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    Quote Originally Posted by megasdkirby View Post
    Why? Unauthorized purchases are insured on credit cards. Even if they DID get your number, not only would any illicit purchases made be covered, but they'd just issue you a new card with a new number if it was compromised anyway. Nothing to worry about at all. I don't know why people get SOOO worried their "card number will get stolen".
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxlords View Post
    I don't know why people get SOOO worried their "card number will get stolen".
    Because it depends on the credit card company. Although all may offer the service, others are more lenient than others, which can cause issues in the future.

    And a potentially savvy hacker can easily take the card and your personal information and track you, stealing your identity. Seen it happen here quite a few times.

    Fortunately, all my "cards" listed on PSN are old and useless. Still...
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    Quote Originally Posted by megasdkirby View Post

    Fortunately, all my "cards" listed on PSN are old and useless. Still...
    Lol...Go to The Consumerist and search for "zombie accounts". Closed or deactivated credit card accounts get re-opened all the time. Especially in situations where they were used for "monthly billing"-type charges.

    Consumerist usually has one or two stories a month about people who cancel a credit card only to find out it's been reactivated by an automated program at some company. Usually the people find out months or years later when they get a call from a collections agency. By that point you're screwed since the agency bought the "debt" and couldn't care less if the charges were valid or not.

    Lesson learned...always use pre-paid cards with XBL or PSN.




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    Quote Originally Posted by heybtbm View Post
    Lol...Go to The Consumerist and search for "zombie accounts". Closed or deactivated credit card accounts get re-opened all the time. Especially in situations where they were used for "monthly billing"-type charges.
    My bad. I meant that the cards I have are old or used, temporary cards. The service is offered by some companies, which let you create a "virtual card" with a specific amount, time frame, and location of use. For PSN, I just create a $10 card or less, valid only two months, and ONLY for PSN.

    So even if they obtain the number, they won't able to use it becuase either the card no longer has any cash or it's for PSN and can't be used anywhere else (it will be denied automatically).

    Kinda like a prepaid card of sorts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by megasdkirby View Post

    Kinda like a prepaid card of sorts.
    Smart move IMO.




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    Quote Originally Posted by heybtbm View Post
    Lesson learned...always use pre-paid cards with XBL or PSN.
    Especially considering how cheap you can find those cards, atleast for XBL. Theres bound to be deals for PSN cards as well.
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    it does suck..No Black Ops...oh well..back to Goldeneye, and Frontline..

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    Quote Originally Posted by retroman View Post
    it does suck..No Black Ops...oh well..back to Goldeneye, and Frontline..
    I submit for the suck list:

    -no e-mail warning from Sony, so I spent an hour troubleshooting these mysterious error messages when I could have been playing Vectrex games or something. In the process I erased my saved password so I have that puzzle to look forward to when it does get going again. Not only no e-mail, but nothing in my PS3 message box... so why even have that thing in the first place? So Sony can wish me Happy Valentine's Day? (seriously, that's the only message in there)

    -no Music Unlimited which I was using almost every night. If I'm not reimbursed for these lost days (which you KNOW I won't be) so much for that service.

    -no Netflix on my hd set

    -no Gran Turismo 5. I'm guessing the game probably works but I don't want to miss out on some unforeseen function that is not working while online is down.

    -I was thinking about picking up Mortal Kombat. See some unforeseen function comment above.

    -depending on the yet unrevealed nature of this "intrusion" I will probably be cancelling my credit card which will be fun to explain to the wife.

    -if I feel like donwloading a new game for my Go I'm SOL (that none of the haters have deemed the machine PSPSOL is a minor miracle)

    -WORST OF ALL: so some anonymous (he he) hackers have decided they don't like Sony and decided to disrupt my service. What happens if they decide they don't like my bank, my cable company, Netflix, etc. ? Non-gamers are ignoring this event, and clearly at their own peril. "Well whadya want, it's a free service?" Buffoons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kid Ice View Post
    I submit for the suck list:
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    Agreed.

    I'm not disagreeing with you, but just FYI you can still watch netflix while psn is down. You just hit o (I think) to bypass the error message.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c0ldb33r View Post
    I'm not disagreeing with you, but just FYI you can still watch netflix while psn is down. You just hit o (I think) to bypass the error message.
    Thanks, I was getting kicked into that password thing but it does actually work. Still would be nice to hear that from Sony instead of a random person on the DP forums.

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    My buddies girl called me up today asking what was up with the PSN and I told her what was going on, he usually plays Madden 11 with his brother that lives in another state every night and can't now because these hacks want to be douchebags. The PSN being down doesn't bother me that much, but I feel for the ones that frequently do, since not everyone goes on to pwn the n00bz on BLOPS, some actually go on to play with friends/family that are a great distance away.

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    Besides being a PlayStation Plus subscriber, I have MLB.tv, which I signed up for specifically because I could watch Red Sox games on my TV (especially since the silly-ass blackout rules for Las Vegas don't seem to apply to my current IP). Now, I have to use my computer, which makes multi-tasking practically impossible. I can only imagine the annoyance factor for hockey fans who actually shelled out the insane price for NHL GameCenter-in case you haven't noticed, only a third of the first-round playoff games have been on NBC and/or Versus. I'm of the mind that paying customers definitely deserve some reimbursement for the PSN outage.
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    Check the link they were citing: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/25/psn-update/

    Sony is saying that they don't have a timeframe "at this point in time", which is pretty indefinite.

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    "Indefinitely" does not mean forever. It means quite literally an unknown amount of time.

    If Sony hadn't clearly reported that they are "...working to get them back online quickly." I'd be concerned, but let's try not to react to all the obviously divisive news articles cropping up.

    Yes, this situation undeniably sucks, yes the official information available is sparse, but as far as gaming news goes, it's a slow month. This is an opportunity for sites to get some hits and generate some traffic with fantastical headlines from people frantically looking for answers.

    I have complete faith that Sony is working as hard and as fast as they're able to to resolve this, it would be absurd to think otherwise. In all likelihood It may take a few more weeks, but it's not like they're shutting PSN off until the next console generation and there's no evidence that supports any such allegation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie_Says_Relax View Post
    I have complete faith that Sony is working as hard and as fast as they're able to to resolve this, it would be absurd to think otherwise. In all likelihood It may take a few more weeks, but it's not like they're shutting PSN off until the next console generation and there's no evidence that supports any such allegation.
    I agree, but I feel that most customers won't care and probably abandon PSN services in favor of XBLA. The reason I say this is because of experience Ive dealt with, and continue to deal with, with customers. Some are willing to wait (like many of us here)...others refuse to wait and need their "quick fix".

    I would like to see the effects of this in the long run. My personal prediction is a good chunk of loss regarding user base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by megasdkirby View Post
    I agree, but I feel that most customers won't care and probably abandon PSN services in favor of XBLA. The reason I say this is because of experience Ive dealt with, and continue to deal with, with customers. Some are willing to wait (like many of us here)...others refuse to wait and need their "quick fix".

    I would like to see the effects of this in the long run. My personal prediction is a good chunk of loss regarding user base.
    There's also a large portion of gamers that have BOTH PS3 and 360 (as well as Wii and PC) to choose from where online gaming is concerned. So, getting a "fix" is as simple as playing online games elsewhere without the need/necessity to go out and buy a different system or sign up for a different service.

    These things happen and they've happened elsewhere in some cases for longer periods of times.

    Again, yes, it completely sucks, but this is hardly as sensational as some of the news articles I'm seeing today are making it out to be.

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    You need to take my shifts for a few days. Your opinion will indeed change.
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    Oh yeah...there are a ton of people that would rather buy a 360 than wait an "indefinite" amount of time. I know a fair number of my friends are irritated. Most of em aren't even heavy online players.
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    Seems I posted this in the wrong topic, so it might be old news by now, but:

    I didn't save the link, but there was an article I read earlier that had a statement from a PSN employee that the problem came from hackers figuring out how to put the PS3 into developer mode. Further, the developer server, because it's supposedly owned by Sony, didn't do checks on credit card numbers to make sure they were correct or valid for some such reason, which led to the hackers using fake numbers to pirate crap off the PSN.

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    New update.

    I don't know about you guys, but I don't exactly feel thrilled to hear Sony telling me I should go get a credit check.

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    Sadly, my credit card is a bank card. :/ Thankfully, that card expires in four days.




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    Good news (finally) - PSN will be back up next week in a phased roll-out.

    Free 30 days of Playstation Plus, Qrocity and a few not-yet-announced downloads as compensation.

    http://www.ripten.com/2011/05/01/psn...back-benefits/

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    Here is the full, official statement from Sony following their press conference in Japan addressing this issue yesterday.

    http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/...ble-this-week/

    Relevant bullet points/timeline:

    • Illegal intrustion occurred
    • Sony shut down access to PSN network
    • Multiple security firms engaged to perform full audits of their entire database and servers
    • No compromise of encrypted credit card data found
    • Sony completed a migration of all sensitive data to new, more secure servers at a different location
    • Additional security was added to existing security on their networks including more data defenders, more encryption, more firewalls and the ability to more closely monitor intrusions.
    • Ongoing investigations with the intent to identify and prosecute those responsible will continue.
    • When the network is reactivated next week, as an added security measure, access will not be granted to users until they change their password.
    • All subscription based services will get a credit on their time.
    • ALL PSN members get 30 free days of PLUS
    • PSN PLUS, QRIOSITY members get 30 free days of service
    • Yet to be determined free content will be provided, likely differing per region
    • Sony will assist consumers who want to enroll in an identity protection service further details to be available regionally on a local level


    So, there we go.

    A very inconvenient downtime with what sounds to be an ultimately beneficial resolution for all. Sony gets better security up and running and users get some reasonable reparations for time lost.
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