S-video or component?

[Leo_A]

I can see a clear improvement in quality between S-Video and Component on a 480i CRT. In fact, it's a really big leap in visual quality, just like S-Video was to Composite.

If available, use it even if we're not talking about 480p or HD games.

I regularly play several pre NES consoles like my Colecovision with component video after modifications, and you even see a vast improvement on those.

Wish I had them still, but I took pictures of an episode of I Love Lucy on DVD a while back via composite, s-video, and component on a 480i CRT for a classic tv/movie forum I visit and there was a clear jump in quality. It completely got rid of the rainbow effect you often get from patterns on clothing for example, where as it was still somewhat there on the s-video shot.

[Gavica]

check this

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/show...2&postcount=24

[teh_L0ki]

check this

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/show...2&postcount=24

I'll admit I just skimmed large sections of the post because it seemed it largely related to gaming on HD tvs. I have the luxury of having a SD 27 trinitron.

You should add links to the individual sections, like your section on light guns, your section on drm, ect. It's a bit daunting as one large post.

[bend]

There's quite a few people who have converted to scart cables and passed them through a component converter box with great results. Since it's almost impossible to find a TV in North America with a scart input, it's a pretty good solution.

I plan on doing this myself eventually.

[Trebuken]

That's not really true, actually. Although component supports progressive scan obviously, it was around on SDTVs before HD and EDTVs hit the market.

Yup. I should have sais 'was popularized'.

What purpose did it serve on SDTV's?

[allyourblood]

Yup. I should have sais 'was popularized'.

What purpose did it serve on SDTV's?

A sharper and more detailed picture, along with truer colors.

[LaughingMAN.S9]

this seems like as good a place as any to ask so fuck it

anyone have any clue as to when micomsoft is planning on releasing the mini g2 flame meister?

long story but i found out the hardway ps1 & saturn cant output thru component due to their 240p nature

[sheath]

My brother in law's SDTV offered Component inputs for no reason other than compatibility. He's an Electrical Engineer and never saw the point if Composite was available. I tried to evangelize S-Video to him and he didn't care about that either. On his set Composite and Coaxial Cable looked just fine.

[Cornelius]

Yup. I should have sais 'was popularized'.

What purpose did it serve on SDTV's?

Weren't some 4:3 sets were offering 480p through component? I thought there was a brief time when EDTVs were on the market that there were also some 4:3 SDTVs that had 480p. That was certainly an odd couple of years for new TVs.

[cynicalhat]

check this

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/show...2&postcount=24

man your TV is hacking that composite picture. granted it doesnt look as nice as scart but, ill have to take a picture cause that rendering of composite is just downright nasty. the letter N in "rings" is almost illegible.

in my opinion the low res nature of the older systems looks too sterile with component inputs. i bought castlevania 1 on the wii virtual console and it just wasn't the same. too perfect, might as well have downloaded the rom someplace and tossed it on an emulator. my opinion however.

[kedawa]

But... that's exactly what the virtual console is.

[Leo_A]

Weren't some 4:3 sets were offering 480p through component? I thought there was a brief time when EDTVs were on the market that there were also some 4:3 SDTVs that had 480p. That was certainly an odd couple of years for new TVs.

EDTV refers to it being a 480p television set. A SDTV is a 480i television. If it was 480p, it wasn't a SDTV.

[drunkninja]

There's quite a few people who have converted to scart cables and passed them through a component converter box with great results. Since it's almost impossible to find a TV in North America with a scart input, it's a pretty good solution.

I plan on doing this myself eventually.

Yep, I recently picked up a converter from a guy on the Neo Geo forums that converts SCART to component. Used it with my Saturn and Genesis and it looks absolutely fantastic on each. Still waiting on my SNES SCART cable to come in, and then I can directly compare it to the S-Video connection I'm currently using it. It is definitely a major step-up from composite on the Genny though.

[teh_L0ki]

I can see a clear improvement in quality between S-Video and Component on a 480i CRT. In fact, it's a really big leap in visual quality, just like S-Video was to Composite.

If available, use it even if we're not talking about 480p or HD games.

I regularly play several pre NES consoles like my Colecovision with component video after modifications, and you even see a vast improvement on those.

Wish I had them still, but I took pictures of an episode of I Love Lucy on DVD a while back via composite, s-video, and component on a 480i CRT for a classic tv/movie forum I visit and there was a clear jump in quality. It completely got rid of the rainbow effect you often get from patterns on clothing for example, where as it was still somewhat there on the s-video shot.

Thanks, I'll splurg for the component.

It's just significantly more expensive because I want a switch/splitter since the tv only has one set of hookups.

[LaughingMAN.S9]

Yep, I recently picked up a converter from a guy on the Neo Geo forums that converts SCART to component. Used it with my Saturn and Genesis and it looks absolutely fantastic on each. Still waiting on my SNES SCART cable to come in, and then I can directly compare it to the S-Video connection I'm currently using it. It is definitely a major step-up from composite on the Genny though.

What converter is this? it sounds like what im looking for, i was ready to dump money on an xrgb2+ or wait for the newer flame meister but it feels like im going overboard, if your method works, and its cheap, it'd be worth a shot

[Darko]

Thanks, I'll splurg for the component.

It's just significantly more expensive because I want a switch/splitter since the tv only has one set of hookups.

A bit off topic...but yours doesn't have component inputs?

[teh_L0ki]

A bit off topic...but yours doesn't have component inputs?

My tv has 1 set of component hookups but I'll need a switcher because I have more than one thing I want to hookup component and I don't want to constantly replug every time I want to use a different console.

[allyourblood]

My brother in law's SDTV offered Component inputs for no reason other than compatibility. He's an Electrical Engineer and never saw the point if Composite was available. I tried to evangelize S-Video to him and he didn't care about that either. On his set Composite and Coaxial Cable looked just fine.

He must not be concerned with image quality. Some people just don't care at the end of the day. Ignorance is truly bliss. Wish I didn't care -- it'd save me some money.

[kedawa]

At least he's not one of those mouth breathers that buys a giant HDTV, hooks everything up with composite or RF, and then acts like it's the best thing they've ever seen.

[sheath]

Well, I think it was a 26" set and it was set in a living room that needed at least a 46" for optimal viewing. I'm noticing that Composite looks great on my 40" LCD mainly because I sit 6 feet away from it and the set automatically filters out signal noise.