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    I only buy a new system when theres a game on it that I just have to have, anounce a new metroidvania or something even remotely decent and i'm there, but nintendo hasn't released anything since the original ds that i've ever wanted to buy a system for. i ended up with a wii gamecube virtual boy but all 3 were flaming turds, so far this looks like it will be in the same box as the rest of em.

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    I still haven't seen a demo unit... And I've been looking. There's a lot wrong with this launch.


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    I hope the 3DS doesn't go the way of Virtual Boy cause I am a big Nintendo fan, but it wouldn't surprise me if it did. What I'm going to do is keep an eye on the price and if it suddenly drops a whole bunch all at once (down to $150 say), then I'll know that they're probably dropping it and trying to unload as many as possible. That's the time to buy, before the Ebay jerks drive the price out of sight.

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    There is no way this is going the way of the Virtual Boy. Selling 3.6 million units instead of 4 million, or whatever the numbers are, is hardly an indication that this is failing.

    Sales are slightly softer than expected. Nothing more, nothing less. It isn't a sign that this hasn't taken off or a sign that the system is going to die a quick death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo_A View Post
    There is no way this is going the way of the Virtual Boy. Selling 3.6 million units instead of 4 million, or whatever the numbers are, is hardly an indication that this is failing.

    Sales are slightly softer than expected. Nothing more, nothing less. It isn't a sign that this hasn't taken off or a sign that the system is going to die a quick death.
    Except 3.6 is a shipped number and 4 is an expected sales number. Actual sales are obviously nowhere close to 3.6 million because every store has a ridiculous amount of overstock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonebone View Post
    Except 3.6 is a shipped number and 4 is an expected sales number. Actual sales are obviously nowhere close to 3.6 million because every store has a ridiculous amount of overstock.
    Nope

    According to the news reports I just read (Included the link below), Nintendo expected to sell 4 million units and reported just selling 3.61 million units. Didn't see them saying 3.61 million units shipped anywhere.

    Furthermore, if it had been 3.61 million units shipped, we'd probably be seeing the number intepreted as Nintendo not being able to manufacture them as quickly as they had anticipated to explain the 400,000 difference. Yet, they're not spinning it that way.

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    Price point for both games and system and a lack of must-have games are the two reasons for the slow-down, not a lack of marketing.
    Clearly Nintendo doesn't think so.

    http://www.gamespot.com/news/6310441...es%3Btitle%3B6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Icarus Moonsight View Post
    I still haven't seen a demo unit... And I've been looking.
    Same with me. I actually found one in a Best Buy but there was a kid playing it for 20 minutes so I left. I rarely ever go to Best Buy so I haven't bothered going back just for this. I haven't seen a display unit in any EB Games or any Wal-Mart, which is kind of surprising to me. Unless I come across one and get blown away by it I won't bother, I'm not that desperate to spend hundreds of dollars on something I don't really need.

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    i have a 3DS also, and have played it maybe a total of 4 hours...i have Pilot Wings and Street Fighter 4....both which are not bad games.

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    As others have said, the launch line up was quite possibly the worse of the last 10 years or so. Add that to the $250 price tag and you get alot less sales then they are use to. I'm interested to see how well it sells this holiday season though once the real games start rolling in.
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    Its funny this day and age 3.6 million consoles in a month is considered a bad thing.

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    This thing is gonna sell a TON around xmas time. All the little kids are going to want one.
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    They need to do a MUCH better job advertising the thing. I have two boys, aged 10 and 8. They have no clue to the existence of the 3DS, and haven't heard about it from anybody at school. The only mention they have ever heard regarding the 3DS was me mentioning it to them, and they didn't have the slightest clue.

    That tells you something...

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    They should have launched it in November so they could spend more time building hype and advertising and having more games out for launch such as Zelda, Starfox and Kid Icarus. Launching in Spring just seems...weird...
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    90% sales drop in their second week... that says a lot.
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    My main gripe is that, after releasing the awesome DsiXL, why in the world would they release a new console with smaller screens, or similar to that of the original Dsi? Sure, the top screen is bigger, but the touch screen at the bottom is roughly the same size of that of the Dsi.

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    While I'm sure that the 3DS will find its groove once Nintendo releases something with Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Metroid or Star Fox in the title, what I find interesting is that the gaming community seems to forget that history has recently and repeatedly shown that being on the top of the pile where sales are concerned does not automatically guarantee repeated/identical success out of the gate with your next product.

    Not that the 3DS is going to cause any sudden fall from grace for Nintendo where their position is concerned ... but, just BECAUSE the DS brand/family has dominated the market - there are no guarantees that the next thing will repeat that success.

    The actual release window of the 3DS along with the lack of franchise software almost seems to be a calculated slow-play by Nintendo. They typically seem to revel in the showiness of having product sold-out-for-months-and-months, but this seems to be almost purposely readily available.

    Almost all of the reasons listed in this thread make sense - price point, lack of AAA franchise titles, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie_Says_Relax View Post
    Not that the 3DS is going to cause any sudden fall from grace for Nintendo where their position is concerned ... but, just BECAUSE the DS brand/family has dominated the market - there are no guarantees that the next thing will repeat that success.
    They basically created this market and have dominated it for over 20 years.

    It's difficult to imagine a scenario where suddenly after over two decades that they're not the dominant force in handheld gaming. Past history makes it a pretty safe bet to predict that they're going to lead this handheld generation as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo_A View Post
    They basically created this market and have dominated it for over 20 years.

    It's difficult to imagine a scenario where suddenly after over two decades that they're not the dominant force in handheld gaming. Past history makes it a pretty safe bet to predict that they're going to lead this handheld generation as well.
    They monopolized the market in the US for over 10 years, but legitimate competition has since entered that market in the form of Sony and Apple. And unlike past competition, they've subsisted and/or flourished instead of folding. Competition like that may strain Nintendo's dominance or make it more challenging to maintain.

    While there is a large portion of the core gaming community that continues to deny the legitimacy of iOS devices being "competition" on any level, billions in sales and DEEP mainstream cultural permeation of iOS gaming may have long-term effects on Nintendo holding 100% of the market share generation-over-generation. Will they still lead for the immediate future? Most likely. Will they ever monopolize it again? I sincerely doubt it.
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    They probably flounced the 3DS out hasty like to make all the hype room available for the Wii successor. They need that competitive edge on the console front and also needed to get the new handheld out of it's way and limelight.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie_Says_Relax View Post
    They monopolized the market in the US for over 10 years.
    Again, it's over 20 years. They've been the dominant force in handheld gaming since basically helping create the market well over two decades ago (Discounting some small niche devices that preceded their GameBoy line, LCD handhelds, etc.).

    I agree that they have the most serious competition in handheld gaming that they've ever had with Sony (What, 60 million or so PSP's sold with a successor on the way?), growth in cellphone gaming, Apple's gaming entry, etc. I have no doubt we're not going see the 3DS dominate to the extent their past devices have.

    But your post made it sound like we see regular shifts in power in this market. That simply hasn't been the case. History tells us that Nintendo dominates handheld gaming, it doesn't tell us that we've been "repeatedly shown that being on the top of the pile where sales are concerned does not automatically guarantee repeated/identical success out of the gate with your next product."

    History tells us Nintendo is going to outsell their direct competition this generation just like they've been doing since 1989.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo_A View Post
    Again, it's over 20 years. They've been the dominant force in handheld gaming since basically helping create the market well over two decades ago (Discounting some small niche devices that preceded their GameBoy line, LCD handhelds, etc.).

    I agree that they have the most serious competition in handheld gaming that they've ever had with Sony (What, 60 million or so PSP's sold with a successor on the way?), growth in cellphone gaming, Apple's gaming entry, etc. I have no doubt we're not going see the 3DS dominate to the extent their past devices have.

    But your post made it sound like we see regular shifts in power in this market. That simply hasn't been the case. History tells us that Nintendo dominates handheld gaming, it doesn't tell us that we've been "repeatedly shown that being on the top of the pile where sales are concerned does not automatically guarantee repeated/identical success out of the gate with your next product."

    History tells us Nintendo is going to outsell their direct competition this generation just like they've been doing since 1989.
    To clarify, I was referring to the dynamic shifts in the console market.

    Both Nintendo and Sony have lost the 1st place sales position in recent generations (including the current), and in both cases there seemed to be an expectation that brand leadership laid sufficient groundwork for repeat success where it actually did not in the marketplace.

    Yes, Nintendo has been in the portable market for 20+ years, and it is absolutely correct that Nintendo has never shifted from 1st place in sales where portable gaming is concerned.

    What I was alluding to with the 10 year period (slightly less actually, maybe 7-8 years) was the noteworthy fact that for a period they monopolized that market with no competition (as in no other choice for consumers in portable game systems that were available in the market/at retail for longer than a year if that).

    With arguably the biggest competition, the Game Gear's production ending in 1997 and the PSP not entering the market until 2005. Nintendo dominated that portion of the market uncontested.
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    Its not a fair comparison to compare the PS2 launch to the 3DS. Ps2 at release was a very good DvD player at the time, and its cost was only a little higher than most DvD players at the time to. So as a gamer without a DvD player, buying one was a no brainer. Sony hoped the same trend would effect the PS3 with Blue-ray but...Yea that didnt work out to well.

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    Honestly, the feature I use the most on my 3DS is the pedometer. It's gotten me out walking all over Milwaukee. I wish they wouldn't limit the play coins to 10 a day, that's a buzzkill. But although I am really happy with the system, this is a definite lull in excitement right now. I was expecting a system update by now as well. Or SOMETHING on spot pass or downloadable content. Waiting for this system to unlock its features and true potential is what's really killing me. I want my Netflix now, damnit.

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    Everyone I've said this to so far hasn't believed me but I'm quite sure the sales will pick up once Zelda comes out in June.

    The launch titles seemed mostly underwhelming. We had Bust-A-Move Universe, which is the same as the other games (not a bad thing really), Pilotwings Resort which is cute but lacking the fun factor of the other two Pilotwings games, Rayman DS which is another port of Rayman 2, SSFIV which is a shrunken-down port of SSFIV, and so on and so forth.

    To make matters worse the only new game since the launch here was a Tom Clancy game, wasn't it? I mean, I like Tom Clancy games as much as the next guy but c'mon.

    It'll all get better once Zelda drops.

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