market they're losing to smart phones and tablets.
    I still don't really think they're losing market share to multi-function devices like that.

    Anyone who's going to buy a 3DS/NGP is the kind of person who already bought a DS/PSP, sort of by extension.

    Maybe VERY casual customers, but most of those kind of people just didn't own portables in the first place.

    I don't know anyone who was previously a regular portable gamer on a dedicated console who didn't buy the next one because of some multi-function smartphone/tablet alternative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kupomogli View Post
    If the standard NGP is $250 the 3DS has already lost. I'll be buying both, but for people looking for both value and how much it has to offer, I'm sure the NGP is going to come out on top this time around. The 3DS doesn't have a $100 edge on the NGP like the DS did versus the PSP, and the NGP has much more to offer than the 3DS. Like I said before. The 3DS is nothing more than a DS with better graphics and 3D that people will use for a whole two hours before they quit using it. The NGP is a more powerful PSP with a multi touch screen, six axis, back touch panel, dual analog, and camera functionality. Doing everything the 3DS can aside from 3D and more.
    It's funny, I would have thought the same thing with the PSP considering it was light years ahead of the DS in it's capabilities, but just like the Lynx and Game Gear finished distant second to the original Gameboy, I'm sure the same thing will happen here again with the NGP and the 3DS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bojay1997 View Post
    It's funny, I would have thought the same thing with the PSP considering it was light years ahead of the DS in it's capabilities, but just like the Lynx and Game Gear finished distant second to the original Gameboy, I'm sure the same thing will happen here again with the NGP and the 3DS.
    The Gameboy had $60 less on the Game Gear and $100 less on the Lynx. Which was the exact same position with the DS and PSP. Unlike the Lynx and Game Gear, though, the original PSP had both a lot of sales and a lot of third party support. Also. The DS had touch screen support so that gave it the advantage over having different games. Now the 3DS has nothing on the NGP other than the second screen which developers still don't take advantage of and a visual effect that has said to strain peoples eyes when watching for a decent period of time and you have to be in the exact location to see the 3d effect.

    The only reason the NGP might end up failing now, is if by some chance it gets no third party support, the system is hacked early on for piracy to be as easy as it was on the PSP, or fanboy rage doesn't permit people who are interested in games on the system to buy it just because it's Sony and they feel all butt hurt by supporting another company.

    NGP2 = Not Going to Pay for a "multimedia that plays games" handheld instead of the other way around part II.
    You got it backwards. The PSP was first and foremost a gaming device with the secondary option to use media files. The release of the DSi was turning the DS into a gaming/multimedia device, and the 3DS is the exact same thing, now with a 16:9 screen on top and for what purpose? Don't be a hypocrite.
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    It's hard to imagine a scenario where the NGP is suddenly going to dominate over the 3DS in the portable arena.

    I'm sure it's what you're hoping will happen, but these things are sold on more than just the power of the handheld. Nintendo has had over 20 years of domination in this category of gaming and is coming off it's most successful platform yet. If anything, that matters far more than any technical specification.

    While the PSP did quite well compared to past competition (Which I believe was the goal of the PSP), they're not about to suddenly jump out way ahead of Nintendo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kupomogli View Post
    If the standard NGP is $250 the 3DS has already lost. I'll be buying both, but for people looking for both value and how much it has to offer, I'm sure the NGP is going to come out on top this time around. The 3DS doesn't have a $100 edge on the NGP like the DS did versus the PSP, and the NGP has much more to offer than the 3DS. Like I said before. The 3DS is nothing more than a DS with better graphics and 3D that people will use for a whole two hours before they quit using it. The NGP is a more powerful PSP with a multi touch screen, six axis, back touch panel, dual analog, and camera functionality. Doing everything the 3DS can aside from 3D and more.
    So you are saying that if both go up against each other head to head at the same price, the Nintendo handheld will lose? I seriously doubt that. Nintendo rules the handheld market and always will. You have to consider the games on the system as well. The launch titles for the 3DS may not be that impressive, but they have some big ones coming up such as the new Mario Kart, Zelda, and the new Super Mario 3DS game.

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    $250? I can consider picking one up after a few games drop in price...or when it's hacked. *evil grin*

    Nah, but seriously, $250 is not that bad, specially when the 3DS will be priced the same. It will be interesting how it will fair head to head (both consoles), though if the past is any indication, Nintendo will eventually win. Though the PSP2 may be close this time around.

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    *sigh*

    Is nobody else frustrated that we're having yet another total sales = biggest penis discussion over Sony & Nintendo handhelds?

    Isn't this community supposed to be enthusiasts that could give a lesser crap about sales?

    Why does it matter if system X outsells system Y? Why SHOULD it ever matter?

    Aren't we the community that revels in appreciating the best that ANY console/portable has to offer regardless of how much it costs or how much it sells?

    All I know is that I'll be getting a 3DS and an NGP and regardless of which outsells which I'm quite certain that I'll find plenty to enjoy on both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie_Says_Relax View Post
    Is nobody else frustrated that we're having yet another total sales = biggest penis discussion over Sony & Nintendo handhelds?
    Nah, it's a useless fight since mine is bigger.

    Isn't this community supposed to be enthusiasts that could give a lesser crap about sales?
    You are right, though seeing how the internet is (and the people that use it), it's like a futile attempt to express one's own fanboyism, located deep inside the dark depths of a persons heart. Plus, it's fun to see such useless debacles...at least for me, it provides hours of fun observing silly fights online.


    All I know is that I'll be getting a 3DS and an NGP and regardless of which outsells which I'm quite certain that I'll find plenty to enjoy on both.
    QFT. I personally will wait for a price drop or to see each console's library. Plus, my money is all tied up on a damn iPad 2 at the moment. *shakes fist as Apple for ignoring PR*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie_Says_Relax View Post
    All I know is that I'll be getting a 3DS and an NGP and regardless of which outsells which I'm quite certain that I'll find plenty to enjoy on both.
    Same here.

    Anyway...what's with all this 3G talk? Isn't 3G on it's way out? You sure as hell can't play online going that slow. Hmm. Not sure what the extra $100 would be for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie_Says_Relax View Post
    *sigh*

    Is nobody else frustrated that we're having yet another total sales = biggest penis discussion over Sony & Nintendo handhelds?

    Isn't this community supposed to be enthusiasts that could give a lesser crap about sales?

    Why does it matter if system X outsells system Y? Why SHOULD it ever matter?

    Aren't we the community that revels in appreciating the best that ANY console/portable has to offer regardless of how much it costs or how much it sells?

    All I know is that I'll be getting a 3DS and an NGP and regardless of which outsells which I'm quite certain that I'll find plenty to enjoy on both.
    I wish more people thought like this, especially here. I guess it's just too much fun to argue over this stuff.

    As for me, I'm getting a 3DS on day one, since I've always been a big Nintendo fan and I know I'll enjoy the system. I'm sure I'll pick up an NGP eventually, I always get every major system that is released, but probably not right away unless there's some awesome AAA launch title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie_Says_Relax View Post
    *sigh*

    Is nobody else frustrated that we're having yet another total sales = biggest penis discussion over Sony & Nintendo handhelds?

    Isn't this community supposed to be enthusiasts that could give a lesser crap about sales?

    Why does it matter if system X outsells system Y? Why SHOULD it ever matter?
    More sales = more support. It's as simple as that.

    I tried that attitude before. "I'll just play what I like and not even pay attention to sales!" And then I wondered why new Saturn games weren't coming out. Didn't work out so well.

    Same thing sorta happened to me again. Just as I was getting ready to get an N-Gage, there was suddenly hardly any games anywhere, and what was left was clearance. I asked a guy a Gamestop and he was like, oh yeah, they're getting rid of that thing, and no more games are coming out for it. I was like, really? I had no idea. I knew that it never sold as well as GBA or anything, but some pretty cool games had come out, and I thought it would stick around a while longer.

    That's not to say that either of these systems will be like Saturn or N-Gage. But sales DO matter. The sales of DS and PSP have had a direct effect on their libraries.

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