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    http://news.consumerreports.org/elec...ConsumeristRSS

    In congressional testimony this morning, Dr. Gene Spafford of Purdue University said that Sony was using outdated software on its servers—and knew about it months in advance of the recent security breaches that allowed hackers to get private information from over 100 million user accounts.

    According to Spafford, security experts monitoring open Internet forums learned months ago that Sony was using outdated versions of the Apache Web server software, which "was unpatched and had no firewall installed." The issue was "reported in an open forum monitored by Sony employees" two to three months prior to the recent security breaches, said Spafford.

    Spafford made his comments in a hearing convened by the House Subcommittee on Commerce, Manufacturing, and Trade. Sony was invited to participate in the hearing, but declined to attend. In a letter to the committee, Sony said it has added automated software monitoring and enhanced data security and encryption to its systems in the wake of the recent security breaches.

    "If Dr. Spafford's assessment is accurate, it's inexcusable that Sony not only ran obsolete software on servers containing confidential data, but also that the company continued to do so after this information was publicly disclosed," said Jeff Fox, Consumer Reports Technology Editor.
    And this is why you stop bugging the IT guys with your stupid Word problems and let them upgrade the damn servers.

    The IT guys will get fired over it anyway.

    Also: They shut down when there was a breach but they couldn't have known the damage done immediately. I'm actually OK with them on the delay, but not with the lack of maintenance/diligence on their systems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie_Says_Relax View Post
    • Public apology.
    • Internal identification/recognition of technical/security failings.
    • Correction of those failings that addresses both the problem that occurred and the possibility for other similar and/or potentially unrelated security problems.
    • Complimentary products and fraud protection/insurance services offered to all affected.


    Aside from the random people who want "emotional damages" accounted for/addressed, what else would Sony need to do to reasonably rectify this thing?
    You forgot the bullet item for vengeance. I want them to track down whoever's responsible and send them to jail. Not a slap on the wrist, or fine, or warning to stay away like Hotz... massive identity theft needs a massive, headline news penalty to discourage future hackers.

    "PlayStation Hackers sentenced to 100 years" sounds about right...

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    I would think the most important lesson for anyone to take away from this is stay on top of your liabilities. It happened because they were discovered to be a soft target with a giant unguarded honey pot and that discovery was put out public.

    As far as punishment for the intruders? Make them pay for all Sony's costs incurred plus reparations, also for the insurance. If you can tie any fraud to them where individuals' sensitive data was used, let them pay for that plus reparations. Can't pay? Put them on one of those 'shovel ready projects' - pulling double shifts till they balance out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob2600 View Post
    True. Also, what I find weird is $40 home routers have firewalls, but online servers for storing people's personal information don't? How could that have happened? Even the most entry-level IT person knows about firewalls. The whole situation seems very odd.
    Another way to put it is like this: my $500 laptop is more secure than that part of Sony's servers were. I realize that hackers can break thru almost any security if they are that determined(and bored) but atleast make them fight for it.

    Regardless of the amends Sony plans to make to regain favor in the public's eyes, their chances at winning those two(so far) lawsuits just went down about 600% after it was revealed that they did indeed know about security issues with their servers months in advance of the attack. It still might turn out that this wasn't true at all but if it was then Sony will be literally paying for it in court for years to come. And it will also tarnish their brand further when the general public learns about it.
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    So, still working on solving the problem:

    http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/...ration-update/




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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameboy Color View Post
    So, still working on solving the problem:

    http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/...ration-update/
    Yeah. This is why companies should never make promises that include hard deadlines.

    Everybody go ahead and insert joke about the PSN never coming back up.

    They deserve it if it's not back by Sunday.
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    PSN is down?

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    ...because every time you turn on your Playstation, you PRAY it gets online!

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    Also, the firm Sony hired to help investigate the hacking has been confirmed:

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    According to a Sony spokesperson based in Tokyo, the PlayStation Network might not come back online fully until May 31.
    It sucks, but I'd rather them make sure this isn't going to happen again than to be back online in a week only to be hacked again and pulled back down.

    http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/8...d-come-may-31/
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    At this point, I'm expecting the restoration of PSN as an E3 announcement. Not a bad opportunity to rev up the service and market it as PSN 2.0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kupomogli View Post
    It sucks, but I'd rather them make sure this isn't going to happen again than to be back online in a week only to be hacked again and pulled back down.

    http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/8...d-come-may-31/
    I agree that they should make it as secure as they're able to in whatever time that they have prior to bringing everything back online. I also fully expect the waiting game to continue to sour the feelings of those that are frustrated/angry about the whole thing.

    The whole thing just plain sucks. I do hope that they find whoever is responsible.
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    I just thought of something. You know how 3.60 gives Sony to "remotely execute code" on any connected PS3? If Sony's servers were compromised, then in theory, someone could gain control of that system. The result could, again just in theory, be a PS3 botnet capable of DDoSing PSN. That's probably the worst-case scenario and more Skynet than Sony, but I'm wondering if Sony should question that feature.

    I'm looking forward to reading the changelog in the next firmware update, which I'm guessing will be forced out simultaneously with the PSN service restoration.

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    Cloudjacked.


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    http://www.istheplaystationnetworkbackup.info/

    This made me chuckle. Its likely just as informative as Sony's official blog.
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    Semi related, it looks like SquareEnix got hacked as well.

    http://www.ps3trophies.org/news/news...-Attacked.html




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